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Future BU opponents' non-conference schedules

WIU has not released their whole schedule....

but they did just reveal this.......

"Leathernecks to play in Cancun Challenge

Western Illinois’ men’s basketball team has committed to play in the Cancun Challenge tournament.
The Leathernecks will play four games in the tournament, including two in Cancun on Thanksgiving weekend.
Western Illinois will play at Missouri on Nov. 18, then travel to Wyoming on Nov. 20. The Leathernecks will then
head to Cancun to play Morgan State on Nov. 23 and North Florida or Prairie View A&M on Nov. 24.
Missouri, Wyoming, LaSalle and Providence are the host teams for the games in the U.S."
 
Oklahoma releases their non-conference schedule...
..pretty weak and their fans are complaining..

Coppin St., NC Central, Texas Southern, Gardner-Webb, Sac State, Central Ark, and Maryland Eastern Shore
could well give the Sooners SEVEN 300+ RPI opponents!!
All were well above 300 in RPI last year except Texas Southern who were close, but who have been well over 300 in 6 of the past 7 years.
...and they could get Chaminade in the Maui...

November
2: Northern State (exhibition)
12: Coppin State
15: North Carolina Central
18: Texas Southern
22-24: EA SPORTS Maui Invitational (Lahaina, Hawaii)

December
1: at Arkansas
5: at Arizona (Big 12/Pac-10 Hardwood Series)
9: Gardner-Webb
11: Oral Roberts
18: vs. Cincinnati (All-College Classic, Oklahoma City)
21: Sacramento State
30: Central Arkansas

January
3: Maryland Eastern Shore
 
St. Joseph's plays at Creighton in the non-conference portion of the season
http://www.sjuhawks.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/071910aac.html


and Tulsa plays Missouri State in Tulsa and Wichita State in Wichita
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/index.ssf?/base/sports-336/1279644262157660.xml&storylist=sports

So here's what we know...(help me out if I miss any)

Known non-conference opponents
BU - Duke, Utah, UMass, USC, NIU, Western Carolina, 2 more opponents in HOF Classic
CU - St. Joe's, Kennesaw St., Iowa St., BYU, Nebraska
DU - Iowa, Iowa St., Boise St., Colorado St., Cal St.-Northridge, Eastern Mich., Dartmouth, Chicago St., Texas Southern, Great Alaska Shootout-Southern Utah, Ball St./St. John's
UE - UIC, Butler, Austin Peay, Western Ky., Miami (OH), North Carolina, Air Force
ISU - SIUE, Ohio, UIC, UNLV, Jacksonville St. South Dakota, UNCW
InSU - Purdue, Wyoming, Ball St. ORU, DePaul, Loyola
MSU - Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Minnesota, SLU, Ark. St. Ark-LR, ORU, Cent. Ark.Belmont, Preseason NIT (?)
UNI - Iowa, Iowa St., N. Dakota, Morehead St., SC State, SIUE, UWM, TCU, LV Classic (IU, UNM, or Colo.)
SIU - New Mexico, Illinois, Austin Peay, Charleston Southern, Chicago State, SEMO, Western Kentucky, NIU, Chicago Inv. (poss. Purdue)
WSU - Tulsa, San Diego State, UMKC, Maui Inv. (several big name schools)
(BCS- opponents bolded)
 
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tornado said:
SIU - New Mexico
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at Illinois
Austin Peay
Charleston Southern
at Chicago State
SEMO
at Western Kentucky
Northern Illinois

In Chicago Invite: SIU will be guaranteed to play 2 out of 3 teams from pool of Purdue, Wright State and Richmond
 
tornado said:
St. Joseph's plays at Creighton in the non-conference portion of the season
http://www.sjuhawks.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/071910aac.html


and Tulsa plays Missouri State in Tulsa and Wichita State in Wichita
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/index.ssf?/base/sports-336/1279644262157660.xml&storylist=sports

So here's what we know...(help me out if I miss any)

Known non-conference opponents
BU - Duke, Utah, UMass, USC, NIU, Western Carolina, 2 more opponents in HOF Classic
CU - St. Joe's, Kennesaw St., Iowa St., BYU, Nebraska
DU - Iowa, Iowa St., Boise St., Colorado St., Cal St.-Northridge, Eastern Mich., Dartmouth, Chicago St., Texas Southern, Great Alaska Shootout-Southern Utah, Ball St./St. John's
UE - UIC, Butler, Austin Peay, Western Ky., Miami (OH), North Carolina, Air Force
ISU - SIUE, Ohio, UIC, UNLV, Jacksonville St. South Dakota, UNCW
InSU - Purdue, Wyoming, Ball St. ORU, DePaul, Loyola
MSU - Tulsa, Oklahoma St., Minnesota, SLU, Ark. St. Ark-LR, ORU, Cent. Ark.Belmont, Preseason NIT (?)
UNI - Iowa, Iowa St., N. Dakota, Morehead St., SC State, SIUE, UWM, TCU, LV Classic (IU, UNM, or Colo.)
SIU - New Mexico, Illinois, Austin Peay, Charleston Southern, Chicago State, SEMO, Western Kentucky, NIU, Chicago Inv. (poss. Purdue)
WSU - Tulsa, San Diego State, UMKC, Maui Inv. (several big name schools)
(BCS- opponents bolded)
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Top schedules among Valley teams (my perspective): (5 groups - strongest at top)

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Missouri St.
Wichita St.
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Evansville
SIU
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BU
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Indy St.
UNI
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CU
Drake
ISU (red)

This is subject to change with scheduling of more games before the season begins.
The bottom 3 schools are playing nobody, except for their MVC/MWC Challenge game.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
That seems about right, although I'd elevate Wichita St on a tier of their own. God Tier. When you get into Maui, you're doin' work.
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Maui isn't really something that a team "works" on getting. It's an invite type of thing. Wichita State earned that invite on merit, fan base, etc. The Maui is always one BCS team from the 6 leagues, Chaminade, and one "mid-major". This year Wichita got the mid-major invite from the people who run the event.

