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Don Nelson to return for one more season

Seems like he did pretty well to me.

"Anyone who watched the Memphis Tigers play this year knows that Derrick Rose is a freak athlete, but nothing makes that more apparent than watching him participate in offensive drills again token defense. He may be the best athlete in basketball, casually attacking the basket at a speed that most players can??™t even achieve in game settings. He didn??™t shoot the ball particularly well, but made a few NBA threes and showed off his amazing repertoire of crossovers and change of direction moves. The fact that he not only participated, but went hard on every repetition is probably a good sign"
 
onetuffshot said:
If the Warriors were smart they would get rid of their very mediocre coach and keep Patrick.
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Yeah you definitely want to keep a player that averages 1.7 ppg for his "career" and dump a coach. I don't think that POB was given much chance to succeed there, but a good player would have at least shown some NBA skill from time to time and dominated the D-league. POB is done in GS, and I think he'll be lucky to have a job in the NBA next year. If they (GS) were smart (and they showed that they aren't by taking him so high), they would have tried hard to trade him after they signed Donnie. Nelson is far from a great coach, but he's entertaining and players like him. Putting people in the seats should be the #1 priority for GS. They are very far from challenging for an NBA title.

And about Rose, Gordon was the most athletic player in his draft too. Sounds far too similar for my liking. Beasley is a freak.
 
Nelson is like a lot of coaches who have had success, they are sometimes resistant to adapt and change, and assume that because their style worked for them in the past, it will work again any time and with any team. I think that philosophy is less true now than ever because players tend to be more selfish, and unidimensional today. The coaches who have success in the NBA now are more commonly the ones who adapt their style to the personnel they have. Phil Jackson, and a few other coaches have shown themselves to be able to adapt and contnue to be successful with different teams.
Coaches like Larry Brown and Nelson seem less flexible. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Nelson have less success again this coming year, and leave before his contract runs out like Brown did with the Knicks.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Do you think someone said the same thing 20 years ago? Its hilarous to me that people think POB would be so much better if it werent for Don Nelson. Take a look at his resume, Im pretty sure he knows what he is doing.

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/don_nelson/
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This is simply a matter of a player (POB) being with the wrong team and the wrong coach. If POB gets with the right team and coach he could be a very effective back-up center and give 10-15 mpg, 6-9 ppg, and 4-6 rpg. Then, maybe after a few years he could be a relatively effective starting center by the time he's 28-30 years old.

I do think POB will be in the league with someone for the next 10 years or so. At 7' tall with average to slightly above average skills and athleticism he is better than a lot of centers who have made a career in the NBA :)
 
Braves4Life said:
This is simply a matter of a player (POB) being with the wrong team and the wrong coach. If POB gets with the right team and coach he could be a very effective back-up center and give 10-15 mpg, 6-9 ppg, and 4-6 rpg. Then, maybe after a few years he could be a relatively effective starting center by the time he's 28-30 years old.

I do think POB will be in the league with someone for the next 10 years or so. At 7' tall with average to slightly above average skills and athleticism he is better than a lot of centers who have made a career in the NBA :)
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Dont get me wrong, I certainly hope POB does well, I just dont think you can blame a HOF coach for his shortcomings. If he were good enough to play and contribute he would be playing.
 
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I agree Lakeview. I saw a few Golden State games on TV this past season, and last season. Looking at the guys who play center for GS, I have to believe if POB can't play before them, you can't blame the coach. Always a good cop out though. Also, I hope POB will be in the NBA long after Don Nelson is gone, but gosh, Nelson has been in the league since before POB was born, so that wouldn't be a big surprise.
 
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Gosh, you would think that in 29 years of coaching in the NBA, that Nelson would win at least one title.
 
onetuffshot said:
Gosh, you would think that in 29 years of coaching in the NBA, that Nelson would win at least one title.
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Would you? What percentage of total NBA coaches have won a championship? Thier have been 62 NBA championships of those Phil Jackson, Red Auerbach have 17. Several other coaches like Pat Riley, Greg Popovich, Chuck Daley and Rudy Tomjanovich have at least two. So lets say maybe 35 coaches ever have won an NBA championship out of hundrends maybe thousands of coaches all time. Maybe you would think he would have won at least one but it doesnt seem so easy to do. He is ranked 20th in winning percentage all time and second in all time wins so he must be doing a few things right.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Would you? What percentage of total NBA coaches have won a championship? Thier have been 62 NBA championships of those Phil Jackson, Red Auerbach have 17. Several other coaches like Pat Riley, Greg Popovich, Chuck Daley and Rudy Tomjanovich have at least two. So lets say maybe 35 coaches ever have won an NBA championship out of hundrends maybe thousands of coaches all time. Maybe you would think he would have won at least one but it doesnt seem so easy to do. He is ranked 20th in winning percentage all time and second in all time wins so he must be doing a few things right.
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Good imformation Lakeview, I have to agree with you, not bad to be in the the top 20% all time and 2nd in wins. I have a couple ?'s for you.
Whos #1 in in both?
Wheres Larry Brown rank in these mix.
 
