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Guarding the Three...

Da Coach said:
Bradley's 3-point defense has been near the best in the MVC all year. So what you are saying just isn't true.
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It was true tonight and it was true when we played UNI on their home court. Most of the rest of the MVC teams are not good 3 point shooting teams anyway, so by default that makes us better.
 
Coach-

I'm not questioning our season long effort at guarding the perimeter. All I'm saying is that 2 of the 4 threes that they hit in the last two minutes were uncontested shots. Maybe they would've went in with a hand in the face...but at least that hand would've been there...
 
georgethedog said:
And that is a great thing!
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Yes it is. I don't think Les looks to recruit tiny guards... I think he actually wants a athletically dominating team. I have no problem with how he recruits... Just that we haven't landed the big 6'3 and 6'5 guards who are athletic and polished offensively. We keep recruiting them though.

I feel like the team Les is after is the Memphis team that beat us, which felt like a team full of 6'5 - 6'9 guys who were all totally athletic beasts... I have nothing to back that up but observation of who Les has been after. It's almost like he took a very good and well-balanced 2006 BU team and had nothing that could stop the Memphis attack, and so he's been trying to build something like that ever since.
 
While I am ranting I will add one more thing. UNI drove the ball around our defense all night into the lane. What was that about? They didn't hit some open looks off those drives early, but it caught up to us and they hit them later. They took us off the dribble and got the shot they wanted almost the entire game. That is undeniable.
 
thefish7 said:
Yes it is. I don't think Les looks to recruit tiny guards... I think he actually wants a athletically dominating team. I have no problem with how he recruits... Just that we haven't landed the big 6'3 and 6'5 guards who are athletic and polished offensively. We keep recruiting them though.

I feel like the team Les is after is the Memphis team that beat us, which felt like a team full of 6'5 - 6'9 guys who were all totally athletic beasts... I have nothing to back that up but observation of who Les has been after. It's almost like he took a very good and well-balanced 2006 BU team and had nothing that could stop the Memphis attack, and so he's been trying to build something like that ever since.
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You could be right. But we have had to settle for small because we are a mid-major and play in the MVC. I will accept that.
 
According to all the stats from all our league games, I'd much rather we learn to shoot better before we worry about defending the three better...it's our own shooting that's the bigger problem.
 
Tulsa Brave said:
According to all the stats from all our league games, I'd much rather we learn to shoot better before we worry about defending the three better...it's our own shooting that's the bigger problem.
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Our shooting is not very good to say the least. I don't know what we shot from 3 tonight, but it was not good. The refs we calling everything around the basket and I was hoping for more drives and fouls, but many times we settled for a 3 and of course missed most of them.
 
georgethedog said:
You could be right. But we have had to settle for small because we are a mid-major and play in the MVC. I will accept that.
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Have you had a chance to see Iman Shumpert play at Georgia Tech? I've seen a couple of games of his this year, and I think he's someone you'd like a lot. I really wish we could have sealed that deal. It looks like Darius Smith will be another elite guard with good size that we're going to miss on.
 
georgethedog said:
While I am ranting I will add one more thing. UNI drove the ball around our defense all night into the lane. What was that about? They didn't hit some open looks off those drives early, but it caught up to us and they hit them later. They took us off the dribble and got the shot they wanted almost the entire game. That is undeniable.
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And the guys that were doing the driving were unathletic, lightly recruited guys that can shoot, not 6' 5" leapers that were 5 star recruits. We play for steals and leave these guys open at key times and end up getting beat. How about Les recruiting some **** shooters???
 
Boiler said:
And the guys that were doing the driving were unathletic, lightly recruited guys that can shoot, not 6' 5" leapers that were 5 star recruits. We play for steals and leave these guys open at key times and end up getting beat. How about Les recruiting some **** shooters???
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I nominate you for "post of the week". Great post.
 
