Individual performances in the Valley last night.

[MikeCash]

While Warren and Osiris were putting on a show, most other "stars" in the league were no-shows.

P'Allen 1 for 8, 3 points, 3 turnovers.
Kevin Dillard 3 for 11, 6 points, 4 turnovers.
Kwadzo Ahelegbe 3 for 13, 12 points.
Adam Koch 2 for 8, 8 points.
Toure' Murry 1 for 8, 3 points.
J.T. Durley 3 for 10, 10 points.
Jake Kelly 3 points, 0 rebounds.

 

[tornado]

rusty?
or simply ill prepared because of weak non-conference schedules?

 

[SaintLouBrave22]

While Warren and Osiris were putting on a show, most other "stars" in the league were no-shows.

P'Allen 1 for 8, 3 points, 3 turnovers.
Kevin Dillard 3 for 11, 6 points, 4 turnovers.
Kwadzo Ahelegbe 3 for 13, 12 points.
Adam Koch 2 for 8, 8 points.
Toure' Murry 1 for 8, 3 points.
J.T. Durley 3 for 10, 10 points.
Jake Kelly 3 points, 0 rebounds.

Never have I considered P'Crap a star...more a Showboat than anything.

Also can I add that Durley is just coming into more PT and has yet to really prove anything about his game.

Kelly is a transfer who suffered a bad MCL injury

Dillard and Murry are both Soph. who while expected to be their teams #1 will most certainly have those type of nights as they aren't real true superstars, otherwise, why would they be at SIU and Wichita St?


Finally, everyone knows that Koch lives at the foul line and thats where he generates the majority of his scoring. Without cheap foul calls and bail outs, he wouldn't average in double figs.

Ahelegbe is a stud, and I truly believe that after watching how he ripped BU apart in the tournament last year down the stretch of the game, but every player is not without a bad shooting night.



That being said, and as much as I hate to say it, Osiris will be tough to remove from PoY.

 

[tornado]

ADub is going to be in the running

 

[afan]

rusty?
or simply ill prepared because of weak non-conference schedules?

Can't anything be done about the terribly weak schedule that Illinois State continues to have year after year and the negative impact that it has on the rest of the league? Obviously the coach does not listen or care and continues on with his own agenda. Apparently, a few other teams seem to follow ISU's lead as well.

 

[tornado]

afan - message board posters and bloggers all over cyberspace are doing everything they can to call out ISU, and
I see that it's working.... now many of the Valley beat writers and even some in the national press are also
pointing to the charade they call a non-conference schedule, and calling them out on it

Here's the Missouri State writer--
"Illinois State. A soft schedule has helped the Redbirds to a shiny record"
http://www.news-leader.com/article/...ssouri-Valley-Conference-picture-taking-shape

The Wichita beat writer also just highlighted the farse of a non-con they have...


And -- Just today this story appears...
"MVC Basketball: League Depth Could Hurt/Help Multiple Bid Aspirations"
"The Redbirds have not endured a tough schedule like their conference-mates"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...depth-could-hurthelp-multiple-bid-aspirations

and this blog.........
"Illinois State, 4th Weakest OOC Schedule (in the entirety of Division I)
??“ The Redbirds play potential Top 50 Niagara, a good Utah squad, and decent teams in Central Michigan, Ohio,
and their projected BracketBuster matchup. However, their rest of their opponents are terrible. I predict Illinois
State will win 23+ games in ??™09-??™10, but will have little chance at an at-large bid or a good seed should they win
the Valley. Despite playing in a strong conference Illinois State??™s non-conference schedule virtually prevents them
from having a top 60 RPI ranking even if they go 26-7."

http://futurerpi.blogspot.com/2009/11/ten-softest-non-conference-schedules.html

 

[afan]

Thank you

Thank you

afan - message board posters and bloggers all over cyberspace are doing everything they can to call out ISU, and
I see that it's working.... now many of the Valley beat writers and even some in the national press are also
pointing to the charade they call a non-conference schedule, and calling them out on it

Here's the Missouri State writer--
"Illinois State. A soft schedule has helped the Redbirds to a shiny record"
http://www.news-leader.com/article/...ssouri-Valley-Conference-picture-taking-shape

The Wichita beat writer also just highlighted the farse of a non-con they have...

Thank you for the additional information, pero, que lastima! (but, what a shame)


And -- Just today this story appears...
"MVC Basketball: League Depth Could Hurt/Help Multiple Bid Aspirations"
"The Redbirds have not endured a tough schedule like their conference-mates"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...depth-could-hurthelp-multiple-bid-aspirations

and this blog.........
"Illinois State, 4th Weakest OOC Schedule (in the entirety of Division I)
??“ The Redbirds play potential Top 50 Niagara, a good Utah squad, and decent teams in Central Michigan, Ohio,
and their projected BracketBuster matchup. However, their rest of their opponents are terrible. I predict Illinois
State will win 23+ games in ??™09-??™10, but will have little chance at an at-large bid or a good seed should they win
the Valley. Despite playing in a strong conference Illinois State??™s non-conference schedule virtually prevents them
from having a top 60 RPI ranking even if they go 26-7."

http://futurerpi.blogspot.com/2009/11/ten-softest-non-conference-schedules.html

Thanks, Tornado. Pero, que lastima (but, what a shame). Sounds like the ISU coach refuses to listen.

 

[tornado]

plus, we all just like to harass the Redbirds...

 

[saluki762]

I would argue that as our only preseason all Valley selection Tony Freeman is our star player and he had 19 pts, 4 assts, 3 stls, and shot 70% in 24 minutes so I would say he had an alright game.