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Belmont declines NIT bid
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daveineureka
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Well this in my opinion leaves the door open for Bradley should they get a bid. Small opening but one nonetheless.
Canton BU fan
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Does anyone here know if Bradley has still been practicing in anticipation of possible postseason play?
The NIT GUARANTEES a spot for each of the 12 highest ranking conferences.. and of course the MVC is one of them
So at least one MVC team will get an automatic (Exempt) bid.
HOWEVER- last year when a couple of Big Ten & Big East teams declined their bids, the NIT did NOT offer those bid to other Big Ten & Big East teams.... so we'll see... this is how Wichita with an NET of 135 got an NIT bid...
So at least one MVC team will get an automatic (Exempt) bid.
HOWEVER- last year when a couple of Big Ten & Big East teams declined their bids, the NIT did NOT offer those bid to other Big Ten & Big East teams.... so we'll see... this is how Wichita with an NET of 135 got an NIT bid...
Bradley finished 2nd to Belmont in the Regular season! Even though their NET is lower then the teams behind them, shouldn't the regular season standings outweigh statistics!? Otherwise, why play for 2nd place or any place!? Tell your team, you are just practicing and we're gonna rest our players so they don't face a better chance of injuries during the regular season! In a mid-Major league unless you go undefeated at an 0.5% chance, winning your tournament is all that matters! The top high majors are already in, so who cares who wins the Big ten tournament!? However, there NCAA seedings for March Madness are at stake during the regular season.
Does the NIT have defined criteria for who get's the conferences bid if the 1 seed declines? I'm seeing on twitter people are saying NET or KenPom, but convos I'm having with other Braves seemed to imply it'll be in line with your thinking, that the next highest seed gets it.
well, Belmont already got the guaranteed bid- if they decline, the NIT would look if another team is qualified and available but
I guess we would have to wait & see but not sure they are obligated to give it to any other MVC team.
Of course, they might or they might use an at large bid for an MVC team.
Here are the NIT's own rules:
"If a team declines its exempt bid:
www.ncaa.com
By eligible, they mean having the acceptible "data metrics (BPI, KPI, NET, KenPom, SOR, TOR, WAB)"
Furthermore....
Key Metrics ("KNIT" Score)
The NIT committee utilizes an average of seven specific metrics to rank teams, known as the KNIT score:
So using all those metrics if a team has a satisfactory set of metrics, it is considered ELIGIBLE.
I guess we would have to wait & see but not sure they are obligated to give it to any other MVC team.
Of course, they might or they might use an at large bid for an MVC team.
Here are the NIT's own rules:
"If a team declines its exempt bid:
- The bid passes to the next eligible team from the same conference based on the same metrics.
- If no eligible replacement exists, the exempt bid is removed entirely, and the number of at-large NIT bids increases by one."
How the field of 76 DI men’s teams is picked for March Madness
The NCAA’s guide to how the 76 teams are chosen, seeded and bracketed for the Division I men's basketball tournament every season.
www.ncaa.com
By eligible, they mean having the acceptible "data metrics (BPI, KPI, NET, KenPom, SOR, TOR, WAB)"
Furthermore....
Key Metrics ("KNIT" Score)
The NIT committee utilizes an average of seven specific metrics to rank teams, known as the KNIT score:
- BPI (ESPN Basketball Power Index)
- KPI (Kevin Pauga Index - results-based)
- NET (NCAA Evaluation Tool)
- KenPom (Ken Pomeroy Rating)
- SOR (Strength of Record)
- TOR (Torvik Ranking)
- WAB (Wins Above Bubble)
So using all those metrics if a team has a satisfactory set of metrics, it is considered ELIGIBLE.
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well, Belmont already got the guaranteed bid- if they decline, the NIT would look if another team is qualified and available but
I guess we would have to wait & see but not sure they are obligated to give it to any other MVC team.
Of course, they might or they might use an at large bid for an MVC team.
Here are the NIT's own rules:
"If a team declines its exempt bid:
- The bid passes to the next eligible team from the same conference based on the same metrics.
- If no eligible replacement exists, the exempt bid is removed entirely, and the number of at-large NIT bids increases by one."
How the field of 76 DI men’s teams is picked for March Madness
The NCAA’s guide to how the 76 teams are chosen, seeded and bracketed for the Division I men's basketball tournament every season.
By eligible, they mean having the acceptible "data metrics (BPI, KPI, NET, KenPom, SOR, TOR, WAB)"
all of which is discussed and decided behind closed doors...so I guess nobody really knows.
This specific case is actually addressed in the NCAA selection process rules.
Here is the rule governing this situation from the NCAA website (these rules apply to the NCAA Tournament and the NIT Tournament)-
NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Selections
NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Selections
www.ncaa.org
If the selection committee went by the conference standing, Bradley would be the next eligible team.
However, as I read their selection "metrics" they do not appear to consider conference standing. So it will probably come down to their complicated formula using BPI (ESPN), Kenpom, KPI, NET, Strength of Record, Torvik, and WAB (Wins Above Bubble).
But like Da coach said,is Bradley actually interested at this point?
Ok,sorry...I remember someone said that.
I corrected my post above this one to say-
If the selection committee went by the conference standing, Bradley would be the next eligible team.
However, as I read their selection "metrics" they do not appear to consider conference standing. So it will probably come down to their complicated formula using BPI (ESPN), Kenpom, KPI, NET, Strength of Record, Torvik, and WAB (Wins Above Bubble).
If the selection committee went by the conference standing, Bradley would be the next eligible team.
However, as I read their selection "metrics" they do not appear to consider conference standing. So it will probably come down to their complicated formula using BPI (ESPN), Kenpom, KPI, NET, Strength of Record, Torvik, and WAB (Wins Above Bubble).
You said, "not sure they are obligated to give it to any other MVC team."
Their own rules say that as long as an eligible team exists, they are.
bradleyfan124
Well-known member
Forget all the metrics. If they are supposed to pick a team from each conference MVC included then if the first place team regular season declines they should go to the second place team. Metrics measure all games played but they are looking for games played within the conference. Having said that I know the NCAA does not follow logic
daveineureka
Active member
Reading about the metrics the NCAA uses to determine giving out bids makes my head spin. One time I see rules to give out a bid and another time I see something totally different. IMO Bradley finished second in the conference and therefore should get a bid. And on top of all this our fan base would give a good turnout if we were so lucky to get a bid and home game. Am looking at it from a more simple way of thinking. But what do I know. Here is hoping Bradley gets a bid to play.
Coach Wardle has said he would accept an NIT bid
Ok,nice to know