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Bradley completes schedule

again...sorry to have to correct...
there are NOT 7200 season ticket holders....nowhere close....
Each season ticket holder has from 1 or 2 on up to a dozen seats in their season ticket package...
I am a season ticket holder but I own four seats...some of which I might not care to purchase for extra games, although sometimes I might get more than four if I have an option...
I personally appreciate that I am not forced to take all four of my seats for the extra games, and happy that I can get as many as I want...

there are far less than 4000 season ticket holders.....and some of those season ticket holders who have upwards of 4, 6, and 10 seats in their package would NOT want to get 4, 6, and 10 seats at extra games --
that's why when we have post-season games and exhibitions, they only sell 3000-5000 tix -- and LESS THAN half of the season ticket holders will claim their usual seats.....
as I have said before -- it is expected that any and every season ticket holder can likely be accomodated for the on-campus games given than many will NOT want
as many seats as they have in their downtown season ticket package...
EVEN if there's a game where demand is high and there's a battle for tickets, then some might see that as GOOD not bad.........
just like a restaurant that has a waiting line and some people pass on it when they drive by because the line is too long....they'll realize the quality of what's being sold
must be really high, but this time they'll find something else to do AND the next time they'll call in advance and get there earlier!!
 
tornado said:
that's why when we have post-season games and exhibitions, they only sell 3000-5000 tix -- and LESS THAN half of the season ticket holders will claim their usual seats.....
as I have said before -- it is expected that any and every season ticket holder can likely be accomodated for the on-campus games given than many will NOT want
as many seats as they have in their downtown season ticket package...
EVEN if there's a game where demand is high and there's a battle for tickets, then some might see that as GOOD not bad.........
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Again.....here are the actual numbers for the most recent postseason games......

5,928.....2008-09.....CIT.....4 games

6,851.....2007-08.....CBI.....3 games

8,304.....2006-07.....NIT.....1 game

4,472.....Lowest

9,014.....Highest

6,571.....Average attendance

Only three of the last eight postseason games at Carver were under 6,100. I'm sure these numbers are closer to the actual attendance than regular season games, since they are not part of the season ticket package.
 
but fewer than 4000 were sold to season ticket holders..far fewer...it has long been discouraging to the folks at BU that for the post-season games,
less than half the seats generally sold as season ticket seats, are claimed by the same season ticket holders...
MANY choose NOT to scarf up their season tix.......
when I was at those games...
half of all the lower bowl seats near me were occupied by people that were NOT the usual holders of those seats and were guys who just walked up and bought those seats...that's why they sold so well.....because walk ups could get seats in the first 4 rows at courtside...
Hey -- due to a ticket foul-up there was even a guy who came to my seats claiming he had the right to sit there and his tickets had my seat numbers on them...
it was a ticket office foul up but i got it cleared up since I was the season ticket holder...and the other guy just sat across the aisle in totally unoccupied seats that were Priority I seaosn tickets!!

so----- I stand by the simple point I made that had tickets been limited to 4000, then still every season ticket holder who wanted seats could have gotten them....and same will be the case on the hilltop.....
 
Webster defines EXTRA as additional!
Bonus or is it Extra? I love your spin on the # of season ticket holders! Your examples and logic are both smoothing to the heart! But I do get it T! If I have a family of 4, wife and two kids,myself and I go down to BU, purchase the 4 season tickets as I do each year, I am the holder and they are not! Then during the year I tell them there is a home game this week-end at BU but we can't go because it's not in MY Downtown Season Ticket Package and mom says there is NO more $ for the bonus games, if I could get them anyway! So suck it up kids and find something else to do and start saving your cans so we can go to one of those BONUS/EXTRA games if I can get tickets. Oh something else, by the way honey/kids I drove by Alvanti's on the way home and there was a long line so we will stay home and have PotPies!
Just for the record I don't have 2 kids at home just the wife and I! I just told her she is not a season ticket holder! Her response was, the HELL I AM NOT, WHO THE HELL SAYS I AM NOT, I said a guy named T!
 
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<P>Just for the record I don't have 2 kids at home just the wife and I! I just told her she is not a season ticket holder! Her response was, the HELL I AM NOT, WHO THE HELL SAYS I AM NOT<IMG class=inlineimg title=Mad alt="" src="images/smilies/mad.gif" border=0 smilieid="8"> I said a guy named T<IMG class=inlineimg title=Laughing alt="" src="images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="16"></P>
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What the Hell:?
 
T,

A husband and wife may have seasons tickets and both consider themselves season ticket holders.

By your logic, if the husband is the only one with his name on the account, then you're only counting that as 1 season ticket holder? Hmmm....
 
Out of Balance-

In the pre-inter-league era, a Cubs season ticket holder was not entitled access to the in-season exhibition vs the White Sox or vice versa.

A Peoria Symphony Orchestra season ticket holder has to buy extra tickets to go to next weekend's Beatles tribute.

College of Charleston fans were not entitled admission to the ESPN Tournament on their home floor that they participated in last year.

