I agree. Once they start to shoot you out of that zone, you have to switch back to man quicker. When teams run a little cold and start missing threes, it can lull you into a false sense of security.
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Bradley 66 Michigan 77 - Final
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I agree. Once they start to shoot you out of that zone, you have to switch back to man quicker. When teams run a little cold and start missing threes, it can lull you into a false sense of security.
It also looked like we were fatigued then too. It seems when you are tired and playing zone you tend to relax more than playing man IMO. they had a couple of passes inside where Pross and AT were late getting to and the perimeter guys just didn't move quick enough when Michigan rotated the ball
With lack of depth we may always struggle later in the second half this year.
Yes, I think this is a big part of what transpired in the second half. All of our starters played over 30 minutes, and we got much less contribution from our bench (only 1 basket) than we have gotten in any other game this year. It appeared to me that tiredness was a factor later in the second half.
Did anybody notice DSE come to the bench in mid 1st half.... he was drenched with sweat. Those boys gave a hard 30 minutes and had nothing left. Too bad it's a 40 minute game. After we hit a 3 to tie the game in the 2nd half, you could tell we had spent everything and BLUE was ready to take over.
Seems like too many are complaining about the offense which scored 66 points on the road and several shots that were in and out of the basket, sure the offense revolves around 1 on 1 movement on the offensive end but that is why we spead the floor more so these guys can use their 1 on 1 skills to their advantage, it is nice to have players that are able to get their own shot as it makes that player much harder to guard, because we are now making more 3 pointers we are becoming a team that is a lot harder to guard, Geno is doing a good job with the teams lack of depth.
tornado
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I think there are still some talented players on the bench who might have helped - Charron Woods, DS....
tornado
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A very good game by the Braves and easy to see what we still have to work on...
-3-pt defense
-we need to pass the ball around a little better
-let's not get so excited when we score 2 pts that we give up 2 on a technical
but if we play like that we will beat plenty of teams still this year...
The announcers talked plenty about how Bradley uses way too many 1 on 1 moves and solo play and simply doesn't pass at all on many possessions.
Is this the way we're going to play the rest of the season or are we working on that?
-3-pt defense
-we need to pass the ball around a little better
-let's not get so excited when we score 2 pts that we give up 2 on a technical
but if we play like that we will beat plenty of teams still this year...
The announcers talked plenty about how Bradley uses way too many 1 on 1 moves and solo play and simply doesn't pass at all on many possessions.
Is this the way we're going to play the rest of the season or are we working on that?
I have to hand it to the Big Ten Network and their announcers. They do a pretty good job of not making it a Big Ten love fest when they do games with teams out of conference. They did a fair share of talking about BU and never really in a negative way and at least gave the presentation that they were unbiased. They really seemed to enjoy the Bradley brand of basketball they were watching.
The other thing I thought was really cool is when they showed the Michigan lockeroom at halftime. The assistants were spouting off stats and they showed what the gameplan was going forward. I wish we had the capability to do that with MVC TV. I think it would be really interesting to see what the home team talks about at the half.
The other thing I thought was really cool is when they showed the Michigan lockeroom at halftime. The assistants were spouting off stats and they showed what the gameplan was going forward. I wish we had the capability to do that with MVC TV. I think it would be really interesting to see what the home team talks about at the half.
tornado
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they were very complimentary of BU and at one point mentioned that BU is picked last in the MVC and so that must mean the Valley "stacked"..
He might not have said that if he had watch the SIU game
Kelser also said in the first half he like their half court sets too...and then the second half he talked about the one on one........like I said before when they slowed down just a little BU had some good results.
I really liked that too
wily coyote
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I never thought I would agree with your post but you are 100% correct. We have a hard time passing and catching so the 1 on 1 concept may be whats best for this team. It is sometimes hard to watch because we make so many turn overs but better times are ahead.
I am seeing improvement so in my mind thats a positive.
I don't think a lot of coaches would agree with this. Many have told me that when you are not a good outside shooting team, you need to work on and employ good passing and cutting. For players to go 1 on 1 so much, it gives the defense the advantage of knowing where the shots are coming from most of the time. Once opponents scout more carefully, which is what happens once conference games start, we'll see that those shots get a lot harder.
I agree with you here 100%..Played to many games to know a true team beats the one on one team if the talent is comparable.
I'm really excited for the rematch in Peoria next year. We have another year of experience, everyone's learned Geno's system, we only lose Taylor and Sticks but get WE back, NW will play, and we get TP and finally DB to run the point. With all that I feel like it will be a lot more competitive game down the stretch for BU. But that's just my opinion. Got to start getting away from the 1 on 1 offense though. I think that DB can help with that running the point and if Geno can start getting Crawford some minutes at point now that could be a good fit for him as a back up role provided Bell can start.
