No question it is going to cost the university to payoff Ford, if he is terminated. But as I said, it will be with deferred payouts, and it won't cause the university to shut down or the sky to fall. We will all survive.
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No question it is going to cost the university to payoff Ford, if he is terminated. But as I said, it will be with deferred payouts, and it won't cause the university to shut down or the sky to fall. We will all survive.
LongTimeFan
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Somebody help me. Has anyone seen a link that said Reynolds did not select or approve of Howard? I don't remember seeing anything. This assumes that Reynolds was being offered the AD job.
Maybe this is off topic. If so I apologize. It reminds me so much about the Aesop fable of the fox and the grapes. Some Bradley fans are saying Howard is a poor recruiter. He has been hired by three of the better college coaches. In every job he had been the one to initiate a position at a new college. I wonder what these fans know that the three college coaches didn't.
Maybe this is off topic. If so I apologize. It reminds me so much about the Aesop fable of the fox and the grapes. Some Bradley fans are saying Howard is a poor recruiter. He has been hired by three of the better college coaches. In every job he had been the one to initiate a position at a new college. I wonder what these fans know that the three college coaches didn't.
I've not read anything that Reynolds has written regarding Howard or Reynolds being employed by BU in the future. He is too smart to write anything like that, especially when it could jeopardize the above mentioned people's current jobs and future jobs. That could lead to lawsuits. Some people may not like Reynolds, but for him to write articles about the future employment of Reynolds and Howard before there has been an official announcement regarding the termination of the people holding their assumed positions at BU, would be unprofessional and very damaging to BU and all parties involved.
Howard has been one of the most sought after assistant coaches in the country. His recent arrest in Peoria may have hampered that for a while, but I believe he is young enough to overcome it.
wily coyote
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Vent you seem to have your head on straight regarding this whole mess that took place because someone MAY he leaked a sensitive firing and than some people made a bad decision by posting it on the boards without notification from BU. The majority of people that post on this board seems to dislike the PJ Star but as far as I'm concerned DR and KW have handled this situation like professionals as you've posted. I'm not saying there may not be firings in the future but lets let the media do it's job. That's when i'll believe it. Good post Vent.
I think the posting of a reported firing was pre-mature and in retrospect in bad taste (but I was interested and admittedly welcomed the news and was actively discussing it). But to say DR and KW have handled this situation professionally is a JOKE. DR tweeting thinly-veiled passive-aggressive attacks at this board when the PJ-Star sponsored board still had open reference to the same info?? KW incorrectly reporting on an event that happened half a year ago with a clear agenda but not mentioning it, on something he normally would never report, on THE FRONT PAGE, then a couple days later he quietly buried the reporting of a retraction/correction??
No one has been perfect, but how the heck is a fan run message board being held to a higher standard than professional journalists? I understand that DR and KW are ultimately good people, but their actions have been anything but forthright and are clearly motivated. There have been suspicions and accusations emanating from this board for some time, so this may just seem like more of the same. But to me, it has reached a point where the sports section of the newspaper can no longer be defended as being objective. They clearly have a prerogative and are working to advance that perspective (much like all on here are doing). The difference however, is that fans don't hide behind a veil 'objectivity' and 'protecting the public interest' that is only applied when they deem convenient. The PJStar team is no better than cable 'news' shows who clearly represent a particular party, and thusly have/should have lost respect from those who do see the charade for what it is.
Any time a minor misdemeanor is reported to protect the university, but not a near decade of mismanagement, overspending, and rampant disregard for alum and fan wishes, I refuse to accept that someone is being professional.
I wonder if they will quit winning awards now for their accomplishments because of all this.
What awards? I have seen a couple local, minor recognitions, but let me know the last time they won a recognizable achievement...
tornado
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First, let me say that I think overall the local media covers things fairly well, and I think the sports reporting is generally fair & good.
But I think the reporting when it comes to Bradley is so clearly different in my judgement, we simply point out their errors & biases - what's wrong with that?
But - the awards the media wins are awards the media hands out to themselves on a regular basis calling themselves "excellent"...
Do the local car dealers hand out awards to themselves or local medical profession hand out Oscars to themselves?
If they did, people would laugh.
But I think the reporting when it comes to Bradley is so clearly different in my judgement, we simply point out their errors & biases - what's wrong with that?
But - the awards the media wins are awards the media hands out to themselves on a regular basis calling themselves "excellent"...
Do the local car dealers hand out awards to themselves or local medical profession hand out Oscars to themselves?
If they did, people would laugh.
tornado
New member
BTW- if the press gets awards for when they do their job as it should be done-
then should they not also get some kind of notice (maybe a 2-day penalty from sportswriting?) when they report things erroneously or hurt people personally with false headlines about the facts or completely mistake things about a police report or do columns on pure speculative rumors that are not true?
Lately, laid off, retired, or fired sportswriters & columnists have often found new or other careers going to work for the very schools they covered - so...
you don't think that maybe has an influence on how they report?
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/genrel/072309aaa.html
http://www.golobos.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209076884
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=71481
then should they not also get some kind of notice (maybe a 2-day penalty from sportswriting?) when they report things erroneously or hurt people personally with false headlines about the facts or completely mistake things about a police report or do columns on pure speculative rumors that are not true?
Lately, laid off, retired, or fired sportswriters & columnists have often found new or other careers going to work for the very schools they covered - so...
you don't think that maybe has an influence on how they report?
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/genrel/072309aaa.html
http://www.golobos.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209076884
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=71481
wily coyote
Active member
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think KW was elected President of the Sports Writers of American a year or two ago. Think he traveled to Hotlanta for the presentation. I also don't recall anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings on the Hilltop but I do remember seeing them on this site for a very short time. Now I'm not going to get in a dart throwing contest over who was acting professional or who wasn't. It seems fault maybe be plentiful in this instance.
quick search but here's one from National Association Sportswriters and Sprotscasters
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20130110/News/301109778
wily coyote
Active member
Thanks for the help Lefty I forgot about those. All those awards were probably some how fixed by the PJ Star.lol
Actually, your memory may be failing you. I think this would qualify as "anything he or DR printed in the PJ Star about pre mature firings" -
Kirk was the first one to report the likelihood there would be firings in his "Time to Turn the Page on Bradley Basketball" column way back on January 24-
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20150124/SPORTS/150129465/12696/SPORTS (2nd paragraph on page 2)
And if Ford and athletics director Michael Cross are adept at reading signals, they’ll know Glasser’s impending exit means their time here is short — if not out.
So why are the apologists for the PJ Star crying about rumors posted on privately owned, little old fan message boards that nobody is required to read, while this distinguished and highly awarded writer did essentially the same thing weeks earlier?
For people that are objective there is a difference...their time here is short..if not out.....certainly nothing definite said in that statement......