Evansville @ Bradley Post Game 77-76 BU!

[lefty]

I completely agree, lefty, and that's what I said in my post.
But sometimes we forget how good we have things here, and post more to object and complain. I am just encouraging posters to tell some of the things they like about the game experience. So many people put in a lot of work at the games, most of them don't get paid like the band, cheerleaders, game management crew, stats crew, and many more.

I have not criticized any of the ones you mentioned...I'm just messin now.....Opposing coaches always talk about our attendance at the Game day Luncheons .....but we still need to rebound better and play better D

 

[Chico]

Completely agree Coach. This is a great board, even though I disagree with a lot of posters, and they disagree with me. BU basketball is the only show in town this time of year and the kids are busting their tails, win or lose. Please don't everybody throw their BU shirts away.

 

[TheHeemyMonster]

He's fast. And he also has a number zero on his uniform, and "zero" rhymes with "hero". Unfortunately, there are better players than Cole-Scott (Austin, Collins, and even possibly Egolf), so I can't figure out why he gets so much court time.

well considers austin collins and egolf are big men , they really shouldnt have any effect on 5'10 cole-scotts playing time especially since jim les doesnt play more than 1 big man at a time.

 

[Buesch N Chips]

I completely agree, lefty, and that's what I said in my post.
But sometimes we forget how good we have things here, and post more to object and complain. I am just encouraging posters to tell some of the things they like about the game experience. So many people put in a lot of work at the games, most of them don't get paid like the band, cheerleaders, game management crew, stats crew, and many more.

You should hear the guy in section 9. Sits there with his arms folded when things are going well, then as soon as something goes wrong he thinks the whole section wants to hear what Les is doing wrong.

 

[basketball nut]

I agree Bradleybrave, Jim needs better substitution patterns with his bigs.
We also need to utilize two bigs at the same time as much as possible depending on matchups.

For the sake of a debate, I would prioritize the minutes accordingly:

1. Matt Salley
2. Sam Singh
3. Rashad Austin.
4. Will Egolf- people on this board will probably disagree with this, but Will shows me more right now than our 7 footer but we are not talking major minutes with a priority this low.. Also ranking Will above DC to get game time experience to Will which should pay dividends in the future.
5. David Collins- he has shown me NOTHING right now....4-5 minutes tops to rest the other players in this rotation. Adjust DC's minutes upward if he shows improvement.

These prioritizations can and should change depending on performance.

Great perception to what the team needs inside. For those that think DC did so great they either were not at the game or were sitting a lot closer to the action then I was. In his 5 minutes he got 0 rebounds and for the most part just stood around watching everyone elso hustle to the ball. the 1 rebound he should have had he lost out of bounds. On D I didn't see anything to make me want to play him. At least w/ WE you got some hustle and he was at least trying and he looked like he maight have soem idea of what was going on. Besides he has 3 more years and will be a very good player for us before he is done. He can hustle, jump and may very well turn into an inside presence that would be an added bonus

 

[Dubl R 1]

Great perception to what the team needs inside. For those that think DC did so great they either were not at the game or were sitting a lot closer to the action then I was. In his 5 minutes he got 0 rebounds and for the most part just stood around watching everyone elso hustle to the ball. the 1 rebound he should have had he lost out of bounds. On D I didn't see anything to make me want to play him. At least w/ WE you got some hustle and he was at least trying and he looked like he maight have soem idea of what was going on. Besides he has 3 more years and will be a very good player for us before he is done. He can hustle, jump and may very well turn into an inside presence that would be an added bonus

DC did look lost again against UE, more on offense thought to me. He was trying to set ball screens, except the ball had already been swung to another player.

The thing is though, everybody played again for the first time in a long time and we won. Despite the bad games that Egolf and DC have had, when they play a few minutes and spell some guys, BU's record is better. To me that's all that counts, doesn't matter how you win, or how ugly it is. When these guys play minutes, BU's record is better.

 

[ph]

The thing is though, everybody played again for the first time in a long time and we won. Despite the bad games that Egolf and DC have had, when they play a few minutes and spell some guys, BU's record is better. To me that's all that counts, doesn't matter how you win, or how ugly it is. When these guys play minutes, BU's record is better.

Good post
Addition by subtraction, but it works.

The last 3 games we have used our bigs the most, have been our last 3 W's.

