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How Good Is Wofford?

BradleyBrave said:
The crowds will keep dwindling until we give them something to go out and see. It's a tough economy right now, and an awful home non-conference slate and a middle-of-the-pack team isn't going to inspire the casual fan to go out. Us hardcore folks will be there come h-ll or high water, but the casual fan with the family is what sells the place out. Sunday evening games only make that worse, as those are usually reserved for unwinding before starting the work week.

Ok, there's my rant on the schedule with an added jab about finishing in the middle since 2001. I'll stop now. Basically I am still peeved about Dodie's injury and our inexplicable injury luck going back to '97, so I am having a hard time looking at anything positively right now regarding this season. Please do not use me as a barometer! Stay positive!
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Ya, before the game I was thinking, I sould be praying for forgiveness for sins of some on here:eek: But then the game started, and the way it started my thoughts said the hell with the siner's, better pray for BU:lol: :lol:
 
OOB I never took you as the alter boy type!:mrgreen: Pray for me because lord knows I have sinned or thinking of it!;-)
 
SFP said:
OOB I never took you as the alter boy type!:mrgreen: Pray for me because lord knows I have sinned or thinking of it!;-)
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I have a LONG, LONG LIST:lol: I think it would be best if you shared them with your girlfriend:eek: :lol: Trust me, you really don't want me praying for you:lol: Alter Boy, Alter Boy, Oh Lord,:eek::lol::lol:
 
BradleyBrave said:
And what would have prompted this curse? The rash of injuries started 5 years before JL got here and affected Mo's teams nearly as much as JL's.
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You're right BB, the curse is not JL's fault....and I never said it was by the way ;) ....rather it must be a BU MBB curse! :(

I prefer to think of BU's continued rash of players injuries as a 'curse', which supposedly could be lifted, vs 'Bad Luck' which has no rhyme or reason and could continue indefinitely............

Before anyone else gets real tight britches over this, I'm not real serious about this, it is fun to ponder a curse vs stewing over continued BU player injuries....

Perhaps it started when Quick Change started performing at the PCC....No matter how many times I have see it, the QC act is still black magic! Perhaps the advent of the frisbee chasing dog acts!
 
georgethedog said:
I find this thread rather amusing. To think that BU basketball fans would be concerned about a team from the Southern Conference at home. (If this team was on ISU's schedule someone would be making fun of ISU for scheduling). This shows just how far the program has come, huh? Unbelievable. Do you think an SIU team of a couple years ago (which is where we should be as a team by now) would have left any doubt about a home win against a team from a low-major conference? Is this all the further BU has come in the last several years?

One more thing, there are people on this board that constantly act as though BU and the MVC don't get respect and should be considered better than "mid-majors". If that is the case, this is a cupcake game and we should win by 20. If we are just a regular "mid-major" (which we are IMO), yes this is a game to worry about. Can't have it both ways. Think about it.
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Actually... I think this shows Bradley fans to be knowledgeable and respectful of all teams no matter what conference they are in. It shows we are not Ignorant and/nor Arrogant.

I believe if Wofford shows up on ISU's shedule, some (Tornado) might make fun of it but others would point out how good Wofford could actually be.
 
AZ BU Fan said:
You're right BB, the curse is not JL's fault....and I never said it was by the way ;) ....rather it must be a BU MBB curse! :(

I prefer to think of BU's continued rash of players injuries as a 'curse', which supposedly could be lifted, vs 'Bad Luck' which has no rhyme or reason and could continue indefinitely............

Before anyone else gets real tight britches over this, I'm not real serious about this, it is fun to ponder a curse vs stewing over continued BU player injuries....

Perhaps it started when Quick Change started performing at the PCC....No matter how many times I have see it, the QC act is still black magic! Perhaps the advent of the frisbee chasing dog acts!
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Oh Ya, Quick Change:biggrin: I have been thinking in other terms than Black Magic:? Everytime I see it I wonder if that cover ever comes down before she is changed:?: Will I get lucky and this will this be the night:cool: :lol:
 
georgethedog said:
I find this thread rather amusing. To think that BU basketball fans would be concerned about a team from the Southern Conference at home. (If this team was on ISU's schedule someone would be making fun of ISU for scheduling). This shows just how far the program has come, huh? Unbelievable. Do you think an SIU team of a couple years ago (which is where we should be as a team by now) would have left any doubt about a home win against a team from a low-major conference? Is this all the further BU has come in the last several years?

One more thing, there are people on this board that constantly act as though BU and the MVC don't get respect and should be considered better than "mid-majors". If that is the case, this is a cupcake game and we should win by 20. If we are just a regular "mid-major" (which we are IMO), yes this is a game to worry about. Can't have it both ways. Think about it.
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I've constantly argued with you that BU will be good 'this' year and there is the potential for the future, etc. I'm starting to understand your frustration. I'll give the current 'direction' until the end of next season, AW's, SM's, and DD's senior years. If we don't finish top 3 and make it to the finals, or win wither the regular season or tourney by then I may have to join many others here.

I do not have a problem with who JL plays, the 4-guard is often out of necessity, and not because JL 'Loves' 4 guards on the floor. I've talked basketball with him, he was an MVC POY, and NBA'er, the guy knows basketball, he KNOWS you need height to win, but when that height lags far behind in ability, his hands are tied. I also think JL can recruit, I (and I'm know verifiable expert) can see the potential in the big men. The gap is coaching and development.

GTD makes a great point, that we as BU fans, should not EVER be afraid of a team like Wofford. I really like JL and his swagger, and the off-the-court experience he brings to BU basketball (being an alumnus, truly believing in 'Once a Brave, Always a Brave') buys him extra time and consideration in my book - but if we have not progressed by the end of next year...

