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I dont blame the coaching

Give me a coach who WANTS the job and will work his butt off and improve BU. This .500, no conference titles, no REAL postseason, no Valley tourney titles stuff is not cutting it.

I don't want change for change's sake. I want change for a better and successful program

I agree!

There's nothing worse than someone who goes into a job and gets real comfortable while doing nothing to improve their team and situation, only to think they walk on water and are unfireable.
 
I agree!

There's nothing worse than someone who goes into a job and gets real comfortable while doing nothing to improve their team and situation, only to think they walk on water and are unfireable.

Agreed.

I'm pretty sure there are several successful mid to low major coaches not making close to what Les is making. Same thing goes with top assistants at other top programs. Same thing goes with guys who aren't currently coaching. The ones currently employed may be getting 6 figures, but they aren't getting what they could/would be getting at BU.

I find it interesting that we just built these multi-million dollar facilities, draw well in an 11,000 seat arena, but it's being spun by some that we couldn't possibly afford to pay anyone MVC-caliber coaching money to come to poor old Bradley University. As I said earlier in this thread, just call us Evansville and let's pack up and move to the OVC if that's the case. The thing is, I don't think it's the case at all, and I don't think those spinning it that way believe that's truly the case either...
 
Agreed.

I'm pretty sure there are several successful mid to low major coaches not making close to what Les is making. Same thing goes with top assistants at other top programs. Same thing goes with guys who aren't currently coaching. The ones currently employed may be getting 6 figures, but they aren't getting what they could/would be getting at BU.

I find it interesting that we just built these multi-million dollar facilities, draw well in an 11,000 seat arena, but it's being spun by some that we couldn't possibly afford to pay anyone MVC-caliber coaching money to come to poor old Bradley University. As I said earlier in this thread, just call us Evansville and let's pack up and move to the OVC if that's the case. The thing is, I don't think it's the case at all, and I don't think those spinning it that way believe that's truly the case either...

IMO, the new facilities should have been completed probably 10 years ago... There are times in which I feel BU is continually playing catch-up with what is needed with the basketball program. Like you on earlier posts, I have been harping on our staff as well. What I want to see is a commitment from the administration to support financially etc a winning program. I am and will be very curious as to what the new AD will do in the after the basketball season is over.
 
So what you're saying is we're doomed to eventually be Evansville? Might as well pack up and leave the MVC as soon as we can if that's the case. For some reason I don't think you truly believe that...

no those weren't my words at all..
and I think you know me enough to know I like winning better than losing...
I'd love to be 25-2, but I don't want to play cupcakes to get there..
and I am not ready to jettison a good coach and good players, who I think have as much chance to win in St. Louis - barring injury - as anyone else..

We don't always play well, but then neither does Wichita (see last night) or UNI (we nearly beat them there playing one of our worst games)...

I don't like the losses, but I will stick with the guys we have, support them, and cheer hard for them...
I am stumped as to why MY support for the team of MY choosing seems to anger other people who insist I need to justify my actions and support or change my point of view.
Sorry- I won't change..I feel good about giving them my 100% support and loyalty, and I won't return the favor by insisting that others must feel as I do...
But if they do win the MVC Tourney and go to the NCAA will people find something else to bit*h about or will they still want the coach's head?
Fortunately I won't have to worry about that choice...
 
BU has played 14 conference games so far and they are 7-7. Here is Bradley's conference record after 14 games going back to 2002-03

2002-03 6-8
2003-04 4-10
2004-05 5-9
2005-06 7-7
2006-07 7-7
2007-08 7-7
2008-09 7-7
2009-10 7-7

That is correct ... we have been 7-7 at this point of league play for 5 consecutive seasons.

I think way too much is made of CB's contribution as an assistant coach. I think he was solid, but the numbers don't support that he had much of an impact outside of the miracle end to 2005-06 season. Was the miracle season of 2005-06 due to CB or did an over-abundance of talent finally start playing up to their potential?
 
His New Trier teams actually ran a real offense and played defense!

Exaggeration alert! Do you honestly think we don't run a real offense and don't play defense?

