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BU falls again

I know later in the game, SM was winded and needed a break. I am not sure if this was the time you are talking about or not.

As for taking a TO when you have some momentum...I can see both sides to this. If my team is struggling a little and then makes a small run, but there are things need to be discussed, I sometimes will wait until a made basket for us. I do this to get the MO on our side as they come off the floor, something to build on!
 
Yeah I could see that. It's not like we were on a "run". We were playing pretty sloppy and couldn't get the ball in the hoop and finally made one shot. Maybe they're more likely to be upbeat & pay attention in the huddle if they feel like they are on the verge of coming back rather than when they are upset...as well as JL.
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
That tip in by Dyricus that was waved off from the Leprechaun standing on the opposite side of the floor near half court didn't help...We were down 3 and he would've been at the line to tie the game or w/o a whistle at all we would've been down only one...

One of the worst calls I've seen all year to be honest!
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I did not see the game so I will have to refer to the people that did. CB was adament that DSE should not have been whistled for the call.But then again CB like the rest of us may be bias. I'm not a big fan of Sanzare or Pollard either one. Not sure how they stay in the league.
 
Could've been called in all honesty. Usually isn't when the game is on the line with about a minute left though.

Pretty much just ran in and jumped up for the ball along with 2 uni guys..he tipped it in but while jumping towards the ball he collided with a player in midair and that player fell down. Forgot who it was...maybe o'rear or something. I don't think it was an awful call....just usually it's a non-call type of situation unless it's hard.
 
I was proud of the effort last night. Hustle for almost 40 minutes and played with wreckless abandon...almost TOO wreckless with 20 turnovers, which cost them. If they play with this intensity from here on out, good things will finally come around. They were in the game all night, which was a pleasant surprise. I haven't felt positive about a game since the NIU win. We can hope the guys don't hang their heads and regroup for Sat. for a tough game - a pivotal game - no time to sulk.
 
Bradleyguy10 said:
Could've been called in all honesty. Usually isn't when the game is on the line with about a minute left though.

Pretty much just ran in and jumped up for the ball along with 2 uni guys..he tipped it in but while jumping towards the ball he collided with a player in midair and that player fell down. Forgot who it was...maybe o'rear or something. I don't think it was an awful call....just usually it's a non-call type of situation unless it's hard.
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It was Ahelgebe as O'Rear and Koch watched him go right around them for the tip....KA was clearly already under the basket and DSE didn't do anything that should've even remotely been considered a foul, and I guarantee if it had been on the other end, there never would've been a whistle!

Sanzere needs to go home and hope he doesn't get another game in Peoria...


Makes me long for the days that the PA would announce the officials before the games...
 
Timeout

Timeout

Why did Jim Les burn a timeout after a made basket in the early part of the 2nd half?

Maybe just maybe having that one time out would have helped out at the end of the game where it was a huge cluster trying to navigate their fouls and our communication from the bench on how to handle the last 20 seconds.

I have no clue why Les thinks it is a good idea to call time outs after made baskets early in half. It was not his first time he has done this and last night it really came back to bite him bigtime.
 
houstontxbrave said:
I have no clue why Les thinks it is a good idea to call time outs after made baskets early in half. It was not his first time he has done this and last night it really came back to bite him bigtime.
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I have always hated when he does this. Of course, UNI also called one right before a media TO if I remember correctly.
 
Because of the delay by the refs to check the remaining time, I think JL got the play called that he wanted. So not having a timeout probably wasn't a factor.
Jim does call timeouts after made baskets more than any college coach I can think of. It's probably from his days in the NBA, where coaches do this all the time. It's usually a move made to get a defensive set to try to get a stop or turnover.
 
Da Coach said:
Because of the delay by the refs to check the remaining time, I think JL got the play called that he wanted. So not having a timeout probably wasn't a factor.
Jim does call timeouts after made baskets more than any college coach I can think of. It's probably from his days in the NBA, where coaches do this all the time. It's usually a move made to get a defensive set to try to get a stop or turnover.
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Ill buy the time with the review as enough time to get a play called. But they had 3 fouls to give before a ft. We were confused. Especially before the last foul and the time issue. We needed to take the ball directly to the lane and initate a foul, not allow them to guard us and wait for a foul.

They really did not have to even foul. SM was fouled 30 ft from the rim with less then 1 second to play. We were not prepared at all.

A timeout would have calmed things a bit, given a little direction. Game management, be prepared and dont burn timeouts when there is not a need or reason to burn one, and our game management was not good in the last 30 seconds.

BTW if he is still coaching college basketball off of his instincts from playing NBA basketball 20 years ago, then we really have a HUGE problem.
 
Da Coach said:
Because of the delay by the refs to check the remaining time, I think JL got the play called that he wanted. So not having a timeout probably wasn't a factor.
Jim does call timeouts after made baskets more than any college coach I can think of. It's probably from his days in the NBA, where coaches do this all the time. It's usually a move made to get a defensive set to try to get a stop or turnover.
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I coached Junior High ball for 10 years. I have the record for most TO's called after a made basket...lol

I only did this late in the game, however.
 
All I want to say is that I love the way DSE plays the game. I would take 4 of him and 1 big any day.

