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Cleveland Cavaliers win NBA draft lottery

Da Coach

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Any word on what kind of interest AW is drawing at the pro level? It doesn't seem likely that he'll be drafted, but it would seem crazy to me if someone didn't give him a shot with his size and scoring ability.
 
amettrick said:
Any word on what kind of interest AW is drawing at the pro level? It doesn't seem likely that he'll be drafted, but it would seem crazy to me if someone didn't give him a shot with his size and scoring ability.
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I heard nothing about AW to the NBA outside of Braldey fans. I agree with you that he probably won't get drafted, although strange things happen in the 2nd round. The mocks are all pretty early, and players will have plenty of time to improve their stock. Best of luck to AW.

Most NBA analysts have been saying that there will either be no season or a shortened season next year b/c of the lockout. This makes it less likely that undrafted players will be able to find a roster spot. I think many players similar to AW's ability will end up in the Euro leagues.
 
amettrick said:
Any word on what kind of interest AW is drawing at the pro level? It doesn't seem likely that he'll be drafted, but it would seem crazy to me if someone didn't give him a shot with his size and scoring ability.
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He won't be drafted, but every team invites free agents in for private workouts, and AW has been invited to work out for the Detroit Pistons, and a couple other teams so far. That could open the door for him in the NBA, but more likely he'll find a pro team internationally to play for.

There is a mention of Drew at the bottom of this article-
http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewAr...498&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205150445&DB_OEM_ID=3400
 
There really isn't a Derrick Rose or Blake Griffin guaranteed winner in this year's NBA draft...in fact -- some are saying that even top to bottom -- this is a very weak draft with few players that have anyone drooling...

Many people think Kyrie Irving will go #1 but that's still up in the air....
... as he has not been able to demonstrate sustained dominance due to his injuries....it's kinda like drafting Greg Oden -- a bit risky.

The other 4-5 best players all also have questions.....

-Kemba Walker is very small...maybe as small as 5-10

-Enes Kanter is a high projection but is very young, hasn't played much in over a year and has almost never played against top college or pros to see how he did.

-There's a couple internationals like Valanciunas, Vesely, Biyombo, and Montejunas, but that's risky as well since MANY of the really highly drafted internationals in the recent years have bombed out...Kevin Seraphin, Ricky Rubio, Victor Claver, Alexis Ajinca, Li Jianlian, Saer Sene (the guy drafted right after POB), Oleksiy Pecherov, Pavel Podkolzin, Fran Vasquez, Andris Biedren, Darko Milicic, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Bostjan Nachbar, Jiri Welsch...

I think the Morris twins, Maryland's Derrick Williams, and Jimmer will move up as the players get closer looks..
 
I'd have to think Kyrie goes #1... and Derrick Williams would fit in well with Love and Beasley in Minnesota.

Will be interesting to see the combo Cleveland pulls off with #1 and 4...
 
Kyrie Irving may have benefitted somewhat from his injury and sitting out most of the year (he played in a total of 11 games). He had some great games early, but missed the entire ACC conference season.
He never played enough to expose potential weaknesses.
I recall reading some experts saying his injury would hurt his draft status, but just the opposite appears to be the case. If he had never been injured, there is no way he would be rated any higher than he is. He is projected by most to be the #1 pick.
 
The same might be said for Enes Kanter. He was ruled ineligible at Kentucky, and never played in a single college game. Yet now I see some sites projecting him as high as the #1 draft pick. Is he really that good? Maybe by not playing at all, and avoiding the predraft camps his stock has reached mythical proportions.

Here are a few mock drafts-
CBSSports-
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/29388598

NBAdraft.net
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

DraftExpress.com-
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

http://www.mynbadraft.com/2011-NBA-Mock-Draft

http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm
 
One more comment (sorry to those who don't care about the NBA)-
Did anyone else watch the NBA Draft lottery drawing last night? The Cleveland Cavaliers were represented by the 14 year old son of owner Dan Gilbert. Nick Gilbert suffers from a rare childhood disease called Neurofibromatosis, which results in neurological tumors.

Here is a nice story about Nick Gilbert and a charitable foundation that will benefit from his newfound celebrity-
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/sports/...like-nick-gilbert-starts-new-cleveland-mantra


And the president of the Minnesota Timberwolves, who had the worst record last season and had the highest probability of getting the #1 pick, hinted that there might have been something fishy, and maybe the draft lottery was rigged, for the Cavaliers to jump over the Timberwolves to get the #1 pick.-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/david-kahn-draft-lottery-rigged_n_863550.html

http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Did_...n_accuse_the_NBA_of_rigging_the_lottery051811

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/18/kahn-insinuates-that-the-nbas-lottery-is-rigged/
 
Da Coach said:
The same might be said for Enes Kanter. He was ruled ineligible at Kentucky, and never played in a single college game. Yet now I see some sites projecting him as high as the #1 draft pick. Is he really that good? Maybe by not playing at all, and avoiding the predraft camps his stock has reached mythical proportions.
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I have heard that Kanter probably has the most upside, but he's a huge risk. He has really only played a couple good games, and no one has seen him play in about a year. He's 6'10, which basically puts him at the PF position, and he's been called a soft PF. If his game can develop, he could certainly turn into the best player in this draft.

