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Illinois State Recruiting

Not when he's got 2 babies under 1 year old to take care of!

But seriously- Jonny Hill is a good player who will help ISU in a couple years. Zeisloft had a good high school career, but I predict he'll redshirt next year. Bradley looked at him and passed.
 
tornado said:
ISU recruit Hill is excelling just like ISU recruit Justin Dentmon did and kinda like ISU recruit Kenyon Smith did last year in the juco Nationals
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Just like any other Redbird that excelled before they got on campus.
..and wasn't Justin Clark likewise one of the best shooters in the history of Missouri State HS basketball??
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If by "best" you mean made the most 3s then yes, the best.
Quanity/Quality in this situation. :lol:
..just sparring with ya 45oseoj.. ;) - maybe at least one of us will dodge Thursday next year...
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I'd say one of us is looking a little better in that category right now. ;)
 
tornado said:
2AM feedings....I suspect Joe knows about them...
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So do I...2 under 16 months old.

I still stand by my original post. When I wrote it, ISU was 6-2, well before the wheels fell off the wagon. Zeisloft has definitely improved year to year, and may have upside, but I keep hearing about how poor his defense is. I would be shocked if he makes an impact before 2014. Hill and Moore look great on paper, but so have many other ISU recruits in the past few years, many of whom haven't panned out (on the other hand, Moore may be the biggest risk/reward prospect I've seen come through the Valley in a while).

Trust me, I LOVE it when both ISU and BU are good, because those rivalry games mean more when we aren't playing for the rights to a 9th place tie-breaker. As a more than casual observer, there are problems in Normal that need remediation. 45otseoj, as you probably realize, a lineup of Carmichel, Ekey, Clark, Blue, and Cousin would be a last place team again.

ISU's success next season is way too heavily dependent on the newcomers, a VERY scary proposition. Granted, Bradley may be in the same boat, but that's not the point of this post.
 
Da Coach said:
But seriously- Jonny Hill is a good player who will help ISU in a couple years. Zeisloft had a good high school career, but I predict he'll redshirt next year. Bradley looked at him and passed.
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By help do mean start, play significant minutes, simply play at all?

Hill reminds me a lot of Walt with a little less strength and a little more court savvy. I predict that he will come in and play a similar role, but he may need more time in weight room. It really depends on if he can get to the rim in college in the same ways that he did in high school. Justin Clark was a player that didn't make that transition very quickly.

Zeisloft may be redshirt cantidate, but he fills a desperate need as a 3 point shooter. He's long and can rebound too. I've heard one very good resource compare his game to Jeremy Crouch's game coming out of high school.

Another thing about these two is that they played on very successful teams this season. Hill played along side NIU commit Zach Miller, and Zeisloft was a cog in the machine that was Lyons Township; five 6'4ish starters who could all shoot and rebound. Both player's stats may have been deflated while their team's records were inflated.

Also, Hill will be in Peoria this weekend playing for Glenbard East. They play Simeon on Friday night; a great test for Johnny.

An interesting scenario: Simeon and Warren are the likely victors on Friday night which will set up a 3rd place game between Glenbard East and Normal Community. That match-up would plot Johnny Hill against Normal's Anthony Beane Jr. Beane's father is an assistant coach at ISU.
 
PTownHawkeye said:
Hill and Moore look great on paper, but so have many other ISU recruits in the past few years, many of whom haven't panned out (on the other hand, Moore may be the biggest risk/reward prospect I've seen come through the Valley in a while).
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Moore will be good, and I haven't seen much (in person or in film) to scare me away from that prediction. Fast, smart, great passer, great shooter, and great leader.
45otseoj, as you probably realize, a lineup of Carmichel, Ekey, Clark, Blue, and Cousin would be a last place team again.
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No doubt, but I also have no doubt that we won't start that lineup.
ISU's success next season is way too heavily dependent on the newcomers, a VERY scary proposition.
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When you watch as much bad basketball as I did this season, you're ready for some newe face. Trust me. :lol: And since you brought it up, here is the list of next year's newcomers:
Moore - freshman
Hill - freshman
Zesiloft - freshman
Threloff - RS freshman
Allen - Transfer (Minnesota)
and a player or 2 yet to be named.



tornado said:
not sure which one since we at least get back a potential all conf player..
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The one that has won 5 in a row. ;)
 
tornado said:
I assume Beane is on ISU's radar...
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I would assume so. :p

Good athlete (looong) who seems to have a problem with getting the ball to go in the basket the 3 times I've seen him. Good passer in traffic.

Advertised as a PG in the summer but plays quite a bit of wing for his high school.

Offer from Iowa
 
I am too old.....but it's a very special circumstance....a 4 y/o, 1 y/o, and newborn ... landed on the doorstep -- how can you say no??
gives a new perspective on what's important in life.....
plus, in the end, if I keep it up Bradley will have more sellouts down the road... ;)
 
tornado said:
I am too old.....but it's a very special circumstance....a 4 y/o, 1 y/o, and newborn ... landed on the doorstep -- how can you say no??
gives a new perspective on what's important in life.....
plus, in the end, if I keep it up Bradley will have more sellouts down the road... ;)
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I understand. That's something you cannot refuse. Good luck! Bradley Fans in the making in that household ;). Don't tell me you have dogs too haha.
 
State Tournament MVP
(Including supersectional and state tournament games in Peoria)
??? Johnny Hill, Glenbard East
In the three games (supersectional and state finals in Peoria) there wasn't a player who did more for his team than the 6-3 guard. He led all players in scoring in those three games with 70 total points. He poured in 32 in the supersectional win over Rockford Auburn and a game-high 22 points in the semifinal loss to Simeon, shooting a sizzling 8-of-10 from beyond the 3-point line in the three games. The Illinois State recruit also averaged 7 rebounds and made play after play when the Rams needed it most.
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http://blogs.suntimes.com/hoopsreport/2011/03/simeon_highlights_weekend_in_p.html
 
wily coyote said:
I was really impressed with Hill last weekend. With your guards he could be an instant starter. I thought he was that good and your guards leave alot to be desired. Really liked Hill alot. He's Walt lemon with an outside shot.Also probably better hops.
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I drew the Walt Lemon comparison too.

I think we have 3 or 4 guards coming in that all have a legit chance of playing right away.
 
Johnny was named 2nd Team All-State by the Chicago Tribune.
- The other 4 members of the team are attending Wisconsin, Michigan, Northwestern, and the 5th member is Jabari Parker.

Zeisloft was named Honorable Mention by the Chicago Tribune.
- Joined by DS
 
Sounds like a good player...maybe BU can follow up with RA honoring his commitment and we can bring both these programs out of the basement this year!
 
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