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Indiana State at Bradley Wed. 1/30 7:05 pm

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Indiana State visits Carver Arena Wednesday at 7:05 pm
Indiana State is 10-9, 4-5 and Bradley is 11-10, 4-5.
There is no broadcast TV, but the game should be available on BUBraves.tv.

RPI's--
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_mvc_Men.html

Pomeroy predicts Bradley to win their next 3 games--
http://www.kenpom.com/sked.php?y=2008&team=Bradley&t=p

MVC Standings--
http://www.mvc-sports.com/standings...7600&SPID=2901&DEF_FY=2007&DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=

MVC stats--
http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Indiana State website--
http://www.gosycamores.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15200&KEY=&SPID=7259&SPSID=65149

Indiana State Roster--
http://www.gosycamores.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15200&KEY=&SPID=7259&SPSID=65152

Indiana State schedule and results--
http://www.gosycamores.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15200&KEY=&SPID=7259&SPSID=65150

Indiana State stats--
http://www.gosycamores.com/fls/15200//statistics/0708-mbb/Combined%20Stats%20-%20INS%20-%20Indiana%20State.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=15200&KEY=&SPID=7259&SPSID=65153

BU stats--
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19334&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=1309880

Indiana State fan message boards--
http://www.sycamorehoops.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3

http://members.boardhost.com/isuhoopforum/
 
This game is a must-win. Indiana State started off conference play strong at 3-0, but has struggled ever since. Unfortunately for the Syckies, people in Indiana have seemed to forget about basketball at Indiana State and that there even is an Indiana State University.
 
Indiana State is 9-0 at home this year, but just 1-9 on the road.

Despite the new coach (Kevin McKenna) and the improved play, Indiana State isn't drawing as many fans as last year. They are averaging only 3,766 per game in home attendance this year.
This is last in the MVC by far. Last year, they drew 4,328 per game.

They rely heavily on the outside shot, but they don't shoot it very well.
As a team, Indiana State shoots 41.2% overall (9th in the MVC), and 33.1% from three (7th in the MVC).
Their best shooter, senior Gabe Moore is 46.1% and 38.8% from three, and their most prolific shooter and top scorer, soph Marico Stinson shoots 40.3% and 37.7%

The Sycamores also don't rebound very well. They are 8th in the MVC in rebounding, 9th in rebounding defense, and 10th in rebounding margin.
Stats- http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

MVC home attendance [2007-08]--
Creighton...........15,818
Wichita State.....10,478
Bradley..............10,030
Southern Illinois....7,057
Missouri State .....5,998
Illinois State........5,965
Drake.................5,633
Evansville............5,604
Northern Iowa......4,914
Indiana State.......3,766
 
IlliBraves said:
This game is a must-win. Indiana State started off conference play strong at 3-0, but has struggled ever since. Unfortunately for the Syckies, people in Indiana have seemed to forget about basketball at Indiana State and that there even is an Indiana State University.
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Don't worry, BU will win this game easily.:)
 
Murph said:
Don't worry, BU will win this game easily.:)
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InSU gave ISU all they could handle Sunday so I wouldn't call it a "gimme"....of course ISU was without Slack, the guy ONE ISU fan thought would have provided ISU with a 6-8 point win had he not been hurt against BU the other nite.

Of course when I asked how much BU would have won by with a healthy Ruffin playing his usual 38 minutes opposed to the 18 minutes he saw at about 60% health that nite the answer was STILL the same.

Slacks good and would have helped ISU against BU but the Valleys BEST player sat almost an equal amout of time.
 
Sad that a school the size of Illinois State, with as good a team as they have this season, can't get 6000 to a game except when they play Bradley.
 
Gotta keep the momentum rolling. Hope there's a good crowd and a sound beating! I must say though, that I am gonna miss Royce.
 
Chico said:
Sad that a school the size of Illinois State, with as good a team as they have this season, can't get 6000 to a game except when they play Bradley.
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I know you are trying to be cute but don't flatter yourself Chico. You don't find it sad. You have fun with it and enjoy it, so be honest.

7,000+ have been at the Cincinnati, WSU, InSU, SIU games this season. There will be 8,000 plus at each remaining home game as well. At the end of the year the average will be decent and far more than has been there in recent years with home games left with Drake, Creighton and the BB game plus your school. I guess Redbird fans are like White Sox fans. Attendance at homes games is only solid when the team is winning.
 
Our attendance is picking up, slowly but surely. What is hurting our average are the several games in November that drew in the 4-5K range. Since early December, our attendance has started to improve. We should get good crowds the rest of the way, with a possible sellout or 2.
 
