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Anybody got any info on Paul Bunch? Guy's listed as 6'10-11 and say he's still growing and could be at least 7'0. Sounds like a real good player, but Scout and ESPN don't show any schools interested, and rivals only shows Kentucky but with no offer on the table. Come on DC give us somethin :-D
 
Anybody got any info on Paul Bunch? Guy's listed as 6'10-11 and say he's still growing and could be at least 7'0. Sounds like a real good player, but Scout and ESPN don't show any schools interested, and rivals only shows Kentucky but with no offer on the table. Come on DC give us somethin :-D

Why would he ever want to come here?
 
Here's an article saying he's been struggling academically, but that his coach has really had an impact in getting him on track. This guy could be a real diamond in the rough.

http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/news/index.php?item=2597&cat=23

"John has not yet picked a college to attend next fall, but he says his coach has worked hard to find him a scholarship opportunity. His grades have improved dramatically this year, and he credits Thorpe with pushing him on that front. As for missing games for being ineligible, he says, ???It hurts, but it??™s fair.???
 
He has been connected to the Chicago network of coaches/advisers for a long time.
Even if he does qualify (which is why most schools have ignored him), Bradley would have to play a game in Chicago that they aren't likely to be able to play.
 
He has been connected to the Chicago network of coaches/advisers for a long time.
Even if he does qualify (which is why most schools have ignored him), Bradley would have to play a game in Chicago that they aren't likely to be able to play.

Basically, welcome to ISU kid.
 
Bunch's two main negatives are
-academics
-athleticism
he is big and dominates at HS, but he is very slow, out of shape, and hardly any D-I programs see a lot of potential...
he is a smaller version of Kenny George..
 
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I recall North Lawndale playing Manual a few years back in the 2A state championship game. Bunch had a monster game and was only a sophomore. 18 points 10 rebounds and 4 blocks. I remember telling myself this kid will be a ton once he is a senior. Sounds like things haven't quite panned out.
 
Yup... they must be cheating since they got some of those Chicago recruits that bu didn't get...:roll: If you can't beat em, assumed they cheated!!!


I took it that ISU is working the system and working something does not mean it has to be illegal just willing to play the game that is out there. The facts are that if you want to play in Chicago certain games have to be played, so you either play or go somewhere else. I hear a lot of posters here that want someone to recruit Chicago, but do not want to play the game. You can't have it both ways.:-o
 
Did I miss something?? What Chicago kid has ISU gotten that's helped them even one iota in the last 5 years since Porter landed OE?
In fact, I saw OE up close and personal twice in the last couple weeks, and I'd say Bradley has a better kid out of Chicago than ISU does...
 
Bunch's two main negatives are
-academics
-athleticism
he is big and dominates at HS, but he is very slow, out of shape, and hardly any D-I programs see a lot of potential...
he is a smaller version of Kenny George..

Not sure where I saw it but one site did say that Kentucky, U of I, Wisconsin, Depaul, and I think MU were all showing interest. I wouldn't consider Egleseder very fast or athletic, but he's 7'0 and has a huge body unlike DC who was still able to be pushed around.
 
Did I miss something?? What Chicago kid has ISU gotten that's helped them even one iota in the last 5 years since Porter landed OE?
In fact, I saw OE up close and personal twice in the last couple weeks, and I'd say Bradley has a better kid out of Chicago than ISU does...
You didn't miss too much. Only....

Tony Lewis and Kellen Thornton each helped ISU sweep your squad this year. Lewis more than Thornton granted but they helped in both wins and Lewis will likely earn a spot on the All-Newcomer and All-Bench team in the Valley this year. They each will be back next year also and Lewis likely will start. Terry Johnson and Zeke Upshaw are talented young players with upside. Kenyon Smith arrives next year and could be the starting PG. Trey Blue will be pushing for a lot of time as a sophomore next year. Is that enough for you? Wanna count Threloff too?
 
You didn't miss too much. Only....

Tony Lewis and Kellen Thornton each helped ISU sweep your squad this year. Lewis more than Thornton granted but they helped in both wins and Lewis will likely earn a spot on the All-Newcomer and All-Bench team in the Valley this year. They each will be back next year also and Lewis likely will start. Terry Johnson and Zeke Upshaw are talented young players with upside. Kenyon Smith arrives next year and could be the starting PG. Trey Blue will be pushing for a lot of time as a sophomore next year. Is that enough for you? Wanna count Threloff too?

can you add graduating in 3 months to your sig? :twisted:
 
You didn't miss too much. Only....

