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49 BU --66 Wyoming post-game

I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised with the way this team has played this year, we are basically a four man team, with none of the newcomers stepping in right away. (Not blaming anyone, it is hard for a freshman to contribute a lot his first year). This is a rebuilding year. The reason Les is gone is that he recruited a roster of mostly athletes, not shooters (With the exception of Dyricus and TB). Athletes are great but if they can't put the ball in the basket consistently the team is not going to win many games. It is going to be a long season but I think we will see improvement next year and the year after.

Year three is when I expect to see W/L results, when most of the roster is GF's guys. I'll give him that much. Until then, I'd settle for some improvement from game to game. Can anyone tell me they're seeing much of that?
 
Year three is when I expect to see W/L results, when most of the roster is GF's guys. I'll give him that much. Until then, I'd settle for some improvement from game to game. Can anyone tell me they're seeing much of that?

I can agree with this. I said it last year, I was worried about no shooters being on this year's team more than no Pg or big men depth. Until we fill those 3 needs it is going to be a while. We need a few shooters, hopefully with the two recruits and NW, 2 of the 3 will be better next year. We still desperately need a few shooters to be competitive in college basketball, we are a couple of years away. But like you, I would also like to see us improving, and at least trying different things and players in a rebuilding year. Haven't seen much of an exciting offense yet either, but I like GF and trust in time he will get the job done when he has a chance to build.
 
Year three is when I expect to see W/L results, when most of the roster is GF's guys. I'll give him that much. Until then, I'd settle for some improvement from game to game. Can anyone tell me they're seeing much of that?

Not seeing this game, but listening to Dave the entire game, IMO, this game was the worst game that I have seen or heard a Bradley team play in a long time. Hope they put it behind them and give the home crowd a win Tuesday.
 
For what it's worth, Geno's players didn't score under 50 his last 2 seasons at Kent State. They scored a 51 and 52 but rest were mostly above 65.

He seems to know where to find shooters, we'll see what he can bring in the next couple years. Tyshonn Pickett and Bell looks like a good start. Will need more than that with what we lose this season though.

Jason
 
I agree. I can accept losing games, but not with this type of shooting. I thought our players could shoot in high school. Now they all of the sudden forgot how to do this in college, even adjusting for tougher competition? I don't get it. Plus I would rather lose games 66-60 than 65-49 any day! The more competitive we stay, at least we win some close games even if we lose some heartbreakers along the way. That would at least show people we are closer to turning the corner.

You hit exactly what I am thinking on the head, how can you all of a sudden not be able to shoot the ball, same size ball, baskets same height and yes we are missing wide open shots, has nothing to do with opposing teams defense as they are giving us open shots, decent basketball players should be able to make shots period, coaching staff has good game plans and it is up to the players to start shooting the ball better and quit turning it over so much if you expect to win games
 
I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised with the way this team has played this year, we are basically a four man team, with none of the newcomers stepping in right away. (Not blaming anyone, it is hard for a freshman to contribute a lot his first year). This is a rebuilding year. The reason Les is gone is that he recruited a roster of mostly athletes, not shooters (With the exception of Dyricus and TB). Athletes are great but if they can't put the ball in the basket consistently the team is not going to win many games. It is going to be a long season but I think we will see improvement next year and the year after.


That is exactly correct. I don't know how people thought this team was going to win a lot of games. The overall skill is just not there.

This year was never about W's and L's to me. It's all about change, recruiting, building, etc.

I think we will some games, but it's not going to be easy.
 
I agree. I can accept losing games, but not with this type of shooting. I thought our players could shoot in high school. Now they all of the sudden forgot how to do this in college, even adjusting for tougher competition? I don't get it. Plus I would rather lose games 66-60 than 65-49 any day! The more competitive we stay, at least we win some close games even if we lose some heartbreakers along the way. That would at least show people we are closer to turning the corner.

I don't think any of these guys were shooters. Don't confuse the difference between being a shooter and a scorer.
 
It's too bad about BU's shooting woes.

I know someone making 40% of his 3's and 53% overall while leading his team to first place in one of the nation's top 3 conferences. He knows how to dish out assists too.

