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Final: USF 61 Bradley 57
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This I agree with. If Geno went on a rant, everyone would think it was all in jest.
But there are ways a coach can impose discipline and get his points across. I believe that is what we saw with the vastly different staring lineup and player rotation, and I expect we'll see more of that.
Bradleyfan1
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TP.... Where would we be w/o TP?
OG.....JSWop....KDB.....XT I Still Like these 4.
Im worried about AF? hmmmm
Lets keep getting better.
Lets get some W's! I say the next 5 we win and I for one will feel much better.
OG.....JSWop....KDB.....XT I Still Like these 4.
Im worried about AF? hmmmm
Lets keep getting better.
Lets get some W's! I say the next 5 we win and I for one will feel much better.
wily coyote
Active member
Hard to build a team when you have to keep running off your mistakes but if you keep them your gonna get the same results. LOSSES. So I guess the only answer is better do a hell of a lot better job evaluating kids you can get. Look at what ISU red and Drake have done with all the new kids they've brought in. Somebody's doing something right and I don't think it's us.
I guess that's my point??¦.if he was he would play more??¦I think if he plays 12-14 minutes a game it's all we can expect...
In fact I agree with you. Just trying to lighten things up a little...
Some people enjoy "shooting the messenger". It goes on on plenty of the Boards...
lake Camelot
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Irony
peoriaspitfire
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Let's hope it's the MVC championship. Go Braves.
Buesch N Chips
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I'll bet some people banned from this site a few years ago asked the same question.....
tornado
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can you give me an example of any such fans being "attacked" or threatened, I have never seen it..
and if the fans were so unhappy a few years ago - why were 10,000-11,000 still showing up regularly to every game - twice what we're seeing now.
What's happening now is so totally unprecedented that there's nothing whatsoever to compare to.
As noted before, in the history of BU playing in the Civic Center - we've never had games with attendance of just 6000, but now that number and LESS are common occurrences...
Even from the 1940's thru the early 80's the crowds at the Fieldhouse were never in the 5000's - but again - we're now seeing some home crowds of just 2,000 and less up at Ren-Col.
It doesn't help that the media and some fans keep trying to minimalize how bad things are for BU basketball and where we're headed...and keep trying to fool fans into thinking this is the right direction. that this is just the bad economy or that it's because the students had classes or exams - LOL
By this time next year - the crowds will be 4000. When they are - guess who they'll blame - probably me for saying so and of course they'll try to blame all the people who have been fired.
Hey, I got a challenge - does anyone remember Feb. 1, 2011 - that was the historic "Snow Game" - because of a blizzard, the game was moved up several hours and virtually NOBODY was there - maybe a total of just a few hundred people...thus the walkup crowd was non-existent....
and yet guess what the attendance was???? It was OVER 8000!! (as Bradley beat Creighton & Doug McDermott - LINK
EIGHT THOUSAND - that meant nearly 8000 seats were already sold well before game time with an estimate 7,500 of those being SEASON TICKET HOLDERS' SEATS.
Even as recently as 2011-12, Kirk Wessler conceded BU's season ticket base was 7,500 - but now it is probably under 5500 - a loss of almost 30% in just TWO years.
In fact - check this out - note how incredibly negative Kirk Wessler was and how brutally critical he was in a season that we still won and drew almost 8500 to our worst games. -
...a season where we lost our two best players & LEADERS (imagine losing Walt & Tyshon) - and we still won as many in that season as Geno is averaging over the past three years - and we did it against a SOS that was way better than any of the past three seasons! LINK
and if the fans were so unhappy a few years ago - why were 10,000-11,000 still showing up regularly to every game - twice what we're seeing now.
What's happening now is so totally unprecedented that there's nothing whatsoever to compare to.
As noted before, in the history of BU playing in the Civic Center - we've never had games with attendance of just 6000, but now that number and LESS are common occurrences...
Even from the 1940's thru the early 80's the crowds at the Fieldhouse were never in the 5000's - but again - we're now seeing some home crowds of just 2,000 and less up at Ren-Col.
It doesn't help that the media and some fans keep trying to minimalize how bad things are for BU basketball and where we're headed...and keep trying to fool fans into thinking this is the right direction. that this is just the bad economy or that it's because the students had classes or exams - LOL
By this time next year - the crowds will be 4000. When they are - guess who they'll blame - probably me for saying so and of course they'll try to blame all the people who have been fired.
