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Butler coach Brad Stevens rumored for Georgia job

tornado said:
yes...but the latest talk among head coaches is that if you pass an opportunity and stay loyal to where you are...you are only setting yourself up for this....

...coaches like John Brady (who led LSU to the Final Four), and Gary Williams (who won a national championship at Maryland), and Mark Gottfried (who led Alabama to the Elite Eight in 2004) actually should have looked to hop to another open job position then....instead of staying loyal.

In other words it's a lose-lose situation if you become successful....
--if you leave and grab another spot, then you get dissed for being UN-loyal
--if you stay, then the expectations to win every year will finally catch up to you.



"It puts coaches in a difficult position...
"Should Mark Gottfried have left (Alabama) after getting to the Elite Eight? Take advantage of the success and move on. Then there would be a lot of criticism of him not being loyal."
http://www.kentucky.com/609/story/676589.html


In an interview Dan Monson said he never regretted leaving Gonzaga and jumping to Minnesota, because even though he couldn't live up to their high expectations, he still made enough that his family is set for life. Ultimately this rash of firings will cause more coaches to "strike while the iron is hot" and soon there will be little loyalty remaining.
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Yeah...that's true.I guess I see Stevens at schools in the midwest and maybe some in the B12.
He has a young team and they should be good for a couple more years.
I see him more at schools like Marquette, ND heck even Maryland but money does talk. It seems that basketball is second fiddle by alot in many schools in the SEC........particularly Georgia and Alabama
 
Lsu,Alabama, and Maryland are not exactly small programs, in order to move up one of the elite jobs (Kansas,Kentucky,N.Carolina,Duke,Ucla) would have to want them which never happened.
 
lefty said:
It seems that basketball is second fiddle by alot in many schools in the SEC........particularly Georgia and Alabama
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While the Georgia and Alabama jobs are at BCS schools, whoever gets hired will have to realize that those schools have two different seasons...football and spring football...and basketball will always play second fiddle to the football program. Stevens is the big enchilada at Butler (a basketball school), so he may want to be a little more selective about his next coaching position.
 
real fan said:
Lsu,Alabama, and Maryland are not exactly small programs, in order to move up one of the elite jobs (Kansas,Kentucky,N.Carolina,Duke,Ucla) would have to want them which never happened.
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I agree and in Maryland's case where would have GW gone, to the NBA? He is coaching at his alma mater and has said plenty of times it where he wants to retire. He left a pretty good team and situation at Ohio State to be there. I would say basketball probably is the number one sport there.
 
tornado said:
yes...but the latest talk among head coaches is that if you pass an opportunity and stay loyal to where you are...you are only setting yourself up for this....

...coaches like John Brady (who led LSU to the Final Four), and Gary Williams (who won a national championship at Maryland), and Mark Gottfried (who led Alabama to the Elite Eight in 2004) actually should have looked to hop to another open job position then....instead of staying loyal.

In other words it's a lose-lose situation if you become successful....
--if you leave and grab another spot, then you get dissed for being UN-loyal
--if you stay, then the expectations to win every year will finally catch up to you.



"It puts coaches in a difficult position...
"Should Mark Gottfried have left (Alabama) after getting to the Elite Eight? Take advantage of the success and move on. Then there would be a lot of criticism of him not being loyal."
http://www.kentucky.com/609/story/676589.html


In an interview Dan Monson said he never regretted leaving Gonzaga and jumping to Minnesota, because even though he couldn't live up to their high expectations, he still made enough that his family is set for life. Ultimately this rash of firings will cause more coaches to "strike while the iron is hot" and soon there will be little loyalty remaining.
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Well, I don't think we have to worry about Les or Altman leaving anytime soon. Both like it where they are, and Les still is trying to get our team up to the next level anyway. So hopefully the Valley coaches stay stable for awhile.
 
T, I'll take John Feinstein's word with this one. He is one of the better sport writers out there and is usually right on and is very fair. ;)
 
tornado said:
No problem, but he does appear to be a part of the hometown press, although if you review all that he's written on the Maryland situation, it appears
he is really getting into it with almost everything he's ever written on Gary williams coming in just the past few weeks - defending GW!
...... the one yesterday certainly suggests Feinstein is a huge Gary Williams fan, so how objective can he be?

They're about to run the guy out of Maryland and Feinstein wants to name the home court after Williams...

"I hope Gary stays as long as Gary wants to stay, and when he leaves, they name the court for him at his last home game."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/01/30/DI2009013003105.html

I guess you can read it any way you want...but that column sounds about as objective as when Chris Mathews
reported that when he watches Obama he feels tingles down his legs!
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Feinstein is a Duke graduate and is quite knowledgeable about Maryland because he has been writing for the Washington Post for quite some time. He maybe in GW's court because he likes the guy and his integrity. Just because you have your opinion it does not make it the law. I was just stating that there are other people that takes GW's whole resume, not just these past few years and his tirade of the mid-majors and deem him a sham. GW has done a lot more for that program then any coach has done for BU and not to long ago we had a discussion about naming the court after a longtime BU coach.:confused: It would have been very hard for Maryland to build the Comcast Center without the work GW did, PERIOD. He took a program on probation with Bob Wade and the Len Bias cloud and turned it around to win a national chamionship. I would love someone here at BU to do that and I bet if that happened there would be a court named after them!
 
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