Nice venting to my fellow fans. Got it out of my system... Sometimes you just gotta yell and my wife was already in bed... Gotta go to bed now and get ready for some exciting teaching in the morning. Good night all and take care.

GTD
 
As much as we broke down defensively the last 4:00 minutes it was our offense that really cost us the game. Most of the 2nd half we really moved the ball around and got good shots. The last 4 minutes we were way to passive. There was no motion for the 1st 25 seconds which put us in a scramble situation in the last 10 seconds. It just seemed like we were playing not to lose while UNI was playing to win. Certainly a disappointing loss. A loss to Drake on Saturday brings us closer to the play in game. The past 2 tough losses combined with a hard road game at Creighton makes this game one of the biggest on the season. I have no questions in regards to the effort this team puts out there every game. A little better execution on both ends of the court and we'll be just fine.
 
With a minute and a half left and UNI down 6, McCain can't bite on the help defense and leave Moran for a set three.

With 50 seconds left, Farokhmanesh couldn't inbound the ball quick enough seing that his guy was helping out and not ready to guard him. It was so obvious that he was the one that would be shooting the ball as he anxiously awaited the ball from the ref.
 
it's boogie time said:
With a minute and a half left and UNI down 6, McCain can't bite on the help defense and leave Moran for a set three.

With 50 seconds left, Farokhmanesh couldn't inbound the ball quick enough seing that his guy was helping out and not ready to guard him. It was so obvious that he was the one that would be shooting the ball as he anxiously awaited the ball from the ref.
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That's also how good shooters act. Even though they missed some early there was no lack of confidence when they took their next shot.
 
We played good enough D to win but our 3 point shot did not go in and we were pretty much who we have been all year and that is:
1) Great heart and hustle
2) Very susceptable outside shooting
3) 1/2 court offense relys on our guards too much especially during crunch time
4) D played well enough to win
5) Stopped going inside for long stretches of the game
6) We can never ever just put someone away when we have the chance
7) Gave up easy backdoor baskets

The only place where we did step it up beyond our usual was that DC and SS showed up :) and we really hit our FTs. I have no complaints from last nights game and I believe AW will be that shooter next year and hopefully WE will have recovered to play the 5.

I would love to have another JC at BU but those players are special and everyone is going after them. Who said the JL is not trying to recruit a pure shooter?
 
pure shooters are great, but can be liabilities unless they are athletic, also. Obviously, everybody wants great athletes who are tall and ALSO great shooters, but those players are hard to come by, and when they appear they are usually snatched up by the BCS major programs.

UNI gets away with their undersized, unathletic shooters because they have some real threats inside. As we saw when there were isolation plays, their bigs can create shots and finish most of the time. If the guard comes in to help, it leaves his man open for the 3.

If we want success with undersized guards, we need to further work our inside-outside game. Unfortunately, our personnel doesn't fit that style wonderfully, so we will have struggles. The counter to that is to play great defense and reduce the importance of the offensive end of the floor.

Warren being out has continued to hurt us for two reasons. obviously, he was our best scoring option. Him being on the floor commands respect, which leaves guys like Sam M, Norris, and Dodie more open looks. On the defensive end he is a long player, which allows him to help and gain that extra step on closing out the 3 point shooter.

I am confident that JL is running the best team he can with the personnel he has. Sometimes teams will make big shots, and ours won't fall. it sucks, but that's the game. Next year (allowing for good health) we will be much tougher, and will close out a lot of these games that are slipping away.
 
ifarania said:
I could spend more time on calc and linear algebra. How about it?
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Probably not a bad idea! "Go calc Go!" "Get, Linear, Yes!" New chants... Hey, what happened last night to my buddy Higgins? Normally he controls the game and lets the players play, but last night the other refs controlled the flow and blew whistles all night long. I'm dissappointed in my favorite ref. Did you give him an earfull???
 
Why would our gaurds need to be bigger? UNI's aren't big.

We have DD and CR.

I think it's more important to have talent(which includes shooting) and toughness at the guard spot
 
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