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Coach Les's Comments After the Game

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Coach was very direct and angry in his post game comments with Dave Snell. I've never heard him so frustrated. Paraphrasing, Coach Les said that he needed players who would compete....that he'd start 2 Frosh. and Ryan Phillips if that's what it takes. He also said that the University treats them (the players) too well for "this kind of performance". Words like embarrassed and humiliated were used.

As the Valley season begins we may very well see either new energy from the regular starters, or new starters altogether.
 
The only thing I have to say is we need a point guard that will perform above average, McCain has played better but he still needs to be able to knock down outside shots because they are giving him wide open looks, Maniscalco cannot continue to play like he has been or we are in for a long season.
 
doug shank's crossover said:
Coach was very direct and angry in his post game comments with Dave Snell. I've never heard him so frustrated. Paraphrasing, Coach Les said that he needed players who would compete....that he'd start 2 Frosh. and Ryan Phillips if that's what it takes. He also said that the University treats them (the players) too well for "this kind of performance". Words like embarrassed and humiliated were used.

As the Valley season begins we may very well see either new energy from the regular starters, or new starters altogether.
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I would have to add that the university treats Les too well for his performance. He's pulling down hundreds of thousands of dollars a year with a only a BS degree. He better look closely in the mirror. :rolleyes:
 
I agree with Les to a degree. However, it is his job to get the team ready mentally to play and compete. I know he doesn't shoot the ball or rebound or any of that, but having a team prepared to play each and every game is his and the staff's job. Long story short, there's plenty of blame to go around for yet another December of Discontent.

And don't even get me started on the scheduling. 4 games in 27 days? How is any team supposed to get prepared for conference season with 4 games in 27 days? Seriously, someone please answer that question...
 
BradleyBrave said:
And don't even get me started on the scheduling. 4 games in 27 days? How is any team supposed to get prepared for conference season with 4 games in 27 days? Seriously, someone please answer that question...
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Agree, very hard to keep up the intensity and focus needed to compete. Then when you throw in the 2 home loses, and the way they were lost, hard to correct that with long lay offs!!

Was working and missed the first half. Saw a little spirit in the second half and liked what I saw out of Eastman, but also wonder why use him and lose the RS in a game like this?!?
 
BradleyBrave said:
I agree with Les to a degree. However, it is his job to get the team ready mentally to play and compete. I know he doesn't shoot the ball or rebound or any of that, but having a team prepared to play each and every game is his and the staff's job. Long story short, there's plenty of blame to go around for yet another December of Discontent.

And don't even get me started on the scheduling. 4 games in 27 days? How is any team supposed to get prepared for conference season with 4 games in 27 days? Seriously, someone please answer that question...
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JL looked for an opponent for the 23rd and could not find one! I know because I tried to find one here in the SF Bay area without success. St. Mary's wanted to play us but they are heading to Hawaii for a Tourney. You have to also remember that we never schedule games during finals, never!
 
bigdaddystuck said:
Eastman, but also wonder why use him and lose the RS in a game like this?!?
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Careful.....don't question every little move he makes. Just sit back, be quiet and let the season unfold. At seasons end THEN you have a small window of opportunity to go over what went wrong.....but then its on to the new recruits and all the potential.
 
JoetheBelly said:
I would have to add that the university treats Les too well for his performance. He's pulling down hundreds of thousands of dollars a year with a only a BS degree. He better look closely in the mirror. :rolleyes:
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well said. Who is JL "blaming"? He says the university is treating them too well, and that they are playing poorly.
most good leaders will front some of the blame...not just pawn it off.

Sending it out there, who is it who took away the teams jerseys and they had to earn them....it very well could be a movie, haha

JL should start the tough love mentality at bradley. Take away the guys' cell phones and such
 
I believe the guys down in Gainesville heard similar language after the championship year and see how that went down. Players are very pampered and quite possibly JL forgot to recruit a guy with a junkyard dog mentality, take no prisoners, get in your teammates face type of guy. Believe it or not JL was that guy on his team and Massive MIke enforced it while HH made everyone look good.
 