If an opera company performs the Ring Cycle (a run of 4 straight nights) that would not be part of any base season-ticket subscription.
 
while everyone agrees that the idea of campus games is not 100% favorable...
neither are the higher prices of tickets compared to a decade ago, and the more difficult parking situation since the Civic Center expansion....but sometimes things just are as they are or as they have to be...

and I suspect not even all the people on the Hilltop are fully in agreement which is probably why it was not done this year...
BUT -- it is part of the way the world is changing -- and when people say..
"well they've never done it before so I don't think they should do it now"
or
"this might make me buy extra tickets for additional events"
or
"they have no right to do this to all of us because were entitled.."

it unfortunately shows the contrast between what fans want and have come to expect...vs. what the University needs to do to stay competitive, and maximize revenue and get more out of the enormous investment in the campus facilities...
If we could just get some friendly politician or someone at the upper level of govt. to just hand over mega bucks as they do to the state and public schools, then there'd be less reason to be so cost-oriented...
but the cost issues are MORE real than most think.....you think BU is rolling in dough??
guess again.............these are hard decisions and some "fans" are looking only at "how's this gonna impact ME"


U of I got nearly a BILLION dollars of general revenue funds from taxpayer coffers...BU got NONE...
and they get far more government grants and funds in other manners as well than BU ever get...
http://www.uillinois.edu/administration/budget.tuition.cfm

Illinois State as well as the other state colleges benefit from $3 BILLION of "State Monies" and taxpayer revenue..
http://www.grapevine.ilstu.edu/fifty_state_summary.htm

The amount that ISU got from the state was $100 million!!!
(actually $97,329,000 in 07-08, and $103,081,000 in 08-09 the most recent year published...)
...and it's nonsense when people say none of that goes to support athletics...as we have shown countless times..
http://www.grapevine.ilstu.edu/statereports/index.htm
 
Have a better team, have more success, make the game night out more entertaining, market the product better, go to the NCAA/NIT, sell out the PCC on a regular basis and make more $$$....

4700 people x $25 pp per game x 2 non con exhibitions = $234,000 less expenses at the on campus arena.

Couldn't BU do as well adding another 3000 people in the stands at the PCC for each of the 16 home games and a couple of exhibitions?

Has anyone seen a financial pro forma on men bb games games at the on campus arena vs at the PCC - factoring in ticket revenue, concession revenue, parking revenue net expenses? Is the financial benefit to BU selling another 500 seat licenses to ticket holders for the prime seats?
 
Buesch N Chips said:
OoB, even though you may not believe it, the team would be able to play a game without you there.
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Yes but Beer sales would suffer and start a chain of financial events that could ruin Peoria....:)

Let em have it Oob.....the game wouldn't be the same without YOU, Chico or any of the other great lifelong BU fans there.
 
AZ BU Fan said:
Have a better team, have more success, make the game night out more entertaining, market the product better, go to the NCAA/NIT, sell out the PCC on a regular basis and make more $$$....

4700 people x $25 pp per game x 2 non con exhibitions = $234,000 less expenses at the on campus arena.

Couldn't BU do as well adding another 3000 people in the stands at the PCC for each of the 16 home games and a couple of exhibitions?

Has anyone seen a financial pro forma on men bb games games at the on campus arena vs at the PCC - factoring in ticket revenue, concession revenue, parking revenue net expenses? Is the financial benefit to BU selling another 500 seat licenses to ticket holders for the prime seats?
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SO logical....and MY thoughts exactly. Sell/fix what you got and what HAS worked at times in the past for 25 years.
 
Buesch N Chips said:
OoB, even though you may not believe it, the team would be able to play a game without you there.
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Believe it or not I know that:!: Never knew or wanted to come across that way:!::|
Now if I was to say anything close to that or attact another poster like you just did, I would be gone:lol: But you know BnC, most everyone on here knows your not as clean and right chess as you put on to be friend;-)
 
tornado said:
while everyone agrees that the idea of campus games is not 100% favorable...
neither are the higher prices of tickets compared to a decade ago, and the more difficult parking situation since the Civic Center expansion....but sometimes things just are as they are or as they have to be...
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I don't think it's difficult at all to find a parking spot for Bradley games. There at least two sizeable parking lots available on RB Garrett....one of which is just across the street from the PCC and I don't remember it ever being completely full.
 
AE Braves Fan said:
T,

A husband and wife may have seasons tickets and both consider themselves season ticket holders.

By your logic, if the husband is the only one with his name on the account, then you're only counting that as 1 season ticket holder? Hmmm....
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I always go in a group of four to the conference games and consider all four of us to have the conference season tickets. All four of us go to the postseason games together as well.
 
squirrelgotdead said:
Out of Balance-

In the pre-inter-league era, a Cubs season ticket holder was not entitled access to the in-season exhibition vs the White Sox or vice versa.

A Peoria Symphony Orchestra season ticket holder has to buy extra tickets to go to next weekend's Beatles tribute.

College of Charleston fans were not entitled admission to the ESPN Tournament on their home floor that they participated in last year.

If an opera company performs the Ring Cycle (a run of 4 straight nights) that would not be part of any base season-ticket subscription.
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Thanks for comparing Apples to Apples, friend:lol:
Cubs, Peoria Symphony Orchestra, College of Charleston and opera company's:roll: None of these come close to how I feel about BU BB:!: But try maybe saying the admission to Big Als one night does not entitle you to the next night:lol:
 
shaunguth said:
I don't think it's difficult at all to find a parking spot for Bradley games. There at least two sizeable parking lots available on RB Garrett....one of which is just across the street from the PCC and I don't remember it ever being completely full.
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more difficult = now kids have to negotiate a busy 4-lane street w/ impatient motorists, in the dark, twice
 
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