Blame Who for POB

Blame Who for POB

With alot of people looking to blame for the short comings of POB. Lets take a realist look. He played at BU for only two years and didn't burn the house down with his play and his stats were nowhere as good as some who played before him! Most that never got a look from the NBA! I believe there are several facts we have to look at.
1. It was the Sweet 16 run BU put togather and the one game he had against Pitt.s big men that brought attendtion to him! Some how I have to believe most of that success was do to the JL and the coaching staff's game plans!!!!
2. GS drafting him that high, their mistake! But that year there was a short coming of Big Men and POB is 7'. Also if I remember right, JL was against him going to the NBA if he wasn't in the top 10 picked that year. If he hadn't been bene drafted 9th, then he may of returned to BU and it would of been good for both him and BU. (MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVILS) I don't blame him for taking the offer as most of us would!!
3. POB himself!! Some seem to point the finger at Don Nelson and GS! But both have given him chances to show he is deserving of the #9 pick and the money they have invested in him. They stayed with him through his contract
and didn't trade him, hoping he would come around and they would get a return on their money!
The truth of the matter is that POB was NO WHERE near ready for the NBA and should of stayed at BU! But it is what it is! Hopefully thing's will work out for him playing somewhere! If not I hope he invested his $ wisely!!!!!!!
 
POB should not have stayed at Bradley, he may never have had the chance to make that kind of money again. In addtion the training you get in the NBA even in practice is much better than playing against Sam Singh at Bradley.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
POB should not have stayed at Bradley, he may never have had the chance to make that kind of money again.
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Absolutely! While I hated to see POB go, he had to take the money. Isn't that why people go to college, to get an education to earn MONEY. Unless he was already weathy, he just had to go. All we fans can do is thank him for time he did spent here and wish him well.
 
Out of Bounce said:
The truth of the matter is that POB was NO WHERE near ready for the NBA and should of stayed at BU! But it is what it is! Hopefully thing's will work out for him playing somewhere! If not I hope he invested his $ wisely!!!!!!!
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In June of 2006 there were many NBA experts who thought he was ready and had the potential to be a very good NBA player. Even the executives who ran the Golden State Warriors believed that, and if they hadn't picked POB at #9 he would have been taken within the next 4 or 5 picks, probably by Seatle at #10 or New Orleans at #12.

It's easy for us to say he wasn't ready, based on his lack of production the last 2 years. But if given the right chances, I believe he could be well on his way to developing into a good NBA center. There is no question that the coaching style of Don Nelson has hurt POB's development. With the right team, he will get a real chance.

I am not worried about his financial future. He will get a nice contract somewhere this summer, and be playing pro ball for many years.
The going rate for backup NBA centers has been as much as $5 million a year. Remember the free agent centers from 2006--
Journeyman Joel Przybilla signed a $32 million, 5 year contract in 2006 with Portland.
Seldom-used backup center Nazr Mohammed signed with the Pistons in 2006 for 5 years at $5 million a year. He was traded for Primoz Brezec and Walter Herrmann in Dec., 2007 to the Charlotte Bobcats.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
POB should not have stayed at Bradley, he may never have had the chance to make that kind of money again. In addtion the training you get in the NBA even in practice is much better than playing against Sam Singh at Bradley.
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I believe I said, I would have jump at the money to! As for NBA practice, I don't know anything about that but I know that POB made one hell-of impovement in his play and strengh from his first year to his second. So something was going right for him during BU's practice's. But MAYBE he was at a end on what he could improve on at BU. Also lets remember Sam has come back from to major injurys that end meny players careers. Also there are meny NBA players that come out of college the size and player Sam is that go on to the NBA or across the sea and do good for themselfs.
I just hope for the best both POB, Sam and all the BU players.
 
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