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Final score- Indiana State 85 Bradley 77
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I barely heard any boos, and I can't believe the fans were booing the players as much as they were just upset about the big halftime deficit. The fans were really cheering loudly at the start of the 2nd half, and it might have helped Bradley go on the 10-2 run to close the gap to 11 points in under 2 minutes.
Again, the late losses of Zek and Ville were noticeable.
Indiana State has 5 guards who are almost interchangeable, can handle the ball and pass well, and can shoot the three. Combine that with one big man who does his job and doesn't make many mistakes, and that's what makes them so dangerous. They basically play that 6-man rotation. They are not a great defensive team, they just beat teams by outscoring them.
By the way, if anything deserved booing it was that awful halftime program. What's the deal with that silly Kaboom skit with the blowup thing?
Again, the late losses of Zek and Ville were noticeable.
Indiana State has 5 guards who are almost interchangeable, can handle the ball and pass well, and can shoot the three. Combine that with one big man who does his job and doesn't make many mistakes, and that's what makes them so dangerous. They basically play that 6-man rotation. They are not a great defensive team, they just beat teams by outscoring them.
By the way, if anything deserved booing it was that awful halftime program. What's the deal with that silly Kaboom skit with the blowup thing?
A couple you left out... Andrew Warren was one of the best shooters in BU history. He was a Jim Les recruit and played for Les and Ford. But Nate Kennell was a Wardle recruit and ranks 2nd only to Crouch in 3 point FG's made in his career. Andrew Warren and Darrell Brown are tied for 4th behind Crouch, Kennell, and Zobrist.- https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/...BB_Record_Book_2023-24_-_Updated_11_15_23.pdf
(scroll down to page 16)
And Nate's career 3-point FG% of 41.2 was better than any of the players mentioned here, despite playing his entire career with the longer distance 3-point line. Ville wasn't bad either.
But you are right, IMO, in that the most pressing need is another pure shooter who can defend well enough to get playing time.
Almar is a terrific shooter, but today he couldn't get on the floor because he simply couldn't guard Indiana State's quicker, mobile guards.
houstonbrave
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DC you are slipping-Warren graduated after 2010-11 season and only played for Jim. Walt Lemmon played for Les and Ford.
This seems to be the same refrain every year. Atlason is that shooter, but he has some work to do defensively and he’s a four man. We need a guard that can do it. We could also use a point guard that can get to the bucket and score when needed. That may be Burch eventually, but he’s still growing too.
Davis is actually a good shooter this year too, I wish we’d run more plays for him and Atalson and have them on the floor together like earlier in the year when we shot really well. Hickman is shooting nicely too from three this year. Unfortunately Leons seems to have lost a little on his three point shot this year so far, as has Deen
Absolutely nailed it. And that’s not to say we’re bad at all this year, but to really elevate to the top we needed some of these things to go right and they didn’t.
Number one hurts, but is a given in today’s world for schools like Bradley. I actually think we’ve been luckier than most not losing some guys. Leons, Hickman, Mast until he graduated, Hannah have all stuck around. Some schools are decimated from transfers.
Ville and Mast we knew would be gone and in normal circumstances would be done anyway. Zek was the surprise that hurt, but you always have to be recruiting every spot now and not get caught flat footed recruiting. Indiana State lost a ton of good players from last year and yet here they are.
Bradley has one of the best fan bases attendance wise and most money in the MVC. We have to do better with transfers coming in. The strikeout this year hurts big time. Need better guards and guard depth in the Valley.
Yeah, you're right. The loss today numbed my mind, and affected my memory.
It was Walt Lemon and Dyricus Simms-Edwards who stayed and played for Ford after Jim left. My point was that we have had some great shooters since Jeremy Crouch, including a few who have been brought in by Wardle. But we could use another one or two.
tomahawk chop
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Will we failed miserably guarding the 3. Instead of switching on ball screens our defender tried to go around them which left their shooter wide open. Deen is really struggling on offense plus they continue to post him up down low on defense leading to easy baskets.Not having taller more athletic guards is a problem. We as a team just looked like we were not prepared to play against that team. We also have a bigger problem in losing one of are starting guards because quite frankly we were shorthanded to begin with and now really screwed without him. Too bad we did not bring in better portal players as right now we have a lot of guys sitting on the bench wasting space.
Should never boo your players.
bigjimmy
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Pretty sad to see these young men get booed by some fans at the half. Sure it was a disappointing half of basketball but they don't deserve that. Doesn't mean you can't be frustrated and disappointed for the 2nd straight game. As much as I love how hard he plays Duke needs to play with more awareness and be smarter with the ball. I realize right now that Meta is a square peg trying to fit into a round hole on defense but on offense he is the round hole, No one in the Valley can guard him. Get him the damn ball and play zone defense. And speaking of defense do we have to wait until the 2nd half to make any adjustments? Alright enough whining. For however long Conner is out we're going to need to figure some things out. Have to be interior based on offense and play mostly zone on defense. Going to have to throw Ellis into the fire and see what you got. Might have to play some of the walkons to help spell our thinning back court. The guys are going to need to regroup real quick with the game at Akron on Tuesday. 6-2 is still pretty good so go get em boys!
With Bradley now starting 0-2 in the Valley, Conference wins will be MUST wins because I believe to make the NCAA tourney, you must finish league play in the 4th spot or higher! Isn't that really the goal...Win Arch Madness and your in NCAA tourney!!!! So will see....it's still early and as was noted, Bradley lost its first 5 conference games in 2018-19 and still made NCAA tourney! We will see what this team is made of going forward! Will we see the 6-0 team come back and get hot at the right time when conference play resumes, or do we see an 0-2 Team that fizzles out of contention later this year?
tomahawk chop
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One other thing , the Braves club that hands out popcorn and soda was completely out of diet soda 15 minutes before the game plus they did not have the correct containers for pop corn. They need to go back to just Sprite and Coke and Diet coke to keep things moving better.
bradleyfan124
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One small positive note from the game...the sound system seemed to be alot better. After not receiving a response from my first email to Tchristie I sent a second email...same result.. so I sent a note to Bobby Parker.. stating the problem and how I had sent 2 emails to tchristie with no repsonse. You know the guy that is Associate AD in charge of Marketing and Fan Engagement that does not fan engage. He responded within 5 minutes and said they were working on it. I thanked him
Yes, you are right. It was much better. It was the first thing I noticed when i entered the arena- https://www.bradleyfans.com/forum/s...diana-state-85-bradley-77?p=513823#post513823
tomahawk chop
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Agree, it was much better.
Braves2006
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I could be wrong as I haven't heard tis take yet.... But I was under the impression that fans were booing the refs at half? Maybe not. but there were some calls that were suspect for sure. This team has a lot of work to do to get better for the rest of the conference schedule. It's never easy....