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A Vote for Sydney Johnson

Missouri Brave

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I'd really like for this guy to be our next head coach and I've got to think that Dr. Cross wants to talk to him.

1. A proven winner. 47 wins and two NCAA tournaments over the past two seasons. Plus a conference title and two second place finishes the last three years.

2. A 19-win improvement over a three-year period.

3. His players graduate.

4. His teams are fundamentally sound, something which our teams have lacked for years.

5. His teams play terrific, terrific defense. Terrific.

6. He's been an assistant at Georgetown and doubtless has tons of great contacts.

7. An African-American coach wouldn't hurt in relating to players.

8. My lone question: would he consider Bradley? Princeton is his alma mater.

What's not to like? Let's go get this guy and get him on the recruiting trail.*

*This note is not any sort of knock on JL. This is a pro-Sydney post!
 
I'll copy my comment from another thread.

Can Sydney just swing through Peoria on his way back, or is someone going to meet him outside the stadium for his interview?
 
I almost started a Sydney thread, but got busy at work. I like him as a coach, but have two concerns.

1. Can he adapt a style of play to the MVC. I think that he is a smart coach so I think he can adapt.

2. Recruiting-- my main concern with Sydney... I think if we were to hire Sydney, then it would be imperative to hire an assistant with major midwest recruiting ties. jmho
 
I think he's my personal favorite candidate.

I still have some reservations about running the Princeton offense, but his team looks good with the ball, so I'm willing to overlook that.
 
He is worthy of a look and interview. I pretty much agree on what Missouri Brave wrote up. Also The Princeton offense was designed to take advantage of playing like a team, not exposing weaknesses, utilizing sound fundamentals with good players but not needing great players to be successful.
 
I almost started a Sydney thread, but got busy at work. I like him as a coach, but have two concerns.

1. Can he adapt a style of play to the MVC. I think that he is a smart coach so I think he can adapt.

2. Recruiting-- my main concern with Sydney... I think if we were to hire Sydney, then it would be imperative to hire an assistant with major midwest recruiting ties. jmho
2 main concerns which are huge, hiring a recruiter is not easy for someone that is not from this area, the Ivy League is so much different and hard to compare to the Valley, he is a good coach but I have to pass because of where he comes from in that he is from out east with 0 mid-west ties.
 
2 main concerns which are huge, hiring a recruiter is not easy for someone that is not from this area, the Ivy League is so much different and hard to compare to the Valley, he is a good coach but I have to pass because of where he comes from in that he is from out east with 0 mid-west ties.

Agree.. We would IMO have to hire either a Chicago area HS coach, or some type of midwest AAU coach for an assistant.
 
The guy just took Kentucky to the wire with players who aren't offered athletic scholarships. I'm comfortable with his recruiting and assume the hiring of an assistant with suitable midwest is an easy step that will take care of his lack of local network. In case no one noticed, one such guy is our transitional head coach.
 
The guy just took Kentucky to the wire with players who aren't offered athletic scholarships. I'm comfortable with his recruiting and assume the hiring of an assistant with suitable midwest is an easy step that will take care of his lack of local network. In case no one noticed, one such guy is our transitional head coach.

Johnson would be in my top 3 for coaches to interview. That being said, one game does not make a coach. --and I have seen Princeton 3 times this year. As for an assistant, I want someone with more recruiting connections than anyone currently on the staff to help him out if Johnson gets the job.
 
Willie Scott can connect with the Midwesterners/Chicago crew for the short term. I'm not saying hire the guy, but he intrigues me and is worth a strong look. I'd give him more credence that Fife.
 
Didn't Johnson "cut his teeth" as a Georgetown assistant? I think he'd make a good hire, and I'd love to see Willie Scott repaid for his loyalty to BU and be made an assistant. Willie could definitely recruit Chicago for us.
 
JL did a tremendous job - a TREMENDOUS job - of recruiting highly athletic players, some of whom (have) turned into solid players, and some of whom have not. Sydney Johnson does not have the benefit of having those type of athletes at Princeton. Imagine what he could do with BU type of athletes. I'm very intrigued.

PS: also like the Willie Scott suggestion made by another poster. An interesting thought.
 
Agree.. We would IMO have to hire either a Chicago area HS coach, or some type of midwest AAU coach for an assistant.

I think Sydney Johnson, or any other head coaching hire from the East, would do well to keep Willi Scott on staff for this reason. Willi coached at Malcolm X, so he has renewed his recruiting contacts in Chicago ... and Willi is a Brave so he can communicte the tradition of the program to prospective recruits.
 
Ummmm E?

Guys SidJohn has
2 Illinois Players (From Chicago area)
2 Wisconsin Players
1 guy from Tennessee

He has gotten some guys already from the midwest. I agree he needs some midwest people, but Im not too concerned about that.

Unfortunately I don't think he would view it as a step up...

And we really need to figure out if it is a step up....
 
Ummmm E?

Guys SidJohn has
2 Illinois Players (From Chicago area)
2 Wisconsin Players
1 guy from Tennessee

He has gotten some guys already from the midwest. I agree he needs some midwest people, but Im not too concerned about that.

