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CHN Top 144 Countdown

tornado said:
The next batch on the CHN countdown...Bradley comes in at #91

#93 Detroit
#92 Colorado
#91 Bradley
#90 Western Kentucky
#89 Stephen F. Austin

here's their discussion of Bradley...picked 5th in the MVC
...it's fairly good review...but not a single mention of either Prosser, Walt, or Davis...
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/91-bradley-2010-11-basketball-preview-168735
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Yet another 5th-place pick. I guess the Valley will be much stronger this season......

With four starters returning and plenty of depth on the bench, Coach Jim Les should put together a team that should finish with a much better record.

But wait.....

This is not as tough of a Missouri Valley Conference as it was a few years ago and Bradley has the experience and talent to make a nice run if everything goes their way.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

BTW.....

Key Newcomers:
None of the newcomers will be asked to do much this season, but some depth in the frontcourt would be helpful. Jordan Prosser redshirted last year and his one year on the bench may make him the likely candidate to see a few minutes here and there. The ???Milk Man??™ can do a little bit of everything and has enough size to fill in at the four or five spot. Andrew Davis is an incoming freshman who will try and find some minutes as well. However, the 6-10, 215 pound Edmond, Oklahoma product needs to add more girth before he will be much of a factor in the paint. The lone newcomer on the perimeter is Walter Lemon who will find it very difficult to get minutes barring more injuries.

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When did JP become the "Milk Man" :confused:
Pretty lame.

In recognition of Caterpillar's generous support of BU, perhaps JP could be known as "The Bulldozer" :lol:
 
It was a decent writeup. Hopefully, Milos is never playing center.

It does make it sound like DSE is just another guy coming off the bench to give time to the starters. I really have high expectations for him and expect him to be a big contributor. I don't see him being a role player anymore.
 
The outlook for the Valley this season is a bit different from last.

There were a lot of solid middle-of-pack schools like ISU (red), BU, SIU, ISU (blue), and WSU heading into last season that many thought could finish #3 in the conf. This season, I think it's more of which team will keep up with Wichita St., with a few solid teams that have a chance for that:
UNI
MSU
CU
BU

I would say this season is slightly weaker than last. I don't think WSU is as good as UNI as a #1 team. SIU, Evansville, and ISU (red) appear weaker too.
I believe it will be a fun season to follow though, with a couple surprise teams to emerge. And I won't say that BU SHOULD finish 3rd or better, because right now, I think there are 3 or 4 schools better than us...until we prove it on the court.
 
I agree -- last year the Valley was comprised by UNI in a runaway (but they'll drop back with the rest of the pack this year)...
and then places 2 thru 9 in the Valley were all separated by a single game or less, so all the other spots in the valley were close - and I contend there really weren't a lot of big differences between 2nd place and 6-7th - that couldn't be accounted for by an injury here & there or an overtime result...

So even tho everyone is picking BU 5th, I cannot see if we're healthy that we will be much removed from the upper echelon of the Valley.....

as for his comment about the Valley being not being tough like it was a few years ago -- he must not have noticed that the only Valley team that was given an NCAA bid, was a Sweet Sixteen team and as good as many that were in the top 10-15!

The Valley also had 8 post-season wins last year (8-5) and one of the losses was Creighton's loss to MSU in the tourney that MSU won.....and way more that almost all other conferences (MWC was 2-5, Pac-10 was 3-5, even the vaunted Big East that got EIGHT NCAA BIDS was 10-13 overall in all post-season tourney play!!)
 
AZ BU Fan said:
When did JP become the "Milk Man" :confused:
Pretty lame.

In recognition of Caterpillar's generous support of BU, perhaps JP could be known as "The Bulldozer" :lol:
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..Got me thinking that Karl Malone had some Cat ties (I think his big rig was Cat powered) but he was the "mail man"
 
tornado said:
#82 James Madison - what?? these guys were 13-20 & one game out of LAST PLACE in the CAA, AND ONLY BEAT TWO TEAMS whose RPI was better than 250!
#81 Notre Dame
#80 Georgia Tech
#79 North Carolina State - this guy says NC State will finish 8th in ACC, others say they will finish 4th!
#78 Penn State - seriously?? This might well be the worst team in the Big Ten..
#77 Creighton - 4th in MVC
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/77-creighton-2010-11-basketball-preview-168752
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Yeah - what's up with PSU???
Did they forget to put a 1 in front of 78? This is ridiculous, unless they have an awesome recruiting class coming in.
 
Penn State's "star" is Talor Battle...
he's about as good a sub-6-footer guard as Penn State can expect to have, but seriously --

he is not gonna carry this team... In fact, he took 459 shot attempts last year and 493 the year before -- TOPS in the Big Ten both years!
...and his shooting pct. (career 39.5% overall and 32.8% from 3-pt) kinda proves he's only scoring 16-18 ppg because of all the shots he's launching..

Just for comparison -- the top three shot launcher/gunners in the Valley last year, Kyle Weems, Colt Ryan & Osiris Eldridge -- took only 379, 364, and 432 shots
 
Don't think it would ever happen, but,

How much fun would it be to get someone involved in the CHN Top 144 Countdown to join our Forum on line and take questions/provide awnsers from our posters about their CHN poll selections (like the JL on line interviews)?
 
tornado said:
#82 James Madison - what?? these guys were 13-20 & one game out of LAST PLACE in the CAA, AND ONLY BEAT TWO TEAMS whose RPI was better than 250!
#81 Notre Dame
#80 Georgia Tech
#79 North Carolina State - this guy says NC State will finish 8th in ACC, others say they will finish 4th!
#78 Penn State - seriously?? This might well be the worst team in the Big Ten..
#77 Creighton - 4th in MVC
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/77-creighton-2010-11-basketball-preview-168752
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Moving right along.......

#76 California
#75 Washington State
#74 Duquesne
#73 Colorado State - seriously?? I guess nothing's impossible at this stage -- but they're under .500 in the MWC every year for the past decade, and 11-37 in the past 3 seasons. And the guy they mention as the key newcomer is Wes Eikmeier, a walk-on who couldn't make it or bust into the lineup at Iowa State of all places!
They were also the 5th place team in the MWC last year but were RPI 120, so I doubt the 5th place team in the MWC this year will be top 75.
#72 Texas Tech - also were pretty disastrously disappointing last year, winning their first 9 against the likes of Lamar, Northwestern State, Samford, South Dakota, then losing 15 of their final 23 - and all seven of their final seven regular season games, to end up 8 games under .500 and just 4-12 in the Big East -- and they've restocked with nothing but jucos for this year...
This is a team that went 4-12 in its own conference, but still got an NIT bid !!! If the NIT is taking teams that finish 4-12 in their own conference, then I don't wanna hear any more about the CBI & CIT!
 
I'm not putting too much stock into the CollegeHoops Insider Top 144 anymore. The teams they put in certain positions is just absurd IMO.
Maybe the Iowa Hawkeyes are coming in at #67.
 
next batch...seems like he's hurrying faster to get this thing done...especially jamming all the remaining mid-majors in before he gets to 50

#63 Rhode Island
#62 VCU
#61 Georgia
#60 Southern Miss
#59 Wofford
#58 George Mason
#57 St. Mary's
#56 Louisville

This countdown started July 29, and so he had revealed the first half of his 144 teams (the first 72) by 10/18...or about 2.5 months, and thus averaged almost exactly one team per day (72 teams in ~75 days)

BUT -- he's now released 16 new teams in just the past 48 hours...or ramping it up to 8 new teams every other day!
 
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