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Games Tuesday 3/30

Da Coach

Da Coach

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There are no NCAA games until Saturday's semifinals.

The NIT semifinals are tonight at Madison Square Garden-
Dayton vs. Mississippi at 6:00 pm CDT
North Carolina vs. Rhode Island at 8:00 pm CDT
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2010-03-30&c=cbi&refresh=60
Both NIT semifinal games are televides on ESPN2

In the CBI- No games tonight, but VCU leads St. Louis 1-0 after the first game of a best-of-three series which VCU won 68-56 Monday night.
Game 2 is Wednesday, 3/31, at St. Louis.

In the CIT- tonight is the championship game featuring Missouri State-
Pacific at Missouri State at 7:05 pm CDT
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?changed_via_selector=1&d=2010-03-30&c=ci

Here is info about the CIT championship game-
http://www.collegeinsider.com/tournament/

If anyone is aware of a TV broadcast, or a free video stream, let us know.

Here is the page that links to the video stream for the game-
http://b2tv.com/partner_members.asp?id=336
 
I checked the FoxCollegeSports channels available in Peoria on Comcast (FoxCollegeSports Atlantic, Central, and Pacific, as well as FoxSportsMidwest) and none of them are scheduled to show this game.
 
MSU is about to win their 24th game of the season. Not a bad 2nd year for Cuonzo Martin I would say. Didn't some people have them picked last in the MVC?
 
Rhode Island is giving UNC all they can handle and lead with 4:37 left.

It is amazing to watch NC Tarheels struggle to stop the mighty Rhode Island Rams down the stretch...

Must make Duke's success this year in the NCAA even more painful for the Tarheel Nation.

Wonder if UNC will be able to challenge Duke next year?
 
BradleyBrave said:
MSU is about to win their 24th game of the season. Not a bad 2nd year for Cuonzo Martin I would say. Didn't some people have them picked last in the MVC?
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Whoa...I thought you and a couple others here have said these eieio tournaments do not have any meaning, and that wins compiled in these meaningless postseason tournaments shouldn't even be counted.

There was cheering when Bradley turned down the CBI and CIT (both invited BU), and now Missouri State wins the CIT. Hey, does everyone realize that MSU finished 7th in the MVC, 8-10 in conference, and behind Bradley and Indiana State?

If Bradley had played, and gotten 4 home games in a row, they probably would have won the CIT, and would have finished 20-15! And people here would be downgrading the accomplishment!:D
 
Da Coach said:
Whoa...I thought you and a couple others here have said these eieio tournaments do not have any meaning, and that wins compiled in these meaningless postseason tournaments shouldn't even be counted.

There was cheering when Bradley turned down the CBI and CIT (both invited BU), and now Missouri State wins the CIT. Hey, does everyone realize that MSU finished 7th in the MVC, 8-10 in conference, and behind Bradley and Indiana State?

If Bradley had played, and gotten 4 home games in a row, they probably would have won the CIT, and would have finished 20-15! And people here would be downgrading the accomplishment!:D
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I was thinking the exact same thing haha!
 
BradleyBrave said:
MSU is about to win their 24th game of the season. Not a bad 2nd year for Cuonzo Martin I would say. Didn't some people have them picked last in the MVC?
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Da Coach said:
Whoa...I thought you and a couple others here have said these eieio tournaments do not have any meaning, and that wins compiled in these meaningless postseason tournaments shouldn't even be counted.

There was cheering when Bradley turned down the CBI and CIT (both invited BU), and now Missouri State wins the CIT. Hey, does everyone realize that MSU finished 7th in the MVC, 8-10 in conference, and behind Bradley and Indiana State?

If Bradley had played, and gotten 4 home games in a row, they probably would have won the CIT, and would have finished 20-15! And people here would be downgrading the accomplishment!:D
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I'm under Gag Orders. :roll: :evil:
 
UNC wins.

I consider it sorta controversial as an offensive URI player with the ball is tripped as time expires.... and no call.

Announcers remind us as it was a "Point of Emphasis" this year to call a foul EVEN if the foul was accidental to an offensive player with the ball and gets tripped.

UNC benefits from the swallow of the whistle. :roll:

For some reason, it appears Refs may have a tendency to call the last 4 minutes (and especially last minute) differently. They DON'T want to make a call determining the outcome of the game.
 
thefish7 said:
I great number of extremely questionable calls allow UNC to beat URI in the NIT semifinal.
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Yeah, but URI missed three FT's near the end of regulation as well. Make one of those, and we are not even having this conversation.

Hopefully the other A-10 team will knock off UNI on Thursday night once and for all.
 
Da Coach said:
Whoa...I thought you and a couple others here have said these eieio tournaments do not have any meaning, and that wins compiled in these meaningless postseason tournaments shouldn't even be counted.

There was cheering when Bradley turned down the CBI and CIT (both invited BU), and now Missouri State wins the CIT. Hey, does everyone realize that MSU finished 7th in the MVC, 8-10 in conference, and behind Bradley and Indiana State?

If Bradley had played, and gotten 4 home games in a row, they probably would have won the CIT, and would have finished 20-15! And people here would be downgrading the accomplishment!:D
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. These are two very decent tournaments. While they may not have the distinction of being the true "best of the rest" tournament like the NIT is, a great majority of the participants in both tourneys had 20+ wins coming into these tournaments. And both tourneys are full of solid mid-major teams that given the chance may have had a good shot of winning a game or two in the NCAA Tournament, especially considering Ohio University routed Georgetown with a worse record than over 20 of these teams!

I also do agree if a team chooses to decline an invitation to these tourneys if they do not feel that they fulfilled their yearly goals, but at the same time I certainly would have followed Bradley if they chose to participate again.

Hopefully both of these tourneys stick around awhile, especially if the NCAA discontinues the NIT to make way for NCAA Tournament expansion. And even if this doesn't happen, I see at least one if not both of these tourneys around for the long haul.
 
For the record, I agree. The fans at MSU have been deprived of postseason play for a while, including a couple years when they deserved to be in the NCAA tournament. Great to see them win the CIT, even if there will be some who question why they got home court advantage for every game.
 
Da Coach said:
For the record, I agree. The fans at MSU have been deprived of postseason play for a while, including a couple years when they deserved to be in the NCAA tournament. Great to see them win the CIT, even if there will be some who question why they got home court advantage for every game.
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Shouldn't be much question why because we were a #1 seed and #3 overall in the tournament...was told we got that based on RPI and non-con record per our AD. Based on the numbers the only road trips we were going to make were to S. Mississippi or Marshall but both lost.

Regardless of the name of the tournament it is a step in the right direction for our program.
 
I have never seen anything about the CIT using RPI or seeding teams based on any criteria.

The CIT's own website says they do not use seeding.

* There is no set bracket. The CIT uses the old NIT model of determining future round opponents following the conclusion of the previous round.
http://www.collegeinsider.com/tournament/2010.html

I think they do consider attendance, and of course, which team puts up the financial guarantee.
Bradley was a home team for all 4 games last year, and they were open about the reason being Bradley's ability to sell tickets, not RPI.


Here are the RPIs of the 16 team field, and MSU was the 5th highest, so if it was based on RPI, MSU wouldn't have been a #1 seed.
67-Marshall
78-Louisiana Tech
79-Portland
81-Fairfield
90-Missouri State
100-Harvard
101-Appalachian State
113-Southern Miss.
115-Creighton
118-Northern Colorado
122-Western Carolina
128-Pacific
158-George Mason
175-Loyola Marymount
177-Middle Tennessee
216-South Dakota
 
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