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Back from the Red - White Scrimmage

Collins won't start. He was lost, and where was Austin? Salley looked great and it is a good thing he did. I think all the JUCOs will come around, but that usually happens late in the season. Nothing happened tonight to change my mind about the BIG adjustment that JUCOs always need to make. We have some tough games early and that worries me. Our guards are going to have to carry things for a while.
 
Red-White scrimmage opinion

Red-White scrimmage opinion

In my opinion Ruffin looked absolutely fantastic tonight.Sam Man. and Cole Scott
seemed to bring a lot of energy to the floor.Sam actually guarded Ruffin fairly well,but
Ruffin just made some really tough shots against him.JC was slightly off tonight,but given
that he is the nation's leading 3-point shooter I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.BU's big guys didn't finish well on their offensive chances,but they did seem to
rebound well in my opinion.Salley was the one big guy who finished well around the basket.
I also thought that Sam Singh did a good job in the scrimmage.He did a good job rebounding
the ball and he got himself to the fould line a few times.He also actually made his foul shots
when he got to the line.David Collins at this point looks like he could be an inconsistent
player to me.Will Egolf looks real athlethic,but he also looks like he is learning the college
game as we speak.
I do wonder how much the players knowing each others tendencies played into the
game being sloppy.While there are negatives to take away from the scrimmage I feel that
there are positives to take away from the scrimmage as well.
I also sure as hell expect this team to be better than .500.
 
Yeah, so I didn't think it was bad. Saw a lot of athleticism and defense. Collins was a monster on defensive boards, got called for some fouls though... Egolf didn't have his shot, but on defense he altered a ton of shots and seems really able to jump. Ruffin and Salley stood out, I thought. Tyrone Cole-Scott is super fast, maybe faster than Ruffin, and has ridiculous moves. Maniscalco looked like he could play now, though not against a guy like DRuff.

As for the game, offensive flow was hard to come by. Tons of substitutions I think played a part, as well as the hard defense being played.

The only player I was disappointed in was Rashad Austin, he looked lost at times.
 
Wow... Where to start.. Well JL can certainly bust some moves.. :)
As DRU stated this was the Danny Ruffin show. Other players that I liked were Coles Scott, Maniscalco (more on Sam later), Matt Salley and Sam Singh.

Maniscalco- will be a good one as people have stated here... BUT.. SM has a trendency to push off which I think MO Valley refs will have a field day on...

It's only a scrimmage but.....
This team really needs to work on their freethrows!!!!!!!!!!

I was disappointed in Will Egolf hope it was a case of the jitters and or Will pressing to do better....

I would like to see Andrew Warren step up and become a scorer...

I think David Collins will be a good one but am afraid he will be prone to foul trouble...

Anthony Thompson--man is he tall and SKINNY. He has the moves and I think in time he will be a good player as well....

Sam Singh---Sam it looks as if you worked very hard over the summer....

Finally...we will get a better idea of things with the exhibition game against St Ambrose.
 
I don't put much stock in games like this. They practice against each other every day. Wait until they play strangers to judge.
 
A couple of other things that I forgot to mention...

Sam Singh looked very good to me. Was able to run the floor, and really seems to get it, scheme-wise. (He should, as Jim Les said, he's been here for twelve years)

Also, I don't think of this as any sort of ".500 team." I thought our play looked a lot like last year, except that we have no shortage of post players. The returning guards were good (though JC only shot so-so), and TCS (we need a nickname for him, bad) looked like he could really be a slashing monster, Maniscalco looked like he could give minutes now. Theron Wilson was the only one I couldn't find on the floor. He looked super athletic, but I didn't see him make a lot of plays.
 
georgethedog said:
Collins won't start. He was lost, and where was Austin? Salley looked great and it is a good thing he did. I think all the JUCOs will come around, but that usually happens late in the season. Nothing happened tonight to change my mind about the BIG adjustment that JUCOs always need to make. We have some tough games early and that worries me. Our guards are going to have to carry things for a while.
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These guys will have two exhibitions and 4-5 early games to get it together. I'm going to hold judgement until I see them play against another team. I personally don't think Bradley will have too tough a game until Vanderbilt/Utah St.
 
Regarding the ladies...

It was too bad to see four of them having to sit out. I was interested in seeing Nekmouche and Rogers get a shot at the floor.

They have really added some speed and athleticism, and the freshman, Raisa Taylor looked pretty fantastic. She was very quick, pretty tall, and seemed like she just had "it" on the court. She needs to get a bit stronger, as she was getting pushed around a bit.

Anyway, it's a very different team from last year, though I still don't feel like I see good movement away from the ball on offense, which seems to make the offense disorganzied and pretty ineffective (then again they put up more points than the men hehe).
 
