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BradleyDU4
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That sure sounds like an NBA caliber star to me. Cant wait to boo him on Tuesday.
AW will be the player we all know he can be! It may not happen this year but I expect big things from him before he leaves the hilltop! Missing a year from active playing has really messed with his game. If you took a year off from any sport I'd like to see how you would react. I expect him to be better conditioned going into his senior year. He is not as explosive and that is the difference.
bigdaddystuck
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Overall??? I think that AW is a better shooter than eldridge. However I think that eldridge can take over games with his play on both ends of the floor. AW seems to be the more consistent player....hmmm. I'd take AW over eldridge for his more consistent play. But would say that Eldridge is the more dynamic player.
Different - Potential to be better IMO.
I think Warren is the better shooter. The question is on the defensive side of the ball, as OE turns guys over a lot and is considered (and rightfully so, I think) to be the stouter defender. I never quite know how to evaluate Warren's D. He's definitely long and sometimes creates huge problems for people... He also rebounds better than OE. They both seem prone to bad decisions at times, but I think OE is the better ballhandler. Speaking of decisions, though, AW is takes infinitely better shots than Osiris in my opinion. Every once in a while, when BU is trying to score, I wish I'd see AW take a couple of crazy shots though... I like both players a lot, and I think it's closer to a push than a lot of people would say-- OE's been NBA bound since HS afterall, while Warren was not a huge a prospect.
No.
Warren is a fairly one dimensional player right now...He is nowhere near the athlete that Eldridge is, so his upside is fairly limited.
He can be a great shooter when he has space, and that is a very valuable skill...but he is not athletic enough to create his own shot on a consistent basis, and he is not strong at all with the ball whenever there is contact on offense.
Put him on a wing and have him there to finish some drive-and-kick offensive sets, and he can excel...but run him into the lane and have him try to score in traffic, and bad things seem to happen more often than not...
AW is not selfish like King O! Sometimes I wish he was. As I said early on AW has the potential to be better. He has the tools but being out a year has taken a toll. AW will need dedicate his summer to nothing but conditioning and improving his game to have a career as exciting as King O's. King O does bring some heart to his game.
SFP, you keep bringing up conditioning, my question is - how many months does it take to get in condition to play, say, 30 minutes in a college basketball game. And even if you don't play for a year, it shouldn't matter if that's what you've played growing up and your career. I think it's something other than conditioning - JMO.
I'm not disputing that you have to want it type of attitude but if you do not think that a year off your feet type of conditioning is not playing a role then you are quite mistaken. Take a month off of aerobic activity and let's see how many laps you can run up and down a court. Those that have played ball also know that bball shape is different then being able to run 10Ks. He started off strong but he is now obviously hitting a wall. He should be able to start getting through that wall with the right conditioning real soon. What I am also saying, once he looks back at this year and knowing that it will be his last year, his conditioning program will go up a notch and so will that hunger. He will not be the first player for all this to happen to. The guy has a silky smooth game and with a little more hard work I believe he has the potential to be better. JMO!
I don't think it has anything to do with conditioning, I think he is hurting somewhere. There have been many instances where athletes don't tell their trainer or coaches about how they feel. Why?, because they want to play! If I were JL, he would sit the Evansville game and rest. Let DSE and MK play his position for this game and start to get ready for St. Louis.
I just can't agree. He's leading MVC guards in rebounding and goes into the paint to score and draw fouls. Has he had a couple of poor games? Yeah. Is he soft? I don't think so.
I can tell you that right now no one is more frustrated with AW's play than AW. After his late game this was his post on twitter...
Cmon 24 get it together!!!! 11:59 PM Feb 2nd from Echofon
He'll be okay, just hitting a slump that he will eventually break out of. Could be scary for other teams too if he breaks out of it heading into St. Louis.
Cmon 24 get it together!!!! 11:59 PM Feb 2nd from Echofon
He'll be okay, just hitting a slump that he will eventually break out of. Could be scary for other teams too if he breaks out of it heading into St. Louis.
houstontxbrave
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ER I have to disagree. Well with the the part where is isnt athletic enough to create his own shot. He had a very good game when it comes to getting the lane and scoring, creating shots and finishing.
Problem is he hasnt attempted to be a more drive/slash and score player in quite awhile this season. It is almost like he has decided he is going to put up contested 3's from the side and not even attempt to challenge the defense.
Other then that I agree he is soft towards contact anymore both offensively and defensively, he has made some very questionable decisions both passing the ball and defending (the intentional foul at SIU was maybe one of the most boneheaded plays I have ever seen). I do not buy the conditioning thing, but I do buy something is going on with Warren, either mentally or physically.
BTW I take O all day long over Warren. He might be selfish, show me a score who isnt, but he brings passion nightly. I do not see that from Warren nightly.