Hey, I got a challenge - does anyone remember Feb. 1, 2011 - that was the historic "Snow Game" - because of a blizzard, the game was moved up several hours and virtually NOBODY was there - maybe a total of just a few hundred people...thus the walkup crowd was non-existent....
and yet guess what the attendance was???? It was OVER 8000!! (as Bradley beat Creighton & Doug McDermott - LINK
EIGHT THOUSAND - that meant nearly 8000 seats were already sold well before game time with an estimate 7,500 of those being SEASON TICKET HOLDERS' SEATS.
Even as recently as 2011-12, Kirk Wessler conceded BU's season ticket base was 7,500 - but now it is probably under 5500 - a loss of almost 30% in just TWO years.
In fact - check this out - note how incredibly negative Kirk Wessler was and how brutally critical he was in a season that we still won and drew almost 8500 to our worst games. -
...a season where we lost our two best players & LEADERS (imagine losing Walt & Tyshon) - and we still won as many in that season as Geno is averaging over the past three years - and we did it against a SOS that was way better than any of the past three seasons! LINK
Sorry, Buesch, it was 180?° the other way around back then. In that case it was the messengers attacking those who didn't agree with them. The only people banned were for repeated violations of the rules, and they were warned many times. Nobody is forced to post here, but we expect those who do to follow a few simple rules.
I think most of us fans would be happy to continue being patient if we could see the pieces coming together, like most of the fans could see in 2004 & 2005. But I'd ike to hear from anyone who believes that is happening?
Even our own staff must not believe it, since they keep running off their own recruits every year, and even now they are preparing more of that by actively recruiting more 2014 recruits when we are apparently out of scholarships. Most fans would be OK with that if it was working, but the performance of this team has shown significant regression.
And can anyone give any examples from the history of our admins here, or prior to coming here that shows we have anyone with a history of building championship programs in the past? Just saying....fans aren't dumb.
tornado
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btw - Creighton's home attendance is up 30% from 2010,
Indiana State's is up 40%, SIU's is up, and even Chicago State's is up by over 100%
...this misinformation about how everyone is down is poppycock - folks will readily pay for good basketball - or even just improvement.
Indiana State's is up 40%, SIU's is up, and even Chicago State's is up by over 100%
...this misinformation about how everyone is down is poppycock - folks will readily pay for good basketball - or even just improvement.
I really want to see JS, OG, and WL on the floor at the same time. This gives Walt 2 three point threats which should give him a little more space to operate. It seems like there is no flow to the offense anymore, and until Bradley can figure out that swinging the ball and constant movement will create open shots, we are going to keep losing. USF seemed uninterested in taking any three point shots last night because they had plenty of open looks. I hope they don't let UNI get any air on the arc.
This may just be me, but this year it seems like Walt will take a play off or two and just not hustle at all. Against USF the ball was knocked into the back-court and Walt should have gotten there, yet he jogged back while two USF players hustled down the court to try to get the ball. I'm not saying he is the only one who does it, but his are the most memorable to me. Ford needs to bench him after those kinds of plays if he doesn't want to play every possession. I'm sure a lot of guys on the bench would play ever possession to their highest abilities and your best player shouldn't be an exception to that. By letting your senior leader get away with things like this sets a bad example for the younger guys on the team.
I think it's about time to start playing guys like SZ, AF, NW and JS extended minutes and see if someone can step up and become another scoring option. I would really like to see one of those guys get a lot more shot attempts.
This may just be me, but this year it seems like Walt will take a play off or two and just not hustle at all. Against USF the ball was knocked into the back-court and Walt should have gotten there, yet he jogged back while two USF players hustled down the court to try to get the ball. I'm not saying he is the only one who does it, but his are the most memorable to me. Ford needs to bench him after those kinds of plays if he doesn't want to play every possession. I'm sure a lot of guys on the bench would play ever possession to their highest abilities and your best player shouldn't be an exception to that. By letting your senior leader get away with things like this sets a bad example for the younger guys on the team.
I think it's about time to start playing guys like SZ, AF, NW and JS extended minutes and see if someone can step up and become another scoring option. I would really like to see one of those guys get a lot more shot attempts.
I think that it's simply a case of opinions differing.
I think Nate is neutral at best. He doesn't hurt anything by being in the game, but doesn't really do much either. I remember 2 occasions where Chris Perry used Nate as a turnstile, and a 3rd where he had to foul to keep from allowing another easy bucket. That said, his +/- for the game was zero, so give him 8-10 mpg and see what happens.
Big Mike
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How about giving him some minutes to build confidence before we close the books on him before his career ever starts? The statement you make can be made about any other player on the court at any given time....he gives a definite spark that's needed and hustles every minute in the game......you have a 5th year Sr five that gives you nether and still gets minutes? I can live with a guy giving me his all....cannot live with guys who really do not seem to care!