Bradley Wins!!! 79-73 over Ohio

[Dubl R 1]

I realize shooting free throws in pre-game shootaround isn't going to raise your percentage 10%. The point I was making is that maybe we should be getting into the mindset of what our rolls will be during the game instead of bigs trying to be guards and guards trying to be Kobe. We looked like the And 1 team and Ohio looked like a division one team in a postseason tournament.

Understood. It's not so much what they were doing before the game, but how they were doing it. Pretty much lolligagging and messing around. They didn't get in the right frame of mind. That had better not be the case tonight, or it'll be over before it starts.

 

[J Money]

I agree. Coming from behind on Ohio or Cinci is one thing. Doing it on the road at Virginia is another. We need to come out with some fire tonight.

 

[beanocookschins]

I agree. Salley has played much better the 2nd half of the season, and has given us all he possibly can. He's limited as to what he can do, plain and simple. I was as hard on MS as anyone (for on and off-court matters), but I think the performances lately of Singh, Austin, and even Collins has showed us why we needed Matt Salley logging 30+ minutes every night this year.

Just this guys opinion but Bradley will struggle to fill the roles left by Crouch, then Salley, then Ruffin: in that order.

Salley isn't great but he gets basically 7 points, 7 boards and a block a game while being the only tough inside guy who doesn't foul every two seconds. That stuff isn't lost on me.

 

[tornado]

We lose three starters, but just as Drake lost four senior starters last year, I think we will have to work hard to find someone to fill those roles.

 

[MacabreMob]

Just this guys opinion but Bradley will struggle to fill the roles left by Crouch, then Salley, then Ruffin: in that order.

Salley isn't great but he gets basically 7 points, 7 boards and a block a game while being the only tough inside guy who doesn't foul every two seconds. That stuff isn't lost on me.

I thought Bradley was still trying to replace Big Pappy.

 

[shaunguth]

Just this guys opinion but Bradley will struggle to fill the roles left by Crouch, then Salley, then Ruffin: in that order.

Salley isn't great but he gets basically 7 points, 7 boards and a block a game while being the only tough inside guy who doesn't foul every two seconds. That stuff isn't lost on me.

I'm gonna take issue with those numbers when it comes to conference opponents, which is where a team positions itself for a run in the postseason.

Salley scores seven points in 8 of 19 games.

Salley has seven rebounds in 12 of 19 games.

Salley has seven points and seven rebounds in 5 of 19 games.

Oh yeah....and he's the only "inside guy" shooting under 50% from the field. The others are all 60% or better.

 

[shaunguth]

I thought Bradley was still trying to replace Big Pappy.

I think that begins next season!

:cough: AT :cough:

 

[beanocookschins]

I'm gonna take issue with those numbers when it comes to conference opponents, which is where a team positions itself for a run in the postseason.

Salley scores seven points in 8 of 19 games.

Salley has seven rebounds in 12 of 19 games.

Salley has seven points and seven rebounds in 5 of 19 games.

Oh yeah....and he's the only "inside guy" shooting under 50% from the field. The others are all 60% or better.

His season totals are 6.0 ppg, 6.6 rpp, and 1.0 bpg. Hey, if the other guys were better they would be playing. They aren't. It's still 24-25 minutes a game that needs to be filled.

 

[shaunguth]

His season totals are 6.0 ppg, 6.6 rpp, and 1.0 bpg. Hey, if the other guys were better they would be playing. They aren't. It's still 24-25 minutes a game that needs to be filled.

And there lies the problem......when Matt Salley is our best option as a starting center.

That does not make him a tough guy to replace simply because he has the job by default.

 

[beanocookschins]

And there lies the problem......when Matt Salley is our best option as a starting center.

That does not make him a tough guy to replace simply because he has the job by default.

Yes, but Anthony Thompson is the only new guy (as of now) who isn't currently available for playing time. If AT put up 6 points and 6.6 boards next year I will do cartwheels.

 

[dogsrus]

Matss free throws and defense have been a godsend the last few games....

 

[J Money BU]

Yes, but Anthony Thompson is the only new guy (as of now) who isn't currently available for playing time. If AT put up 6 points and 6.6 boards next year I will do cartwheels.

You'll do carwheels for that? You have awefully low expectations of AT. Get off the tracks when the A Train's coming through. I know you'll say he hasn't played a minute and don't put high expectations on him but that is exactly what I'm doing. A guy with his skill set should average more than 6 and 6.

 

[ER3]

You'll do carwheels for that? You have awefully low expectations of AT. Get off the tracks when the A Train's coming through. I know you'll say he hasn't played a minute and don't put high expectations on him but that is exactly what I'm doing. A guy with his skill set should average more than 6 and 6.

He needs to put on a lot of weight.
I watched him play at that TCC tourney here last year and Beas Hamga absolutely destroyed him. AT looked like he had some offensive potential and runs really well for his size, but he was 50 lbs. of muscle away from being able to compete in the post and succeed at the D-I level.
Hopefully he is continuing to bulk up as we speak...I'll temper my expectations for him until we see what kind of physical condition he is in coming into next season.

 

[tornado]

Well........that's unfair to compare, as Anthony Thompson was all of 17 years old at that time that they played each other, while Beas Hamga was said to be almost 20 but likely older than that given the propensity for falsification in transfer records from Cameroon...

read about it here.......
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=64029#post64029
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=42869&highlight=cameroon#post42869
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/international_guide/2005/2005_international_guide.pdf

I saw that game also, and some pretty unfair early fouls on Anthony also affected his play and he was tentative.

Others who saw him play, including this poster who I know personally and who is a lifelong basketball recruiting expert, said this........
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=10456#post10456
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=10472#post10472

 

[Lakeview Brave]

You'll do carwheels for that? You have awefully low expectations of AT. Get off the tracks when the A Train's coming through. I know you'll say he hasn't played a minute and don't put high expectations on him but that is exactly what I'm doing. A guy with his skill set should average more than 6 and 6.

The top rebounder in the conference only averaged 8.8 boards a game. I will be giddy with 6 per game from AT. That would mean our red shirt freshman was in the top 10 in rebounding in the Valley.

 

[ER3]

Well........that's unfair to compare, as Anthony Thompson was all of 17 years old at that time that they played each other, while Beas Hamga was said to be almost 20 but likely older than that given the propensity for falsification in transfer records from Cameroon...

read about it here.......
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=64029#post64029
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=42869&highlight=cameroon#post42869
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/international_guide/2005/2005_international_guide.pdf

I saw that game also, and some pretty unfair early fouls on Anthony also affected his play and he was tentative.

Others who saw him play, including this poster who I know personally and who is a lifelong basketball recruiting expert, said this........
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=10456#post10456
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=10472#post10472

Agreed...Hamga did look like he was 22 years old at the time...However, all of these posters that are predicting that AT will start right away next year and be a force in the Valley, etc....these posters are all predicting that he will be having that level of success against guys that are 2, 3, and 4 years older and more developed than AT...so I think the AT vs. Hamga comparison is pretty valid when talking about what we should expect from him as a freshman next year.

Don't get me wrong, I like AT's upside and I think he can become a really good Valley player if he continues to develop physically and gets a bit of a mean streak in him...I just think he is going to really struggle next year to be able to match up with D-I players as far as strength, intensity, and toughness are concerned. The redshirt year will buy him time to add some weight, but he still has a ways to go physically before I think it is realistic to expect him to be averaging 8-10 points and pulling down 6+ rebounds a night.