Irving is likely to go #1 with Williams at #2 (very early, could easily change), and neither is likely to be a perennial all-star. This draft seems to be really good if you need rotational players/occasional starters but horrible if you need a star or franchise player.
 
Da Coach said:
And the president of the Minnesota Timberwolves, who had the worst record last season and had the highest probability of getting the #1 pick, hinted that there might have been something fishy, and maybe the draft lottery was rigged, for the Cavaliers to jump over the Timberwolves to get the #1 pick.-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/david-kahn-draft-lottery-rigged_n_863550.html

http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Did_...n_accuse_the_NBA_of_rigging_the_lottery051811

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/18/kahn-insinuates-that-the-nbas-lottery-is-rigged/
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And it must have been rigged when Minnesota landed the 6 and 7 picks of the 2009 draft, and promptly took 2 terrible PGs back to back.

Possibly the worst draft execution in the history of the league. Kahn is a joke, and everyone knows it.
 
amettrick said:
Any word on what kind of interest AW is drawing at the pro level? It doesn't seem likely that he'll be drafted, but it would seem crazy to me if someone didn't give him a shot with his size and scoring ability.
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AW was a very good player for us for most of his career, and really stepped up his game last year, but no way is he NBA material.
He's a smart player and found ways to score last year. But he shot the ball a lot to get his 19 ppg avg. (or around there).
He is too slow and not a good enough ball handler to play in the NBA. But I ain't no scout - wha'da I know. I hope he proves me wrong!
 
JMM28 said:
And it must have been rigged when Minnesota landed the 6 and 7 picks of the 2009 draft, and promptly took 2 terrible PGs back to back.

Possibly the worst draft execution in the history of the league. Kahn is a joke, and everyone knows it.
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Actually Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn were both rated highly PGs in that 2009 draft. Rubio refused to sign, and Flynn had a good rookie season, but was relegated to a backup role this season when they signed Luke Ridenour as a free agent. Flynn is still a decent NBA backup and is only 21. So these may not be the worst moves the Timberwolves have ever made, and the list of worse draft picks by every team is quite long.
 
Da Coach said:
Actually Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn were both rated highly PGs in that 2009 draft. Rubio refused to sign, and Flynn had a good rookie season, but was relegated to a backup role this season when they signed Luke Ridenour as a free agent. Flynn is still a decent NBA backup and is only 21. So these may not be the worst moves the Timberwolves have ever made, and the list of worse draft picks by every team is quite long.
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They seem to be lacking direction as a team. If they are stock-piling picks to trade for a veteran, then maybe some of their moves could pay off. Beasley and Randolph are similar players. The roster is a bit of a mess overall.
 
Da Coach said:
Actually Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn were both rated highly PGs in that 2009 draft. Rubio refused to sign, and Flynn had a good rookie season, but was relegated to a backup role this season when they signed Luke Ridenour as a free agent. Flynn is still a decent NBA backup and is only 21. So these may not be the worst moves the Timberwolves have ever made, and the list of worse draft picks by every team is quite long.
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I understand they were highly rated. The move was universally laughed at even during the draft.

One guy who basically said don't pick me, I won't sign with you and then you pick him. Now he has played absolutely terribly in Spain, and might actually jump to the NBA.

The next guy plays the exact same position of the guy you just picked. To describe a #7 pick in a draft as a 'decent NBA backup' is exactly why it was a bad pick. Not to mention the guy you are trying to convince to come play for you, you just gave him a 20MPG reason not to come.

Now had they taken a combination of Flynn and Curry, or Rubio and Curry that year; it would have made a little more sense.
 
It doesn't make sense that only 4 teams with the worst record have won the lottery since 1985, no wonder bad teams stay bad in the NBA.

But the Cavs getting the first pick is great for them. Kyrie won't be the next Chirs Paul or Deron Williams, but his celling seems to be more realistically Chauncey Billups (good shooter, good passer, good leader, not fast, not necessarily great at anything.)
 
I agree. I didn't get to see much of Irving, but he looked like he'd make a good NBA lead guard. I don't think he'll ever be Derrick Rose, but maybe he could be John Wall.
 
I think the weak drafts are a result of too many NBA teams. There are too many teams and not enough stars. When you have this many kids being drafted to so many teams the field is going to look weak. Especially on a year like this year.
 
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