8 guys playing significant minutes with a couple other guys also getting some minutes as well I would consider deep. I forgot about Heemskerk too. I don't think a good team plays more than 8 or 9 guys significant minutes. Starters need to get the most minutes, if they don't rhythms are thrown off, people get cold, I don't know I just wouldn't want that many playing. You always here teams that play more than that say they need to find a 8 or 9 man rotation to stick too. Playing too few guys isn't good, but neither is playing too many. I think an 8 or 9 man rotation is deep and effective.
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8 guys playing significant minutes with a couple other guys also getting some minutes as well I would consider deep. I forgot about Heemskerk too. I don't think a good team plays more than 8 or 9 guys significant minutes. Starters need to get the most minutes, if they don't rhythms are thrown off, people get cold, I don't know I just wouldn't want that many playing. You always here teams that play more than that say they need to find a 8 or 9 man rotation to stick too. Playing too few guys isn't good, but neither is playing too many. I think an 8 or 9 man rotation is deep and effective.
LittleBrave
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I have a feeling that Prosser will get good minutes next year, so he'd better be ready! I've never seen him play, but there's some hype about him.
If JP gives us more production than SS this year, we look decent on the inside.
If JP gives us more production than SS this year, we look decent on the inside.
Buesch N Chips
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As a high school player he really dominated. He was able to be the biggest player on the floor, and also be the best passer and pretty much one of the quickest guys to the other end. The problem is, he now has to do the same thing, and gain about 75 pounds. Skills wise, he can be the 5 we are looking for in terms of nose for the ball, passing ability, ability to finish around the basket. Very similar to the situation we have with Will. Hopefully he gains the weight to dominate in the paint for the next 4 years. In my opinion, I think any attempt to make him a perimeter player will fail.
SaintLouBrave22
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I hate to keep throwing it back to comparisons to Creighton, but in their tournament championship seasons, at times they were playing 12 guys...
And I believe their 9th man actually won a tournament MOP award (Motz)
Well I've looked up the tournament stats for the last 3 tournament championship years for Creighton. 8 guys played more than 10 minutes with a ninth guy getting about 5 to 9 minutes with 1 more getting 3-4 in all 3 years. Only 10 men played with only 8 getting significant minutes. In the regular season in 04-05 for Creighton they played 8-9 guys significantly in every box score I've looked at, and only 10 guys total still. I'm not sure were your getting your numbers. Also Motz played the most minutes of anyone off the bench in the tourny in 2005 for Creighton.
And even if it were true, I strongly disagree with a 12 man rotation as being the most effective approach, because I have not seen much success on a regular basis from teams who do it. I believe an 8-9 man rotation with maybe another guy getting about 5 minutes or less is the most effective.
SaintLouBrave22
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I wasn't trying to state in terms of effectiveness really, BUT I just do not think that even if our team was hitting on all cylinders that we could outlast 3 solid teams in 3 days playing 3 or more players 30+ each game...
And with the lack of contributions we are receiving from Singh and Eastman as being 2 of the only 3 we right now are using off the bench is alarming...
All I was really trying to get at with the discussion is that Altman has figured out how to play more than the average coach AND still get quality play come MVCT time from them, all each relishing and knowing their roles - thus why they have won the event more than anyone else.
I thought we were talking about next years team being deep, and then got into our philosophies of what deep is, how it should be used, and how JL will use next year's team. But if your talking about this year, then I 100% agree.
We play 8 guys this yes, but 2 of them play filler minutes. We really are playing 6 guys who significantly contribute. No this team in not deep at all this year, we are in complete agreement on that. It will definitely make a run in St. Louis tough.