To start the "2nd half", the one team consisted of Ruff, Warren, Salley, Wilson, and Crouch. I have a feeling JL had them together (subject to change of course) as they are the starting 5.
 
Good thing Bradley didn't do an exhibition tour to somewhere like say Canada and maybe lose a game or have to go to extra periods to win. Yikes!

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Mike Radigan said:
To start the "2nd half", the one team consisted of Ruff, Warren, Salley, Wilson, and Crouch. I have a feeling JL had them together (subject to change of course) as they are the starting 5.
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I thought the exact same thing MR. They also traded SM to that team in the timed game situations.
 
MacabreMob said:
Good thing Bradley didn't do an exhibition tour to somewhere like say Canada and maybe lose a game or have to go to extra periods to win. Yikes!

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Meaning? I certainly don't like to see how negative this evening turned out. Hard to tell for those of us who live far away, but the tone here suggests that these guys are not at all as talented as advertised.
 
OK whats next

OK whats next

Reviewed all the raves and pans, didn't make it to the scrimage. Sounds like JL has a lot of guys that can make DR look like an AA. No replacement for ZA and NO inside game. 450, 500, 600, or better or worse? I'll go 20 and 10.
 
Big Mike said:
People............everyone needs to realize this a just a practice against player's who know your every move and what plays you are trying to run! Every year after the red/white a panic hits the board where no-one new showed anything.......PLEASE.....calm down....it is just an intense practice in front of the fans.........this team showed me a lot of hustle and deflected more passes than any team I can remember.......all is fine! The next team they play will not know all the plays and everything the player across from them is doing!DC is very mobile for a 7 footer........TW is an athelete and TCS is fast enough to start at point if needed......very quick.......SS moved faster and jumped higher than any time on the hilltop!Give these new player's time to get used to things and everyone on here will be very happy!:wink:
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Amen! Jeez everyone, what did you expect? 7 newcomers in their first action in front of fans, and in a scrimmage no less. What were people expecting? I saw our new big men being very athletic, trying to fit in, and perhaps a little shell-shocked with the crowd, the lights, and the speed and intensity of the game. I saw the veterans play like veterans, and the new guys play like new guys. I saw some very big, very athletic, very talented big men trying to get their feel. I can and will probably get more specific later, as I did notice some things from our new guys, but I will discuss them later.

Everyone - We are still a guard team. We will still go as far as our guards go. We now just have a front line to go with those guards. If JC and Ruff play like they did last year, and Warren, Cole-Scott, and Sam can come close to matching what DA, JJ, and Will Franklin contributed, we will be fine. We have more than a 1-2 capable bigs to rebound and defend this year, which is a good thing.

Things will become clearer Thursday, and also Sunday. Believe me, things will look different and better against real competition, not guys we've been playing against for the last 4-5 months. Everything's fine. The kids are great. Jimmy's doing a great job.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Things will become clearer Thursday, and also Sunday. Believe me, things will look different and better against real competition, not guys we've been playing against for the last 4-5 months. Everything's fine. The kids are great. Jimmy's doing a great job.
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I won't be able to make Thursday's game, but do plan on making it Sunday. My own personal hype about this team has only been kept in check after tonight. I refuse to make a judgement, good or bad, after one 20-minute scrimmage. I am very much looking forward to seeing how the team looks with only five guys on the floor at a time and not near the number of substitutions as you see in a scrimmage. I certainly hope the walk-ons do not get as much time as they did tonight!
 
What a turnout for a scrimmage. It was very clear to see which guys had played before and which ones hadn't. The new guys still had to think instead of just playing.

One positive I took was that there was a lot of passing. This unselfishness thing has caught on.
 
Just to further my reasoning to not "downgrade" this team after one 20-minute scrimmage. Let's take a look at some of the minutes that were played tonight. Three walk-ons nearly matched the minutes that were played by three guys expected to be contributors this season.

13 - Lavin
14 - Cole-Scott

10 - Phillips
11 - Collins

9 - Thornton
8 - Austin

That alone tells me that the results are skewed. I just feel the need to hold judgement until I see more stability in the lineups that are put on the floor and that just isn't possible in this type of scrimmage.
 
it's boogie time said:
What a turnout for a scrimmage. It was very clear to see which guys had played before and which ones hadn't. The new guys still had to think instead of just playing.

One positive I took was that there was a lot of passing. This unselfishness thing has caught on.
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Ding! The kids were almost passing too much, which is a surefire sign of guys playing tentatively and trying not to make mistakes. As the new guys become more familiar with their role in the system, things will start clicking much easier.

On a side note, I especially liked seeing Coach Merf get right back into the mix. It's got to be very enjoyable for him to be back with a winning program without necessarily having the pressures of being the head coach.
 
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