SFP said:
I believe the guys down in Gainesville heard similar language after the championship year and see how that went down. Players are very pampered and quite possibly JL forgot to recruit a guy with a junkyard dog mentality, take no prisoners, get in your teammates face type of guy. Believe it or not JL was that guy on his team and Massive MIke enforced it while HH made everyone look good.
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While I agree that we DO NOT have that guy, we've been told time and again that Sam Maniscalco was that guy. Clearly he isn't.
 
The last couple weeks with the BU program have been surreal...Incredible we go from the all time high of BU vs Illini to this.....An ugly three game losing streak, coaching staff shake up, and the head coach publicly calling out his veteran players right before the MVC season starts for the second straight game. Not exactly a receipe for success.

Its hard to understand this happening with a coach in his 8th season, vs a coach in transition coaching other's recruits.

Unfortunately I think we have heard this kind of disappointing discussion from the BU coach before with some of his other teams.

I don't know if this BU team has the athletic/basketball ability the NCAA team did when it turned around quickly after a terrible start in the MVC in 2005-06.
If the problem is ability, this will not change that much once the season gets underway, particularly since BU will be playing teams who know all about BU and JL's coaching system/style.

This could be the fourth year in a row I had great expectations for BU success, based on the head coach's very public statements of his player's abilities, his recruiting successes, his team's experience, and his team's coming together. This is what really hurts as a BU backer. I put all sorts of trust in the comments from the head coach, and feel I am being fed a fantasy story as the seasons unfold. Fool me once.....

Oh well, lets hope these BU players go in a new direction in the Valley this year, or, that next season JL will figure out how to get his players to consistently perform to his, their, and our exceptations.
 
doug shank's crossover said:
Coach was very direct and angry in his post game comments with Dave Snell. I've never heard him so frustrated. Paraphrasing, Coach Les said that he needed players who would compete....that he'd start 2 Frosh. and Ryan Phillips if that's what it takes. He also said that the University treats them (the players) too well for "this kind of performance". Words like embarrassed and humiliated were used.

As the Valley season begins we may very well see either new energy from the regular starters, or new starters altogether.
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That's a good thing. Maybe some of these players need a good kick in the behind to get going. And because of this it would not shock me to see this team win 12 or 13 conference games this year.

However, they still were predicted to finish sixth by most "experts", so we'll see where they end up finishing compared to the predictions.

I know some are going to blame the coaching style for not getting this team ready to play, but sometimes players think they are just too talented for their own good. This "dressing down" of the players by Les is nothing personal, and not a sign that Les is going "Bobby Knight" on the team. Sometimes a little yelling and screaming is most effective when players get lulled into a false sense of "friendship" with the coach. And then when the coach shows a side of himself that they don't normally see, that sometimes lights a fuse into the team.

For the sake of this season, let's hope it did just that!
 
dogsrus said:
Careful.....don't question every little move he makes. Just sit back, be quiet and let the season unfold. At seasons end THEN you have a small window of opportunity to go over what went wrong.....but then its on to the new recruits and all the potential.
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Dogsrus, are we going to post snide remarks everytime the poor guy (Les) loses a game? It's profoundly unfair to evualuate a team this early in the season! If we are 3-6 halfway through the Valley schedule, then by all means have at it. Better yet, use the whole summer to gripe if we take two steps back this year. But we're NOT THERE yet!

Many teams have had mediocre non-conference records only to go on and do some significant damage in the conference. Let's wait at least through 5 to 10 games in the Valley, then we can make a better call on whether things are progressing in the right direction or not.
 
BUconnorD said:
Sending it out there, who is it who took away the teams jerseys and they had to earn them....it very well could be a movie, haha
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Actually, I think something along those lines is happening. Taylor Brown tweeted a bit ago: "On the floor ready to go at 6:30 AM tomorrow at Haussler. No BU gear.!!!! NOOOOOOOO!! **** we gotta start winning again"

So.. good call, Connor! :)
 
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