Personally I think it works because, once again, we used bigs to rest TW.

 

[shaunguth]

In all fairness, I think that TCS's current pt is largely a result of Ruff's injury.

Well, if that's the case, then Ruff's injury has indeed cost us games! Many people around here believe it hasn't cost us that much because Sam is running the show, but if it's TCS that has gained the most then there is no question that the injury has cost this team since he has done NOTHING to show he deserves the playing time.

 

[shaunguth]

Great perception to what the team needs inside. For those that think DC did so great they either were not at the game or were sitting a lot closer to the action then I was. In his 5 minutes he got 0 rebounds and for the most part just stood around watching everyone elso hustle to the ball. the 1 rebound he should have had he lost out of bounds. On D I didn't see anything to make me want to play him. At least w/ WE you got some hustle and he was at least trying and he looked like he maight have soem idea of what was going on. Besides he has 3 more years and will be a very good player for us before he is done. He can hustle, jump and may very well turn into an inside presence that would be an added bonus

Yes, but the fact remains that DC's offensive and rebounding production are on pace and/or exceeding that of our starting center if DC were to get the minutes the mighty Salley is getting. I'm very much looking forward to watching Egolf progress over the next three years since he was probably the one I was most intrigued by over the summer. However, he has most definitely not shown me anymore than DC at this point. In fact, I would put him right alongside TCS at this point and that's not a good place to be in my book.

 

[BradleyBrave]

Well, if that's the case, then Ruff's injury has indeed cost us games! Many people around here believe it hasn't cost us that much because Sam is running the show, but if it's TCS that has gained the most then there is no question that the injury has cost this team since he has done NOTHING to show he deserves the playing time.

We all know that TCS playing 5-10 minutes a game hasn't been the reason we've lost. One doesn't even need to watch the games to know that. Look at a box score and you'll figure out real quick why we're 2-5 in league play, and it has little to do with Dan Ruffin's absence or any of his replacements.

 

[shaunguth]

We all know that TCS playing 5-10 minutes a game hasn't been the reason we've lost. One doesn't even need to watch the games to know that. Look at a box score and you'll figure out real quick why we're 2-5 in league play, and it has little to do with Dan Ruffin's absence or any of his replacements.

5-10 ? TCS is averaging 15 minutes a game starting with VCU. It's been stated by others here that TCS' minutes are a direct result of Ruffin's injury. He is shooting 29% from the field, has taken more shots than Salley, shooting 21% from 3-pt., is averaging under 4 points and 1 rebound per game. Again, TCS has done NOTHING to show he deserves playing time, other than having Ruffin on the bench.

 

[BradleyBrave]

5-10 ? TCS is averaging 15 minutes a game starting with VCU. It's been stated by others here that TCS' minutes are a direct result of Ruffin's injury. He is shooting 29% from the field, has taken more shots than Salley, shooting 21% from 3-pt., is averaging under 4 points and 1 rebound per game. Again, TCS has done NOTHING to show he deserves playing time, other than having Ruffin on the bench.

Well, unless you're looking to give Ryan Phillips some time on the perimeter, we don't have any other options at the guard position. Sam, Andrew, and Jeremy can't play all 40 minutes of every game.

 

[shaunguth]

Well, unless you're looking to give Ryan Phillips some time on the perimeter, we don't have any other options at the guard position. Sam, Andrew, and Jeremy can't play all 40 minutes of every game.

I understand that. I'm simply stating that TCS' minutes have grown while his game has not and yet there are people that say Ruffins' injury has not cost us any games. I beg to differ when TCS is on the floor and Ruffin is on the bench! I personally believe Ruffin would probably be a little more productive than TCS! Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[BradleyBrave]

I understand that. I'm simply stating that TCS' minutes have grown while his game has not and yet there are people that say Ruffins' injury has not cost us any games. I beg to differ when TCS is on the floor and Ruffin is on the bench! I personally believe Ruffin would probably be a little more productive than TCS! Maybe I'm wrong?

Ruff would be much more productive than TCS, but Sam would then be less productive because his minutes would be nearly cut in half. But you know as well as I do that we've lost 4 league games because we didn't rebound, 3 of those at home. In the 8 games (VCU included) that Ruffin has missed, we should have won at leat 5 of them, Ruff or no Ruff, TCS or no TCS.

