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Art of the "Flop"

There is good news out of all of this though, assume we play the Flops in STL- our guys will remember the flops and hopefully take it out in the one that counts....that is if the Tim Kurkjian ref isn't there

Who will be officiating in StL? Will DE get the good old valley refs. or try to upgrade for arch madness. It would be wonderful if we could get some Big East or even Big Ten guy for this big event. I would like our chances if we had big time officials, guys that would let the players decide the outcome and not ruin this event with their whistles...
 
Who will be officiating in StL? Will DE get the good old valley refs. or try to upgrade for arch madness. It would be wonderful if we could get some Big East or even Big Ten guy for this big event. I would like our chances if we had big time officials, guys that would let the players decide the outcome and not ruin this event with their whistles...

I'd be willing to put alot of money on Sanzerre, Higgins, J.D. Collins, Paul Janssen, Tom O'Neill, and maybe guys like Ted Hilary and Ed Hightower. I assume Hartzell won't be there at all since I am pretty sure he still can't do UNI games since he USED to be their AD. Those are just off the top of my head...
 
I'm not sure who's been calling them for the last couple of years, but I do feel like in general they're called "better" than regular-season MVC games.
 
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You must be losing your memory because the charge/flop has always been a part of the game.

That's not correct. I believe flopping became an art when legendary high school coach, Dawdy Hawkins, coached the Pekin Chinks to the state championship in 1967. Their best player was golden at it.
 
That's not correct. I believe flopping became an art when legendary high school coach, Dawdy Hawkins, coached the Pekin Chinks to the state championship in 1967. Their best player was golden at it.

All puns get reported directly to the powers to be...
 
all sports have flops; soccer,bball, footbal, etc. acting is a part of sports now adays. and i loved when divac flopped. it doesnt matter if the team hadnt crossed half court yet for offense while he was on defense, he would already be ready to flop and go the other way with or without contact! haha
 
At least in soccer they found that flopping was taking away the flow from the game so if you are found to have flopped you'll get a yellow card at least. Until they start Ting up or accessing fouls for flopping, it will continue. I just wish though the refs would at least only call fouls when there really is some body contact. Some of these guys go down with barely a finger nail grazing them.
 
but how often is it enforced??

There's also a rule in basketball that a fake flop can be called as a technical, but that's one I have NEVER seen called, ever!

Uh-oh T... You just jinxed us... we're gonna lose a game over a supposed fake flop that gets called as a technical. I'm blaming you in advance.
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but how often is it enforced??

There's also a rule in basketball that a fake flop can be called as a technical, but that's one I have NEVER seen called, ever!

I've seen it and the refs in soccer will warn the tams first that a card will be shown with the next percieved flop and it usually puts an end to the situation. Flopping on world class soccer has gone down. The biggest floppers were the Italian squad. First class floppers and actors.:razz:
 
but how often is it enforced??

There's also a rule in basketball that a fake flop can be called as a technical, but that's one I have NEVER seen called, ever!

I remember Bradley being warned to stop the fake flopping during a game in the Fieldhouse I dislike the flop, but dislike the officials who call the charge on the play worse.
 
I noticed the last couple of weeks watching the girls hsbb the flop was not called unless one of the players was hit pretty hard, and then it was called correctly in favor or the player being fouled. Now watching the boys hsbb they are not calling a voilation just to blow a whistle. They are letting the kids play. Is the flop just a valley kinda thing, will they eliminate it when Jim Bain leaves?
 
I wish they would call a charge when there really is contact and not to help bail out lazy D. I also wonder what they will do about those moving screens! It is one call that is called so differently in other conferences. I'm not saying it is wrong or right in the MVC it just seems, if the refs can blow that whistle of theirs, it will be called.

Also I notice that WVU does not set high screens but secondary screens off the ball. I was wondering with our ball handlers why do they need screens and with AW coming back I would think he will be so much more dangerous coming off of screens and getting the ball with some space then trying to dribble or shoot over a bigs outstretched arm. This would also keep our bigs from being called on yet another moving screen violation.;-)
 
I wish they would call a charge when there really is contact and not to help bail out lazy D. I also wonder what they will do about those moving screens! It is one call that is called so differently in other conferences. I'm not saying it is wrong or right in the MVC it just seems, if the refs can blow that whistle of theirs, it will be called.

Also I notice that WVU does not set high screens but secondary screens off the ball. I was wondering with our ball handlers why do they need screens and with AW coming back I would think he will be so much more dangerous coming off of screens and getting the ball with some space then trying to dribble or shoot over a bigs outstretched arm. This would also keep our bigs from being called on yet another moving screen violation.;-)

I mentioned that in another thread. The art of hitting jumpers coming off screens without the ball seems like a lost art anymore. Rautins(Syracuse) does it as well as anybody I've seen in a while.
Now it's mostly ball screens
 
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