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I Don't Get It

C

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Alll year we track the RPI and SOS and in the end it didn't appear to mean all that much. Unless someone can explain Stanford getting in with an RPI of 68 and SOS of 35. MS was 37 & 43 and BU was 36 & 21. I think BU was abused worse than MS was and MS got it big time. What am I missing? Drexel got hosed as well.
 
Drexal got screwed the worst. They played all those road games and won allot of them. MSU needed a win over either creighton or southern 0-5 against them hurt. We knew what we need to do after we beat VCU and losing to UN probably cost us. Hopefully the team will only be upset for a little while and we can win some NIT games. Lets get to the garden!!
 
Re: I Don't Get It

California Alum said:
Alll year we track the RPI and SOS and in the end it didn't appear to mean all that much. Unless someone can explain Stanford getting in with an RPI of 68 and SOS of 35. MS was 37 & 43 and BU was 36 & 21. I think BU was abused worse than MS was and MS got it big time. What am I missing? Drexel got hosed as well.
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Welcome to C Littlepage's NCAA selection/seeding committee.

Basically, the strike zone has changed.
 
Remember how all the BCS coaches wanted to expand the NCAA field when the mid-majors did so well last year?
Let's see how many want it this year....I doubt many since they all got in and the mid-majors got excluded.
 
Was this committee even looking at some of these resumes as Drexel deserved to be in ahead of at least 5 teams; it looks more like teams were picked for past reputations rather then what they did this season; Missouri State left out again; have to to wonder if Barry will be back next season.
 
Was this committee even looking at some of these resumes as Drexel deserved to be in ahead of at least 5 teams; it looks more like teams were picked for past reputations rather then what they did this season; Missouri State left out again; have to to wonder if Barry will be back next season.
 
NCAA owns the NIT now right?

Guess we'll know if they're out to screw the valley if they have us in the same bracket as MSU.

Let's cheer on CU and SIU and hang our own banner down at CC.
 
What the hell? How did Old Dominion get a bid? So they beat G-town. We have a better SOS and RPI. What about Arkansas and Stanford? We have better records and RPI! I'm so tired of rewarding teams simply because they're in the so-called power conferences. I thought the RPI was supposedly the leading factor the committee looked into for at-large consideration. Apparently not. I can't believe they screwed MSU either. The 5th best conference apparently means nothing.
 
Re: I Don't Get It

MacabreMob said:
California Alum said:
Alll year we track the RPI and SOS and in the end it didn't appear to mean all that much. Unless someone can explain Stanford getting in with an RPI of 68 and SOS of 35. MS was 37 & 43 and BU was 36 & 21. I think BU was abused worse than MS was and MS got it big time. What am I missing? Drexel got hosed as well.
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Welcome to C Littlepage's NCAA selection/seeding committee.

Basically, the strike zone has changed.
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Littlepage wasn't the committee chairperson this year, and his tenure on the committee is over.
 
The final RPI shows us at 36...ahead of Purdue, USC, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Stanford. We are one behind ODU, but ODU has an SOS of 95. What the hell.
 
As soon as I saw Purdue as a 9 seed, I thought we were in trouble. They played well at home but lousy on the road. If Bradley's worst road loss was at Tennessee Tech by a late basket, what was Purdue's double digit loss at Minnesota? Drexel wins some big non-conference road games and gets squat. So much for East Coast bias when they get left out and Stanford gets in. The Cardinal struggled down the stretch and didn't have good computer numbers at all.

Another thing that gets me is half the selection committee is made up from guys at mid-major schools or conferences! I guess if SIU had won the Valley tournament, Creighton would have been snubbed! Nevada is ranked pretty much all year and is higher than Butler and SIU going into the last week of the season, and the best they can get is a 7 seed? Three of their four losses came on the road at places a BCS team would never dare tread (Logan and Las Cruces).
 
Let me preface this by saying that we got what we deserved by losing to UNI at home, but, according to Pomoroy's final RPI, we have a higher RPI than 8 at large bid teams (ODU, USC, Purdue, Vandy, GT, VT, Virginia and Stanford) and have the third highest RPI of teams left out (Air force, MSU). And, if you read the bracketology sites and listened to the commentary on TV, we weren't realistically on the bubble.

When are we going to do away with the RPI? It seems like it's such a point of emphasis throughout the season, and it just goes out the window when a few major conference bubble teams win a quarterfinal game in their conference tournament.
 
It seems like the conference tourneys played a bigger part this year than previously. At least the head of the selection group kept referencing that. Also found it interesting that there were over 100 teams with 20 wins this year....30 more than last year.
 
SpfldBUAlum said:
It seems like the conference tourneys played a bigger part this year than previously. At least the head of the selection group kept referencing that. Also found it interesting that there were over 100 teams with 20 wins this year....30 more than last year.
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If the conference tournament importance was true, why did Stanford get a bid? The lost their 1st round conference tourney game. What about Georgia Tech? They lost their 1st round conference tournament game as well. It's just another example of the committee's inconsistency and hypocrisy.
 
Payback is a ...............

Payback is a ...............

I think the selection of two Valley teams had a lot to do with "payback" from last year's and this year's perceived b itching and moaning by Valley members and fans about the Valley being a BCS Conference and how we are better than everyone else.
 
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California Alum said:
Alll year we track the RPI and SOS and in the end it didn't appear to mean all that much. Unless someone can explain Stanford getting in with an RPI of 68 and SOS of 35. MS was 37 & 43 and BU was 36 & 21. I think BU was abused worse than MS was and MS got it big time. What am I missing? Drexel got hosed as well.
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Cal--- you shouldn't be so upset....just think of the poor Big XII!

Just imagine...their conference was ranked 7th....ahead of the Mountain West and WAC, and yet the poor folks of the Big XII
only got FOUR teams in the NCAA and they are whining to beat the band
about Kansas State and Oklahoma State being left out!

And of their four teams, one is a #1 seed, and all four are seeded in the top-4!


here indeed is the first of I suspect many stories by the Big XII writers
about how badly they got screwed!!
"Tournament gives Big 12 little credit"
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/d...stories/031207dnspotournoverview.35b1d24.html
 
Over 100, 20 Game Winners WOW!!!!!!!

Over 100, 20 Game Winners WOW!!!!!!!

My question is if the NCAA Planning commisioner stressed that there were over 100 20 game winners this year than the 78 last year, how did Stanford get in with only 18 games and no championship win????? Please tell me..........
 
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