+1
As I and others have stated, we slowed down our offense a little and got nice results. I think if we could adapt a little further and incorporate a team style to our offensive scheme, then I think this team could do some nice things and players like Shayok could shine a little more.
Buesch N Chips
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Skip: What's our record, Larry?
Larry: Eight and sixteen.
Skip: Eight... and sixteen. How'd we ever win eight?
Larry: It's a miracle.
Skip: It's a miracle. This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Larry: Lollygaggers!
Skip: Lollygaggers.
wily coyote
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Oh I agree most coaches would not buy into so much 1 on 1 play. I think almost all of us would agree but what the poster was saying made alot of sense also. We are not very good at passing and catching the ball. Very basic things that you would think by the time you get to this level it ought to be human nature. Maybe it's called lack of talent. You keep repeating we need a PG. Hello we had one but things didn't go his way so he took his ball and ran. This is not a sprint it's a marathon. We have a long way to go and until Geno gets his people in here we will have to live with it. I am seeing improvement and thats the most we can ask for.
tornado
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Just got done watching a replay of the BU-Michigan game...and have a couple questions for the experts...and just want to play devil's advocate....
after Michigan had taken a 15 pt lead and Bradley was battling back....we're talking the final 3 to 4 minutes...
there were several Michigan possessions where we just let them dribble out almost all of the 35 second shot-clock and we chose NOT to foul...
At the point when this started, the score was 72-61 - so we're down at least four possessions - and we're at 3:46 and we're allowing Michigan to take 20-30+ seconds off each shot clock...
..so Michigan burned from 4:09 to 3:45, then again 3:45 down to 3:17, then once more 2:45 down to 2:16
but even worse -- while we chose to avoid fouling - guess what happened on every one of those possessions - they either got a good shot, got fouled anyway, or got the offensive rebound!!
So how could we have possibly hurt anything if we fouled and put then on the line.
In fact - one of those times - after we let them eat the clock from 3:39 down to 3:17 - we ended up fouling the shooter anyway and HE MISSED THEM BOTH!!
Then why didn't we just use the foul 20 seconds earlier??
Would the extra time have helped? No way to know for sure - but ..
Then Jake makes a 3-pointer and we once again let them eat almost the entire shot clock all the way from 2:09 down to 1:31....why???
Then a few seconds later Jake swishes a 3-pointer but the refs call a foul on Burke and wipe the 3 points off the board!
Had they allowed those 3 pts as it appears they should have then at 1:13 - we'd be down only 8 pts and shooting FT's.....it would have been pretty interesting had we saved those 2-3 minutes that we let them eat away.
Even the final 1:13 we let them eat entirely away with two possessions and did not foul - at that point we have nothing to lose - try it
...after all we made up what would have been a deficit of SEVEN POINTS right before halftime (if we don't allow the technical FT's) in less than 2:30!
after Michigan had taken a 15 pt lead and Bradley was battling back....we're talking the final 3 to 4 minutes...
there were several Michigan possessions where we just let them dribble out almost all of the 35 second shot-clock and we chose NOT to foul...
At the point when this started, the score was 72-61 - so we're down at least four possessions - and we're at 3:46 and we're allowing Michigan to take 20-30+ seconds off each shot clock...
..so Michigan burned from 4:09 to 3:45, then again 3:45 down to 3:17, then once more 2:45 down to 2:16
but even worse -- while we chose to avoid fouling - guess what happened on every one of those possessions - they either got a good shot, got fouled anyway, or got the offensive rebound!!
So how could we have possibly hurt anything if we fouled and put then on the line.
In fact - one of those times - after we let them eat the clock from 3:39 down to 3:17 - we ended up fouling the shooter anyway and HE MISSED THEM BOTH!!
Then why didn't we just use the foul 20 seconds earlier??
Would the extra time have helped? No way to know for sure - but ..
Then Jake makes a 3-pointer and we once again let them eat almost the entire shot clock all the way from 2:09 down to 1:31....why???
Then a few seconds later Jake swishes a 3-pointer but the refs call a foul on Burke and wipe the 3 points off the board!
Had they allowed those 3 pts as it appears they should have then at 1:13 - we'd be down only 8 pts and shooting FT's.....it would have been pretty interesting had we saved those 2-3 minutes that we let them eat away.
Even the final 1:13 we let them eat entirely away with two possessions and did not foul - at that point we have nothing to lose - try it
...after all we made up what would have been a deficit of SEVEN POINTS right before halftime (if we don't allow the technical FT's) in less than 2:30!
IMHO T , I am more concerned about getting our guys in an offense that can create better looks and utilize their talent than what we are currently getting with this one on one style in non-break situations. Michigan was a better team and I think we played very well for most of the game last night. A lot better than I thought we would show at that game. I don't think that fouling etc would have changed the outcome.