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Dave Reynolds' preseason MVC picks

tornado said:
again -- I come back to the same question I have posed several times for these guys, and I haven't seen an answer yet...

If the sole reason BU keeps getting graded DOWN to 6th & 7th place is BU's lack of returning experience in the post, then why in the heck are they so giddy about Wichita State, Indiana State, SIU, and even Creighton themselves.

I think simple common sense sees that none of those other teams has much more than we have in the paint. Certainly InSU and Wichita are very similar in that sense to BU....guard heavy but lose most of their frontcourt and post experience.
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Who says that lack of returning talent in the post is the sole reason BU keeps getting downgraded (to use your phrase) ?

As to your comment about returning experience in the post for WSU and CU, I'd point out that they both return their starting Centers...
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
Who says that lack of returning talent in the post is the sole reason BU keeps getting downgraded (to use your phrase) ?

As to your comment about returning experience in the post for WSU and CU, I'd point out that they both return their starting Centers...
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So do we! Will Egolf was our starter until he was injured albeit a short period of time and we also return our guy who started occasionally and usually played the big minutes, super senior Sam Singh.
 
Don't know if these statistics mean anything, or if they are just abstract numbers.:confused:

Here are the 08-09 stats for all returning players, and, PPG and RPG for just returning forwards and centers, for arguably the top 6 MVC teams for 2009-10:
(I counted AW's stats from 07-08 in BU's totals)

............Returning..Minutes..Rebds.....Points......F&C.......F&C
............Players.....Per GM...Per GM...Per GM......PPG.......RPG
UNI........ 9........... 190.9..... 28.2.......64.5.......28.9.......18.1
CU......... 8........... 143.9.....22.2....... 50.7.......21.9.......14.3
BU......... 9........... 188.7.....24.0....... 63.3.......13.1.......8.9
ISU........ 6........... 112.5..... 18.8.......36.4.......10.3.......9.5
SIU........ 7........... 126.9..... 18.4.......42.1.......16.7.......10.3
WSU.......7............134.1.....19.5.......44.7.......16.3.......10.5

UNI and Bradley return the most players with the most game time in 2008-9.
UNI and CU return the most rebounds and points from front court players (F&C's). It does show BU's historic dependence on guard play vs post play.

Looks like ISU(B-N), SIU, and WSU will have to depend more on new players in 2009-10 and return fewer points/rebounds from last season than UNI, CU and BU.

I can't evaluate teams additions or returning redshirt frosh...I'll leave that up to others.

It does make a case for BU to have a chance to finish higher up than 6th or 7th based on returning players.
 
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AZ, this is a point I have made showing numbers and stats on several occasions,
that BU returns more players, more minutes, more scoring and more years of experience
than all but ONE Valley team. And yet despite the fact that DJA hasn't read it, virtually every single preseason guide
has used the lack of returning experience as a factor for placing BU 5th-6th-or-7th...
 
tornado said:
AZ, this is a point I have made showing numbers and stats on several occasions,
that BU returns more players, more minutes, more scoring and more years of experience
than all but ONE Valley team. And yet despite the fact that DJA hasn't read it, virtually every single preseason guide
has used the lack of returning experience as a factor for placing BU 5th-6th-or-7th...
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I read it. My comment above was in response to your statement that Bradley's rating was SOLELY due to lack of post experience (I believe other factors are at work as well).
 
It really doesn't matter what the preseason projections are because most of them are wrong each year. If I remember correctly the MVC POY 2 years ago wasn't picked for any preseason awards. Very few preseason all conf. picks actually make it due to someone else having a great year. And the last 2 seasons the conf. winner has been someone picked to finish in the bottom half of the conf. so maybe I like our chances.
All of the Valley teams will be improved w/ the exception of EU which will just make it harder for 1 team to dominate the Valley. I really believe that NIU & CU should be considered the front runners but would not be surprised to see anyone of 6 teams finish at the top. This should make for 1 great MVC tournament this year.
 
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