I sincerely hope my worries are for nothing and I'm an over-reacting fan not taking into consideration the fact we're without our 'best' big man - who I often make fun of - but BU HAS taken a step forward with JL, at least excitement-wise, now we need to take that next step.

GO BRRRRAAAAADDDDDDDDLLLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
 
Ampkill - Great post! I'm also trying not to get to ahead of myself. There is also another area JL is excelling and I consider this right up there with winning is the type of citizens he is turning out with this program. Just taking a look at the graduation rate tells you something about JL the person.
 
SFP said:
There is also another area JL is excelling and I consider this right up there with winning is the type of citizens he is turning out with this program. Just taking a look at the graduation rate tells you something about JL the person.
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I agree completely, part of the off-the-court experience JL brings and why I am willing to give him a little more leash as fan.
 
amckillip said:
I agree completely, part of the off-the-court experience JL brings and why I am willing to give him a little more leash as fan.
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We think a lot alike Pete and amckillip.

I like what Bradley stands for and I think a majority of our posters and Bradley fans do as well. Unfortunately, there will always be those who who are insecure and who crave the limelight that the KU's, MU's, UL's, and KU's of the world get. Integrity be d@mned.
 
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georgethedog said:
I find this thread rather amusing. To think that BU basketball fans would be concerned about a team from the Southern Conference at home. (If this team was on ISU's schedule someone would be making fun of ISU for scheduling).
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No way! If the Wofford game was on ISU's home schedule it would be a marquee game, and would be considered a "quality opponent".

Not a single non-conference team that ISU actually scheduled at home this year had a winning record last year, or an RPI under 200.(I am excluding their BracketBuster return game which they were forced to play, and was not scheduled by ISU).
Wofford was above .500 last year with an RPI of 172
Here are the schools that ISU scheduled at home this season (excluding the BB return game).
Not a single one had a winning record last year, and their RPIs from last year are ridiculously high:
North Florida- RPI 326
Norfolk State- RPI 290
SEMO- RPI 339
St. Bonaventure- RPI 201
Central MIchigan- RPI 297
Grambling- RPI 340

If they could have scheduled Wofford, it would be the gem of their home nonconference schedule.:D
 
Braves4Life said:
We think a lot alike Pete and amckillip, but to the average "townie" fan that never went to Bradley they could care less about graduation rates. Most would have a hard time even spelling "graduation". Bradley is THEIR pro team and all they care about is W's...... probably at any cost.

I like what Bradley stands for and I think a majority of our posters and Bradley fans do as well. Unfortunately, there will always be those who who are insecure and who crave the limelight that the KU's, MU's, UL's, and KU's of the world get. Integrity be d@mned.
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Why do some posters always fall into a "this" or "that" argument with BU athletics, particularly the MBB program?

Why can't BU fans strive for integrity/graduation success AND success on the court - even if the success is only in the MVC.

These are NOT mutually exclusive outcomes.

I guess I will have to do some research on Butler, Creighton, Gonzaga, Dayton, Duke, BYU, Notre Dame, St Mary's, Boston College etc to understand how bad/embarrassing/criminal their programs are

Some of us dumb, insecure, non groduats, actually like to back a winner or a top performer, and don't live in a world of "it is what it is and nothing can change", "just competing is good enough", "woe is us", "winners always cheat"....UN-AMERICAN!!!!

I thought that is why so many people love JL, he promised fans both a program to be proud of AND success!

Set your sights higher and you may just be able to achieve them!
 
Braves4Life said:
to the average "townie" fan that never went to Bradley they could care less about graduation rates. Most would have a hard time even spelling "graduation". Bradley is THEIR pro team and all they care about is W's...... probably at any cost.
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AZ BU Fan said:
Some of us dumb, insecure, non groduats, actually like to back a winner or a top performer, and don't live in a world of "it is what it is and nothing can change", "just competing is good enough", "woe is us", "winners always cheat"....UN-AMERICAN!!!!
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Hit the nail on the head, huh? Guess I struck a nerve with that one.
 
I had mentioned this the day we learned we would be playing Wofford:

The Terriers are sort of a poor man's Oakland. They have size, and know how to use it. Dahlman plays similarly to Theron Wilson but maybe not as athletic. Proficient at drawing fouls.

They play a style that we don't do well against.

Oakland destroyed us in every way last year, except free throws and one particular shot.
 
squirrelgotdead said:
I had mentioned this the day we learned we would be playing Wofford:

The Terriers are sort of a poor man's Oakland. They have size, and know how to use it. Dahlman plays similarly to Theron Wilson but maybe not as athletic. Proficient at drawing fouls.

They play a style that we don't do well against.

Oakland destroyed us in every way last year, except free throws and one particular shot.
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So we'll be playing 4 guards for sure. Make them match up with us, right?
 
squirrelgotdead said:
The Terriers are sort of a poor man's Oakland. They have size, and know how to use it.
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I have to disagree here. Last year when Oakland played us, they used 7 players

Jones 5'11", Kangas 6'3", Kushingberry 6'4", Maynard 6'7", Hudson 6'9", Waterstradt 6'10", and Benson 6'11". That is definitely a tall team and they did know how to use their size.

The tallest player that Wofford plays is Godzinski... a 6'8" guard. They generally use a rotation of 2 forwards, and a lot of time utilize a 4-guard set. Their two forwards are Dahlman and Johnson, and both are roughly 6'6". Besides Godzinski, most of their guards are around 6'1ish.

I don't see the comparison.
 
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