Tony Lewis and Kellen Thornton each helped ISU sweep your squad this year. Lewis more than Thornton granted but they helped in both wins and Lewis will likely earn a spot on the All-Newcomer and All-Bench team in the Valley this year. They each will be back next year also and Lewis likely will start. Terry Johnson and Zeke Upshaw are talented young players with upside. Kenyon Smith arrives next year and could be the starting PG. Trey Blue will be pushing for a lot of time as a sophomore next year. Is that enough for you? Wanna count Threloff too?

None of those kids were recruited from Chicago. Thornton came from a prep school, Lewis from a juco. Johnson has played very little and didn't play at all against Bradley in the last game, Upshaw hasn't played at all. And Smith hasn't played yet either, nor has Trey Blue, who was also not recruited from Chicago, but via a prep school, and Fordham U. Threloff isn't from Chicago, but even if he was, he is still in high school and might not be much help next year when he does arrive.

In other words, despite all this info, the question was-
What Chicago kid has ISU gotten that's helped them even one iota in the last 5 years since Porter landed OE?

And the answer is still- none.
 
He has been connected to the Chicago network of coaches/advisers for a long time.
Even if he does qualify (which is why most schools have ignored him), Bradley would have to play a game in Chicago that they aren't likely to be able to play.

Can you explain further what this means? I thought every year BU tried to play a game in or near Chicago to satisfy our alumni base up there. Just curious I've never heard this mentioned before.
 
I am not referring to Bradley playing one of their scheduled games in Chicago.
I am referring to a "game" that colleges are expected to play with high school coaches and AAU coaches in Chicago if they want to recruit the top Chicago high school talent. I am sorry if there is confusion, but I think most people here know what I meant, since we have discussed this many times before. I am not going to go into specifics, but suffice to say that there is a reason some schools get the Chicago talent, and some schools never get any of it. It requires certain "connections", and there is a reason these coaches in Chicago seem to live at a much higher standard of living than can be explained by their high school salary.
 
Gotcha I wasn't thinking outside the box. It's too bad people use these young talented kids who just want to play basketball as chips to get what they want.
 
None of those kids were recruited from Chicago. Thornton came from a prep school, Lewis from a juco. Johnson has played very little and didn't play at all against Bradley in the last game, Upshaw hasn't played at all. And Smith hasn't played yet either, nor has Trey Blue, who was also not recruited from Chicago, but via a prep school, and Fordham U. Threloff isn't from Chicago, but even if he was, he is still in high school and might not be much help next year when he does arrive.

In other words, despite all this info, the question was-
What Chicago kid has ISU gotten that's helped them even one iota in the last 5 years since Porter landed OE?

And the answer is still- none.
Da Coach are you serious? I really thought you of all people understood the recruiting process.

So all of a sudden Tony Lewis isn't from Chicago? The relationship the ISU coaching staff has with Tony Lewis has NOTHING to do with CHICAGO? ISU didn't first start recruiting Tony Lewis when he played in the Chicago Public League?

Come on.

Let me throw this example out there. Bradley showed some interest in Paris Gulley when he was a high school player in Peoria. Gulley goes off to SE CC in West Burlington, Iowa. If Gulley ends up playing for Bradley after his JUCO days, he wasn't recuited out of Peoria, but instead he was recruited out of West Burlington, Iowa?

That's just semantics plain and simple. Using your rationale I suppose Marcellus Sommerville wasn't a Peoria recruit for BU since he didn't go there directly from HS? I guess Curtis Stuckey wasn't a Peoria recruit either? I suggest maybe to avoid confusion you refer to Sommerville as hailing from Iowa City and Stuckey as born and raised in Des Moines.

For the record I clarified that Johnson, Upshaw, Blue and Smith haven't made an impact yet but they are talented and on the way
 
Tony Lewis was not recruited out of Chicago, he came to ISU from a junior college. Period. I cannot find any reports that he had any D1 scholarship offers when he was in high school.
Get back to me with any Chicago high school recruits ISU has gotten that have had any significant impact at all, since OE. If not, quit trying to obfuscate the issue or argue for the sake of arguing.
 
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