I think we all wish we had the timeouts at the end of the game, but perhaps without taking that timeout earlier, we never even have the chance to win at the end. I also thought the clock confusion at the end gave Jim the chance to call the play he wanted. I was looking for a mid range catch and shoot there, as I was assuming they would be guarding the rim for the lob and the 3pt to eliminate the upset trey.

There were a few multiple turnover possessions by both teams that were just plain crazy. I was happy with the D effort and coaching in this game, but obviously a loss is still a loss. For whatever reason, the last 3 games with UNI have been heartbreakers. If TB and AW can contribute in Peoria, I like our chances. I hope UNI is still ranked come 2/13. If so, I might have to make the 5 hour drive to come see that upset.
 
Buddy Lee said:
Lost another close winnable game and had no time outs at the end...Jacobson directed his team at the end with the fouls to win and we dont even get a shot off? Thats the game I watched. Granted, the effort (especially on D and on the boards) was there, this team doesn't have the confidence to close games out since the big one against Ill.
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SO JL gets railed if he doesn't call timeout when the other team is on a run, saving them for later, then gets beat on if he calls them and we don't have them. Once again, I am not a huge Les fan and think if next season isn't a top 3 finish he should be replaced, but seriously the JL can do no good gets old.
 
daPAWW1 said:
We can't mention names on this site it might be construed as negative. Read recent PJS article where our leader identified himself!
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Just say it, if you don't do it in a demeaning fashion no one will think anything of it. I often call out EM for poor performance, and mention his twitter/facebook quote talking about how everyone is wrong and that he can shoot, but I do it in a respectful manner so it's always allowed. Its when we call players derogatory terms, are unreasonable critical, or speculate on rumors that posts get removed. If you don't do any of that (and I've never known you to), then it won't be an issue.
 
peoriaspitfire said:
All I want to say is that I love the way DSE plays the game. I would take 4 of him and 1 big any day.

I think we all wish we had the timeouts at the end of the game, but perhaps without taking that timeout earlier, we never even have the chance to win at the end. I also thought the clock confusion at the end gave Jim the chance to call the play he wanted. I was looking for a mid range catch and shoot there, as I was assuming they would be guarding the rim for the lob and the 3pt to eliminate the upset trey.

There were a few multiple turnover possessions by both teams that were just plain crazy. I was happy with the D effort and coaching in this game, but obviously a loss is still a loss. For whatever reason, the last 3 games with UNI have been heartbreakers. If TB and AW can contribute in Peoria, I like our chances. I hope UNI is still ranked come 2/13. If so, I might have to make the 5 hour drive to come see that upset.
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I agreed with about every aspect of this post. The 4 DSE's obviously isn't literal, but I might actually take two of him. I think next year he should start. Either over Sam (yes, I did say that someone might actually deserve to start over Sam), or in place of CRob if Dodie or MK. Doesn't step up. I think my ideal lineup next year would be SM, AW, TB, WE, JP with DSE first off the bench. That leaves us thin on the frontcourt subs, but would be a nice line up. Hopefully one of the new players that comes in is bigger (3/4?).

As far as this year goes I am very content with giving the backup minutes for both Sam and AW to DSE, get him at least 15-20 minutes a game if not more. IMO he gives us much more than Edge on offense and is equivalent on D. I do wish AT would step up, I thought we saw him coming of age earlier in the season....
 
Tulsa Brave said:
We need to play our best home game of the year thus far to win IMO....MSU is the best team we have played at home so far, and we are yet to win a home game by over 6 points except against one of the worst teams in all of D-1...Presbyterian. Our best 40 minute efforts all season have all been away from home. I can almost guarantee that we will be underdogs on the Vegas line...
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Yeah, but we haven't played a complete game at home all year either. If we do, we win this game by at least 10, although at this time I will take a 1 point win, which I think we are more than capable of doing if we play Saturday like we did last night.
 
Out of Balance said:
Six points is six points friend, that we still had to over come:!: I stand by what I pointed out:!: This team comes out of that locker room for what ever reason and lets the other team have a run of points, every game. I think we would/could agree this does nothing to help us close out a game. Just adds to our second half challenges. This needs to stop:!: Pretty simple facts and it makes sense to me:roll: Nowhere nitpicking:!: By the way, which I never do:!: If anyone was, well :) Your apology is excepted:)
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Thanks. :) My point though is that yes, while the six points may very well have been the difference, I still think this team should be credited for playing the closest to a complete game that we have had since the Illinois game. This is progress, and yes we have to build on this on Saturday, but I don't think we should dismiss the improvements we made last night just because we still have a two minute flat stretch to start the second half. As I stated last night, while six points was still huge, we stopped the bleeding much faster and actually got ourselves together to make a run.

Yes, we lost the game, but consider this a game that we weren't supposed to win anyway. And yet look how close we came to actually winning it. I think that says a lot about this team and we need to build on it, not dismiss it.
 
Bradleyguy10 said:
Could've been called in all honesty. Usually isn't when the game is on the line with about a minute left though.

Pretty much just ran in and jumped up for the ball along with 2 uni guys..he tipped it in but while jumping towards the ball he collided with a player in midair and that player fell down. Forgot who it was...maybe o'rear or something. I don't think it was an awful call....just usually it's a non-call type of situation unless it's hard.
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You're right. He may very well have committed the foul, but usually the refs let that go that late in a game. It's unfortunate when a call is made like that and it decides the outcome of a game. Sometimes it's better for the refs to let the game go on in that situation and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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