 

[BradleyBrave]

Shaunguth,

Ruffins' injury, without a doubt, has cost us games. He's our best player.

Rick

It's cost us 2, maybe 3, out of 8 games. The rest have been lost because of terrible defense and even worse rebounding. Drake is 3-0 without their best player, who's also the league's leading scorer. I'm sick of hearing the excuses.

 

[basketball nut]

Ruff would be much more productive than TCS, but Sam would then be less productive because his minutes would be nearly cut in half. But you know as well as I do that we've lost 4 league games because we didn't rebound, 3 of those at home. In the 8 games (VCU included) that Ruffin has missed, we should have won at leat 5 of them, Ruff or no Ruff, TCS or no TCS.

SM would be less productive but not to the extent that TCS has been. The other thing you get w/ DR is another ball handler at the end of a game like Drake. As I said before JC would have been inbounding to SM & DR and we would have not had the 2 crucial turnovers that cost us that game. It was simply a case of in experience on the part of TW. I may be wrong but at this time next year he wouldn't make that same mistake. I was very impressed w/ the way he bounced back against EU Sat. night especially his intensity not to mention his shooting wasn't to bad either.

 

[Da Coach]

It is absurd to think that Bradley should play as well without Ruffin as they would with him. I agree that Bradley would have won at least 5 or 6 more games with Ruffin, but no team will be a good or as competetive without their senior leader and leading scorer. Ruffin would have been, IMO, the Player of the Year in the MVC if he hadn't been injured.
No team, especially a midmajor team that doesn't have 4 and 5 star players waiting on the bench to get into the game, will be nearly as good without a player the caliber of Ruffin.

 

[Braves4Life]

It is absurd to think that Bradley should play as well without Ruffin as they would with him. I agree that Bradley would have won at least 5 or 6 more games with Ruffin, but no team will be a good or as competetive without their senior leader and leading scorer. Ruffin would have been, IMO, the Player of the Year in the MVC if he hadn't been injured.
No team, especially a midmajor team that doesn't have 4 and 5 star players waiting on the bench to get into the game, will be nearly as good without a player the caliber of Ruffin.

Agreed! Every team needs their starting "quarterback" to be effective and successful. Would the Patriots be in the Super Bowl without their MVP? Would the Chargers have been as competitive against the Pats if Rivers sat out? Would any successful NFL team have been as successful without ther starting QB? How would the Bears have fared without Rex Gr...........................(Oh, I won't go there :lol: )

 

[shaunguth]

SM would be less productive but not to the extent that TCS has been.

I hope not! That would certainly be a tall order. In fact, I would like to see SM continue to start and have AW come off the bench once Ruff comes back.

 

[ER3]

It is absurd to think that Bradley should play as well without Ruffin as they would with him.
No team, especially a midmajor team that doesn't have 4 and 5 star players waiting on the bench to get into the game, will be nearly as good without a player the caliber of Ruffin.

Yes, it is absurd to think that BU would be as good without Ruffin as they would have been with him. I don't think anyone seriously believes that...
However, it is more absurd that this BU team lost one player and went from a supposed NCAA-caliber team to one of the two worst teams in the Valley instantly...and it is equally absurd that some of you just continue to throw up the Ruffin excuse and accept this mess as if there is no way that this team could be expected to do anything except lose games until Ruffin comes back...
I'm tired of the Ruffin excuse...every year good players get hurt all over college basketball...and good teams just don't automatically go into the tank because of it.
You made the statement a while back in one of your 'no team can win without their best player rants'...something to the effect of "of course we are losing games...how do you think SIU would be without Falker or Drake would be without Josh Young?"
Well, Drake lost their best player...they certainly don't have any 4-star recruits sitting on the bench...and they are now 3-0 without him. so much for that theory...And we've all seen the Creighton example when they lost Funk for the entire season and still managed to win 18 or 19 games and make it to the NIT.
NCAA-caliber teams that are well-coached make adjustments and find a way to win games when they lose a key player...Unfortunately, as this season plays itself out, I am growing more convinced that we were never truly an NCAA-caliber team and that we are certainly not getting a very good performance out of our coaching staff this year.
There is still time for the coaching staff to redeem themselves this year, but it has to start tomorrow night...not next week, not when/if Ruff comes back.