I see the spinmasters are out in full force though... Now it was the recruiting all along, wonder what it will be next game.
 
remember we're picked 10th - so nobody's expecting much... ;)

but still -- good teams accomplish several things we are just not getting done..

-they can shoot -- and actually note that this team IS SHOOTING 50% inside the arc, but only about 20% beyond it
...so maybe we're talking a little bit of bad shot selection here...

-they handle the ball well and limit turnovers - yet we've consistently had more turnovers than our opponents, and last night we had 22 compared to their 12..many just bad TO's & unforced ones

-they distribute the ball and find the open guy - the lack of assists on this team is astounding - only THREE assists all night last night -

-and the bread and butter of every college basketball team is to get the ball in the paint and try to either get layups or make them foul you..
and we even see that it can work since Jordan Prosser had 14/8, was 6-8 from the floor and went to the line a couple times.
BUT -- we just don't seek to get the ball there enough - how many times does our point guard just launch a shot 5 seconds into the shot clock without making a single pass?

-Last couple thoughts...is there any way for a couple players to put some Stickum on their hands - a couple guys simply drop the ball out of bounds even when unguarded more than anyone since Xanthus Houston!

And how 'bout we simply STOP forcing up threes when we know we're not making them?? Gotta feed the low post...it's not like Wyoming had a couple of Shaq's and Kareem's there!!
 
remember we're picked 10th - so nobody's expecting much... ;)

but still -- good teams accomplish several things we are just not getting done..

-they can shoot -- and actually note that this team IS SHOOTING 50% inside the arc, but only about 20% beyond it
...so maybe we're talking a little bit of bad shot selection here...

-they handle the ball well and limit turnovers - yet we've consistently had more turnovers than our opponents, and last night we had 22 compared to their 12..many just bad TO's & unforced ones

-they distribute the ball and find the open guy - the lack of assists on this team is astounding - only THREE assists all night last night -

-and the bread and butter of every college basketball team is to get the ball in the paint and try to either get layups or make them foul you..
and we even see that it can work since Jordan Prosser had 14/8, was 6-8 from the floor and went to the line a couple times.
BUT -- we just don't seek to get the ball there enough - how many times does our point guard just launch a shot 5 seconds into the shot clock without making a single pass?

-Last couple thoughts...is there any way for a couple players to put some Stickum on their hands - a couple guys simply drop the ball out of bounds even when unguarded more than anyone since Xanthus Houston!

And how 'bout we simply STOP forcing up threes when we know we're not making them?? Gotta feed the low post...it's not like Wyoming had a couple of Shaq's and Kareem's there!!

All this T and for some unknown reason to me, we have not faced a lot of zone defense, and I think that this team is very susceptible to a team that could throw a full court press at us.
 
I don't think any of these guys were shooters. Don't confuse the difference between being a shooter and a scorer.

Exactly correct, these guys could score in high school by driving and getting mostly layups, how do you not see that when you are out evaluating players, then we have 2 players that appear to be able to shoot from outside but are too slow for d-1 teams .
I feel bad for the coaches that are stuck trying to win with this mess and us fans that have went thru watching mediocre play now for quite awhile, we cleaned house with the coaching staff and it is time to do it with the players.
 
Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. If not for the fallout from the coaching change we would be 6-1,imo or at worst 5-2. Everything this team lacks is in Champaogn.
 
Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. If not for the fallout from the coaching change we would be 6-1,imo or at worst 5-2. Everything this team lacks is in Champaogn.

And then next year we would be 12-20 again.

This change was not for one year.

I, for one, will stand by the current coaching staff and players.

We can't control or worry about players who gave up on Bradley!
 
That is exactly correct. I don't know how people thought this team was going to win a lot of games. The overall skill is just not there.

This year was never about W's and L's to me. It's all about change, recruiting, building, etc.

I think we will some games, but it's not going to be easy.

Just looking for some improvement from game to game. Hard to see it after last night!
 
And then next year we would be 12-20 again.

This change was not for one year.

I, for one, will stand by the current coaching staff and players.

We can't control or worry about players who gave up on Bradley!

Agreed. As great as it would be to have Sammy, we would be in this boat the year after. It was time, hopefully Geno and his staff put together some great teams in the future, and Bradley gets back to the spotlight. We just need to have patience. It will not happen this year, and probably not next year.
 
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