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Could Cal Davis be the next Florida Gulf Coast?

if we had Corey Hawkins, Tyler Les, Tyler Brown and the rest of the players Jim was going to land - then it is quite possible that Remy Abell would have been one of the best guards in the MVC yet would have hated sitting the bench behind them ...who knows - but not a bad problem to have - too many great scoring guards that you can't play them all!

Current 3-PT shooting:
Tyler Les 51%
Corey Hawkins 53%
Tyler Brown 45.4% (first year at ISU)
Remy Abell 41%
The very best we have currently - 33-35%
 
tornado said:
if we had Corey Hawkins, Tyler Les, Tyler Brown and the rest of the players Jim was going to land - then it is quite possible that Remy Abell would have been one of the best guards in the MVC yet would have hated sitting the bench behind them ...who knows - but not a bad problem to have - too many great scoring guards that you can't play them all!

Current 3-PT shooting:
Tyler Les 51%
Corey Hawkins 53%
Tyler Brown 45.4% (first year at ISU)
Remy Abell 41%
The very best we have currently - 33-35%
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that's all speculative though??¦.nobody knows how it would have ended up
 
I'll admit that I bought into the "Jim Les will never make Bradley a better than 4th place team" argument. I'll admit that I was open to going a different direction with hopes that a championship team could be built. Clearly, the opposite has happened. Now if you ask me would I rather have a 4th/5th place team than a last place team, the answer is of course, yes. Whoever the new coach is, my expectation will also be for him to build a championship team, regardless of where he is starting. I'm of the belief that if you aren't efforting a championship program, then you're just going through the motions.
 
Old Coach said:
I'll admit that I bought into the "Jim Les will never make Bradley a better than 4th place team" argument. I'll admit that I was open to going a different direction with hopes that a championship team could be built. Clearly, the opposite has happened. Now if you ask me would I rather have a 4th/5th place team than a last place team, the answer is of course, yes. Whoever the new coach is, my expectation will also be for him to build a championship team, regardless of where he is starting. I'm of the belief that if you aren't efforting a championship program, then you're just going through the motions.
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exactly
 
That assumes a championship would not have happened if we had kept Coach Les. To quote lefty, "that's all speculative though".

The majority of fans, and, to his credit, the Athletic Director wanted to give Jim another year, and that is what should have happened. The administration has said they did not hold him responsible for the disappointing 2010-11 season. So basically he was fired for his previous 5 seasons, which were all winning seasons averaging 20 wins per year.
Whenever major changes like this are made by individuals with vendettas, and who make the decision purely for personal reasons, the result is almost always bad.
I said in 2011 that I believed Coach Les was as capable of rebuilding the program after that injury year as anyone else, and I still believe he would have with the return of the injured players, the superb recruiting class he had, along with the transfer of Corey Hawkins.
And now he has built a championship team elsewhere out of nothing, while Bradley languishes in last place with the worst RPI in their history. This is all due to irreversible changes made by a President in 2011, and who assumed she had the Midas touch to create a winning program just by hand picking her own new coach, when she actually didn't know what she was doing. The damage was done, and we can't go back now. I know it irks people for me to remind them that I predicted all this would happen with uncanny accuracy, and it will continue unless things are corrected as soon as possible.
 
It doesn't irk me. The fact is we don't know if we would be competing for a championship or not if those recruits came to BU or not

I'm sure we wouldn't do worse than now though
 
lefty said:
It doesn't irk me. The fact is we don't know if we would be competing for a championship or not if those recruits came to BU or not

I'm sure we wouldn't do worse than now though
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One thing for sure, we wouldn't have three quarters of the Civic Center empty at game time.
 
A couple remarkable stats DIRECT from NCAA official statistics page
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/team/152
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143


Team shooting
#1 in Division I - UC-Davis 46.3% from 3-pt
#2 - is Idaho at 42.3% a full 4 points behind!!!!

Individual 3-pt shooting
#1 in Division I - Corey Hawkins 52.8% from 3-pt range
#2 is Quincy Taylor of Longwood at 46.8% - a full six points behind Corey!!



amazing how well they shoot and how far above the closest competitor!!
 
I am not as plugged in as most of you guys are to the last 20 years of Bradley BB. Based upon listening to games and the way the team performed, I thought that under Coach Les Bradley was headed in the right direction. Now look at how well UC Davis is doing under Coach Les.

Why did Bradley give Coach Les his walking papers? Can someone clue me in?

Why in the heck we would hire a coach like Coach Ford over Jim Les is way beyond me. Les was a winner on the court, off the court and as the leader of our team. I always saw him as a class act. Am I missing something?
 
pfcmsh said:
Why did Bradley give Coach Les his walking papers? Can someone clue me in?..
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Everyone knows there was a battle of personalities between Dr. Glasser & Jim Les, and that for at least a full year before he was fired,
the President was trying to get him fired and did just about everything she could to make it happen
...from denying recruits he wanted to forcing his own assistants out and hiring replacement assistant coaches that were not of his choosing.
With the help of a favorable Board that kinda looked the other way on a lot of her moves (thus enabling some very bad decisions
that now have Bradley in bad financial state as well as being terrible in virtually every sport) she was able to pull it off
in spring 2011 and then they bungled the search & hiring process and bungled the proper steps on the buyout - entangling the new coach as well as the University in lawsuits & threats of other lawsuits, some that still have yet to all get settled.
By then Bradley was not as appealing of a spot for potential coaching candidates (nor players/recruits), that many came or interviewed or were contacted about the job, but then turned it down after hearing all the details - thus forcing Bradley to really go down the list and hire a lot less attractive of a candidate than they had initially aimed for.
Some will dispute this account but the facts are there. Since 2011 - every single alibi that was used to fire Les (losing, playing on Thursday, off-the-court issues, can't use injuries as an excuse, attendance was slightly down, etc...) is now many times worse, yet amazingly, we hear alibis and spin - especially from the media that things are getting better, and that those who made all these bad decisions have actually done a great job

There was once a day when a home game vs. Indiana State or Evansville were automatic wins .. now we have to play the best game of the year to expect to get a win in such a game, and if we don't the media says we played good anyway and lost because of injuries.

BTW - in the FIRST EIGHT seasons Jim Les was here - he won the HOME game vs. Indiana State EVERY time..
and all eight were by double digits!!!!
 
pfcmsh said:
I am not as plugged in as most of you guys are to the last 20 years of Bradley BB. Based upon listening to games and the way the team performed, I thought that under Coach Les Bradley was headed in the right direction. Now look at how well UC Davis is doing under Coach Les.

Why did Bradley give Coach Les his walking papers? Can someone clue me in?

Why in the heck we would hire a coach like Coach Ford over Jim Les is way beyond me. Les was a winner on the court, off the court and as the leader of our team. I always saw him as a class act. Am I missing something?
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Les seemed to be a great guy and a great ambassador for the university. He was an average coach with a great run in 06. He seemed to get out coached in games and pick up silly technical fouls.

I don't think an average coach should have got fired with multiple years left on his contract and no real chance to utilize new facilities that he helped raise.

Jim should have been given another year or 2 to right the ship. Had he done that and I think he would have. We wouldn't be in this position.

However the people of peoria are interesting and have a strange perception of how things should be.

This got Jim Molinari and Jim Les fired too early.
 
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