Unfortunately I don't think he would view it as a step up...

And we really need to figure out if it is a step up....

Agree about recruiting, but I think almost anyone would consider Bradley a tremendous step up from Princeton. Question is only if he's waiting for a bigger offer.. or if he's the rare guy who just wants it for his alma mater. But if he's trying to get along on his way up, Bradley's a big step up from any Ivy League program.
 
Was very impressed with what I saw from him but if you watch the press conference after the game he seems like he loves being at Princeton. I think he'd be a great hire but I just dont see him leaving.
 
I think Johnson should be scoped out if he is interested in the job...do we know he actually does have any interest???

Here's where I think we have to be careful....Ivy League coaches have not always moved on and been successful....and Johnson has not yet showed sustained degree of success...remember James Jones?

The last Princeton coach was hired at Denver in 2007 and has floundered there way under .500 at a low major.

And -- back to Jones...the last time we hired, we also considered an Ivy League coach as one of the final four in the hiring process.
He also looked good at the time -- but he stayed at Yale and done absolutely mediocre since them -- 104-120 and never more than middle of the pack in the IVY League.

Then there's the President's brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who had Sydney-Johnson-like success at Brown and was hired at Oregon State and has done terribly there so far -- with his offense scoring in the 30's & 40's so often and entrenching themselves at the bottom of the Pac-10 so solidly that Beaver fans are already clammoring to get rid of Craig.

Cornell's coach was a hot topic a year ago -- but he stayed at Cornell - and nobody's mentioning his name this year...they're terrible...

Bill Carmody also moved on from Princeton and despite modest success at Northwestern - he's never made the NCAA and the Northwestern fans are not universally happy..

I know some Ivy League coaches have moved on and been successful -- but actually I can only find two such examples
 
I think Johnson should be scoped out if he is interested in the job...do we know he actually does have any interest???

Here's where I think we have to be careful....Ivy League coaches have not always moved on and been successful....and Johnson has not yet showed sustained degree of success...remember James Jones?

The last Princeton coach was hired at Denver in 2007 and has floundered there way under .500 at a low major.

And -- back to Jones...the last time we hired, we also considered an Ivy League coach as one of the final four in the hiring process.
He also looked good at the time -- but he stayed at Yale and done absolutely mediocre since them -- 104-120 and never more than middle of the pack in the IVY League.

Then there's the President's brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who had Sydney-Johnson-like success at Brown and was hired at Oregon State and has done terribly there so far -- with his offense scoring in the 30's & 40's so often and entrenching themselves at the bottom of the Pac-10 so solidly that Beaver fans are already clammoring to get rid of Craig.

Cornell's coach was a hot topic a year ago -- but he stayed at Cornell - and nobody's mentioning his name this year...they're terrible...

Bill Carmody also moved on from Princeton and despite modest success at Northwestern - he's never made the NCAA and the Northwestern fans are not universally happy..

I know some Ivy League coaches have moved on and been successful -- but actually I can only find two such examples

Tornado, some excellent, excellent points though I think the situation with Johnson and Bradley would be VERY different, primarily because Bradley is a true basketball school with engaged alumni, terrific facilities and a rich tradition. Denver and Northwestern have never even been to the NCAA tournament and Oregon State has little tradition to speak of, outside of nice runs with Ralph Miller coaching and (later) with Gary Payton playing.

Bottom line, and I think this is the rare thing that ALL of us on this board can agree upon: Bradley provides a much better base for success than all of those other schools. It is also a completely different animal than Princeton and the Ivy League.

My wife and I were living in Princeton in 2004 when they won the Ivy League, went 20-8 with one loss in the league. Their team was excellent that year and you didn't hear a peep about that team anywhere in town. The students aren't huge sports fans and many of the local residents support teams from nearby Philly or New York. 180 degrees from Peoria, where BU is THE game in town.

A few more points:

1. I think the tie with Dr. Cross cannot be ignored. Let's hope he can sell Sydney on BU being the excellent opportunity that it is. It certainly doesn't hurt that Cross came here from Princeton as well.

2. I saw the emotional press conference with Sydney crying yesterday. Maybe he was crying because he knows there are other opportunities on the horizon and that yesterday may have been his last game for the Tigers.

3. The guy was an assistant at Georgetown before returning to Princeton. I don't think you coach in the Big East unless you're an ambitious guy who wants big things. And, though John Thompson III was an exception (an his family ties certainly played a role), you are very rarely going to make a move from the Ivy League to an elite basketball school. BU is a natural next step for Sydney.

4. I'm not sure if he'd be in Peoria forever, but I think Sydney would win while he was here, and win big.

Let's go get this guy and Restore the Roar!
 
Here is a pretty good, detailed bio on Sydney Johnson-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Johnson

After his career as a player at Priceton, he played 7 years professionally in Europe. He was only at Georgetown for 3 seasons as an assistant before he was hired as head coach at Princeton.

Personally, I do not think he will be a serious candidate for the Bradley job.
 
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