Also, Utah isn't a BCS school. Good schedule for Bradley all in all though.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
That seems about right, although I'd elevate Wichita St on a tier of their own. God Tier. When you get into Maui, you're doin' work.
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It would be tought to exclude Missouri St. from the top tier.

They play Ok. St., Minnesota, Tulsa, St. Louis, and probably a couple solid teams in the preseason N.I.T.
ORU and Belmont are not too bad either. Great job by the Bears in scheduling, and they're not even playing in the MVC/MWC Challenge.
 
ned said:
Maui isn't really something that a team "works" on getting. It's an invite type of thing. Wichita State earned that invite on merit, fan base, etc. The Maui is always one BCS team from the 6 leagues, Chaminade, and one "mid-major". This year Wichita got the mid-major invite from the people who run the event.

Also, Utah isn't a BCS school. Good schedule for Bradley all in all though.
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Wow. I guess I never knew Wichita St was such an "elite". ;)
 
MacabreMob said:
Wow. I guess I never knew Wichita St was such an "elite". ;)
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Nice Avatar MacabreMob (one of the best female characters in a long, long time. Both of the movies are good but the three books are even better). Anyway. I don't know if they are "elite" but they got invited by the Maui people.

Here is a list of the "mid-majors" since it went to the 6/1/1 format in 2004.

2004-BYU
2005-Gonzaga
2006-Memphis
2007-Princeton
2008-St. Joe's
2009-Gonzaga

Wichita will be the first MVC team to ever play in Maui.
 
ned said:
Nice Avatar MacabreMob (one of the best female characters in a long, long time. Both of the movies are good but the three books are even better). Anyway. I don't know if they are "elite" but they got invited by the Maui people.

Here is a list of the "mid-majors" since it went to the 6/1/1 format in 2004.

2004-BYU
2005-Gonzaga
2006-Memphis
2007-Princeton
2008-St. Joe's
2009-Gonzaga

Wichita will be the first MVC team to ever play in Maui.
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You answered my next question.

Also - Saw the 1st last night - can't wait for the next 2, Noomi's hot (I like that bad girl). :twisted:
 
MacabreMob said:
You answered my next question.

Also - Saw the 1st last night - can't wait for the next 2, Noomi's hot (I like that bad girl). :twisted:
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Lisbeth Salander. Wouldn't want to date her but would love to date her....ya know what I mean? :)

Thankfully I live in a city with GREAT independent/art movie theatres. Saw the second this past weekend. Better than the first (as was the book).

Now back to your regularly scheduled post.
 
ned said:
Here is a list of the "mid-majors" since it went to the 6/1/1 format in 2004.

2004-BYU
2005-Gonzaga
2006-Memphis
2007-Princeton
2008-St. Joe's
2009-Gonzaga

Wichita will be the first MVC team to ever play in Maui.
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Btw, looking at those teams... I got to thinking about it. They go to the 6/1/1 format in 2004-05. And the best of the Non-BCS conferences can likely be considered (by many in the drive-by media) as the Mountain West, ConfUSA, and A10. But the MVC certainly has shown it belongs in that group. And Gonzaga (and Butler) certainly have national respect and appeal. Anyway, let me get to the point (right?).... it takes the Maui people 7 years to get to inviting an MVC team. I can see them inviting CUSA member Memphis (especially the year they were in it), and I can see them inviting Gonzaga, and I don't have a problem with the Mtn West and A10 getting invited before the MVC because that's just the way things are.... but they go with Princeton? Princeton??? They were good in 2004, but in the 2007-08 season they stunk. But I suppose their NCAA Tourney success in 1996 and 1998 is what got them the invite in 2007-08? I say b.s. Whatever. And so now I look at this and think yea.... what a b.s. snubbery Maui has had for the MVC. I hope Wichita St goes in there and makes all of us MVC fans proud.
 
MacabreMob said:
Btw, looking at those teams... I got to thinking about it. They go to the 6/1/1 format in 2004-05. And the best of the Non-BCS conferences can likely be considered (by many in the drive-by media) as the Mountain West, ConfUSA, and A10. But the MVC certainly has shown it belongs in that group. And Gonzaga (and Butler) certainly have national respect and appeal. Anyway, let me get to the point (right?).... it takes the Maui people 7 years to get to inviting an MVC team. I can see them inviting CUSA member Memphis (especially the year they were in it), and I can see them inviting Gonzaga, and I don't have a problem with the Mtn West and A10 getting invited before the MVC because that's just the way things are.... but they go with Princeton? Princeton??? They were good in 2004, but in the 2007-08 season they stunk. But I suppose their NCAA Tourney success in 1996 and 1998 is what got them the invite in 2007-08? I say b.s. Whatever. And so now I look at this and think yea.... what a b.s. snubbery Maui has had for the MVC. I hope Wichita St goes in there and makes all of us MVC fans proud.
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Yes Mob but understand this. You can go to this event once every four years. So, really, Memphis and Gonzaga would probably go once every four years. That then narrows it down to TWO years where another mid-major goes. Now throw in Butler in the future and you are really looking at one, maybe two spots every four years.

I agree the Princeton thing was a bit odd but Princeton is a "name". It's not an "anti-MVC" bias. The league just hasn't had a team compete on the level of Gonzaga, Memphis, etc. Just the truth.
 
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