Also, for some reason I have it in my head that Malnati has a problem with this area. Where am I getting that?
 
BU has played 14 conference games so far and they are 7-7. Here is Bradley's conference record after 14 games going back to 2002-03

2002-03 6-8
2003-04 4-10
2004-05 5-9
2005-06 7-7
2006-07 7-7
2007-08 7-7
2008-09 7-7
2009-10 7-7

That is correct ... we have been 7-7 at this point of league play for 5 consecutive seasons.

I think way too much is made of CB's contribution as an assistant coach. I think he was solid, but the numbers don't support that he had much of an impact outside of the miracle end to 2005-06 season. Was the miracle season of 2005-06 due to CB or did an over-abundance of talent finally start playing up to their potential?

so you don't say...surely you must be totally wrong...this is really a down year - have you not seen all the complaining??
 
I don't like the losses, but I will stick with the guys we have, support them, and cheer hard for them...

I feel good about giving them my 100% support and loyalty

You just described every fan of Bradley.

I do all the things you just said as well.
 
so you don't say...surely you must be totally wrong...this is really a down year - have you not seen all the complaining??

No, that was my point last night. Sadly, this isn't a down year.

It's another wait til next year again.

This is the best we can expect with this staff. .500
 
so you don't say...surely you must be totally wrong...this is really a down year - have you not seen all the complaining??

What was I thinking? This is a great year for Bradley Basketball! What a season! 7-7...you win some, you lose some I guess! Not too high, not too low! Right where you want to be...Even Steven. Drake's up, WSU is down. WSU is up, Drake is down. But not us. We are the rock.
 
so you don't say...surely you must be totally wrong...this is really a down year - have you not seen all the complaining??



At least 8 years in a row of not being above .500 14 games into the conference season certainly seems reason enough to complain to me...unless your expectations are very low. However, since I recall all the posts slamming our predicted 6th place finish this season, and I recall being scoffed at when I stated WSU would be the surprise team (instead of SIU) and would finish ahead of us, I do not believe this is the case.
 
What was I thinking? This is a great year for Bradley Basketball! What a season! 7-7...you win some, you lose some I guess! Not too high, not too low! Right where you want to be...Even Steven. Drake's up, WSU is down. WSU is up, Drake is down. But not us. We are the rock.

Exactly what I was thinking. It was almost like he was saying..

SEE...this isn't a bad year! We are doing the same as always! Nothing bad to see here.

Is this what BU is now?? .500 right in the meaty part of the curve?
 
so you don't say...surely you must be totally wrong...this is really a down year - have you not seen all the complaining??

I don't consider those numbers an endorsement either. As I posted earlier in this thread titled, "I don't blame the coaching," it would also be unwarrented to praise the coaching.

I guess its the players who have gotten us to 7-7 for 5 straight years. ;-)
 
This issue is going to go round-and-round forever.

You can blame everything and everyone. The question you have to ask is what is the one change you can make that will illicit the greatest change?

That is the coach
 
This issue is going to go round-and-round forever.

You can blame everything and everyone. The question you have to ask is what is the one change you can make that will illicit the greatest change?

That is the coach

But why not analyze what BU is doing right and wrong as an institution to put a winning product on the floor before the decision is made to fire the coach? People are concentrating on the coach and I can see the reasoning for this because of what is happening this year. Since the end of the Albeck years, BU has pretty much had a mediocre record with some splashes of success. Why is that? How committed is the Administration to the sports program?
 
But why not analyze what BU is doing right and wrong as an institution to put a winning product on the floor before the decision is made to fire the coach? People are concentrating on the coach and I can see the reasoning for this because of what is happening this year. Since the end of the Albeck years, BU has pretty much had a mediocre record with some splashes of success. Why is that? How committed is the Administration to the sports program?

Truthfully, we have the first President that will demand excellence on the field of play for the first time since David Blair Owen retired from Bradley in the early 1950's.

Rodes, Van Arsdale, Abegg, Brazil, and Broski all acted in ways that only handicapped the Athletic Department in different ways, and had only passing interest in the growth and success of athletics as a key part of Bradley.
 
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