I personally hope ISU continues to have improved attendences at their games. When they had their really good teams in the mid 90's that place was full and they brought great crowds down to STL.
 
This is a big game for us and hopefully the students will show up in full force as they did against the other ISU; every game needs to be treated as the most important one by both the fans and the players if we want to continue our momentum ; I do not see any easy games.
 
real fan said:
This is a big game for us and hopefully the students will show up in full force as they did against the other ISU; every game needs to be treated as the most important one by both the fans and the players if we want to continue our momentum ; I do not see any easy games.
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I'll be there (and loud as always)....11,399 to go.
 
Shouldn't that be 5-4 in the MVC for IN State? Unless yahoo sports had it wrong before the ISU game sunday morning. I remember thinking we had to beat them on Wednesday to be tied for 3rd or 4th.

Jason
 
yes, Indiana State is 5-4 in the MVC, tied for 3rd right now. If ISU can play as well as they did against the other ISU Sunday, then it should be a pretty good game. Each game they look a little better.

jasonpeoria911 said:
Shouldn't that be 5-4 in the MVC for IN State? Unless yahoo sports had it wrong before the ISU game sunday morning. I remember thinking we had to beat them on Wednesday to be tied for 3rd or 4th.

Jason
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DannyCooksey said:
I guess Redbird fans are like White Sox fans. Attendance at homes games is only solid when the team is winning.
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Just another reason to hate ISU! :)

I've always drawn that comparison. But it goes deeper than just attendance. ISU fans are like White Sox fans in that most (not all, so don't jump all over me) have an EXTREME inferiority complex because their rival always has better attendance at their games. The inferiority complex also runs into the fact that ISU obsesses about BU, wishing for our demise (again, remember how many threads were on the ISU board about BU) and we couldn't care less about their failures, because we're focused on our own team. We have such a strong fan base we don't need to try and make ourselves feel better by trying to cut down our rival.

Of course, as always, ISU/White Sox fans will vehemently deny this ... but it's simply a fact.

Luckily there are some good fans of my personal rivals, and DannyCooksey is one of them. I'm glad you continue to post on this board, as you usually have a pretty good concept of reality, unlike many of the others who support the Birds.

Oh ... back on topic ... BU should beat Indiana State Saturday and I'd be very surprised if we didn't.
 
BUBraves2006 said:
I've always drawn that comparison. But it goes deeper than just attendance. ISU fans are like White Sox fans in that most (not all, so don't jump all over me) have an EXTREME inferiority complex because their rival always has better attendance at their games. The inferiority complex also runs into the fact that ISU obsesses about BU, wishing for our demise (again, remember how many threads were on the ISU board about BU) and we couldn't care less about their failures, because we're focused on our own team. We have such a strong fan base we don't need to try and make ourselves feel better by trying to cut down our rival.

Of course, as always, ISU/White Sox fans will vehemently deny this ... but it's simply a fact.

Luckily there are some good fans of my personal rivals, and DannyCooksey is one of them. I'm glad you continue to post on this board, as you usually have a pretty good concept of reality, unlike many of the others who support the Birds.

Oh ... back on topic ... BU should beat Indiana State Saturday and I'd be very surprised if we didn't.
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good, because ISU will beat Bradley Wednesday night.
 
BUbraves2006 maybe you should just keep your bashing to our rival ISU and not try to bring other sports teams into it.

Out of curiosity do you think it is The Cubs 1908 World Series Championship the White Sox fans are so envious of, or is it the Cubs crumbling stadium with obstructed views that make the Sox fans so jealous.
 
Please guy's, most of us are on the same side.....let's stay on topic.

phantom...I have made suggestions for years about what I think ISU can do to get better crowds...but as you'd expect, nobody really cares what I think.

geez....you have 20,000 students within walking distance!!

You have more alums within driving distance than BU does by a long shot! There is little else to do in the B/N area this time of year. It's unbelieveable that a winninng and exciting team doesn't draw better.
 
Cooksey, don't you know what I meant by "SAD". I guess I should have said terrible. I thought ISU was winning this year. 7000 is a good crowd for a State University? If you are a Sox fan, join the club. You won't find a better or bigger, not size wise, Sox fan than me. How do you think I got my nickname? I'll be going to a few games in Tucson in a few weeks. Good to see ISU and BU fans can agree on something. Used to be against ISU 100% but lately their coaches, yes even the last one, seem to have more class than before, so I wish them more luck than usual.
 
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