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Iowa high school boy defaults state tournament wrestling match because his opponent is a girl

I don't think mixed HS wrestling is appropriate at all. Too much angst at that age. The boy was put in a lose-lose situation....like playing an instate. ;)
 
Some guys would pay good money to wrestle a female. B4L is one of them.:-o

This is 2011 last I checked and if a girl wants to go out there and compete and can then why not?

BTW..How did the girl finish?
 
I respect the young lady for going out and competing and if his reasons where because of religious beliefs, I respect the young man as well.
 
tornado said:
then why not a boy go out there and compete in softball or volleyball?
would everyone respect them, too?
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Boys can play softball and volleyball. IESA is beginning boys volleyball in the very near future.

As for softball, the boys can play either a summer or fall league in most towns. Or he can opt for baseball, which is also available in many towns.
 
BradleyJD said:
Yes, I understand that. However, boys still have opportunities to play both softball and volleyball.
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so you're saying that boys have to look for other opportunities outside of school -- but girls don't have to do so -- they MUST be allowed to play on the boys' teams?

I see a stark difference here in an area that people seem to want to call "equality"...
this instead is hypocrisy....saying that if a girl is good enough to compete on the boys' team, then she should be allowed to because of rules on "equality"..
but if a boy is good enough to play on a girls' team then he is prohibited....and then you go and look for some reason to justify prohibiting them..

Again -- I simply cite that this is NOT "equality" and it is not fairness...it's an artifically rigged and hypocritical situation that gives the girls what they want but prohibits the boys in the exact same, identical situation...


Here's how ludicrous some of these rulings are...

In Los Angeles, where they even had some coed soccer teams, a boy wanted to play in a league that did not have a boys team so he requested to play on one of the girls teams.
Initially his request was honored, but as soon as he started practicing, the entire league was willing to shut down to prevent this from happening
-- so this is NOT about cheating a girl out of a spot on a team -- they were willing to cheat the entire league full of girls out of spots if that's what it would take to prohibit the boy from playing on a girls team.
http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20100317/NEWS/303179993

Does anyone recall this story...Dixon High School did not have a boys bowling team in 1975, so they allowed four boys to bowl on the high school girls bowling team.
the uproar was NATIONWIDE...and kids literally QUIT other opposing schools' teams to protest -- but the Dixon girls high school bowling team went all the way to state and won the State Championship!!
Shortly thereafter IHSA permanently BANNED any boy from ever playing on a girls team again!
I guess this is a flat out admission that boys and girls are NOT equal,
Other schools have since tried this but the teams with boys are banned from state tournament play!
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-01-12/sports/8902250534_1_bowling-boys-sophomore
http://www.ihsa.org/activity/bwl/records/team1-2.htm
 
Tornado--do you really believe the stuff you are saying or just trying to get a reaction? Come on now.

I don't claim to be a religious expert...but what religion says you can't compete against women?
 
I am not going to get into an argument about religion, but who are we to define what any religion says about this? If anyone believes it is immoral to wrestle a woman and bases it on their interpretation of their religion, then we should respect that, as long as it doesn't harm others or our society.
 
I see.. canadian -- now you've imposed yet another rule that the boys have to justify -- they have to prove their religion when competing against the girls....:roll::roll:

it's hypocrisy to say you want equality then ban the boys from doing exactly what it is you want the girls to be free to do...
but then we've seen massive evidence of this hypocrisy before......
remember the "potty parity"?? Women claim they want equality in bathroom facilities in public arenas...but then they really DON'T wont equality -- they want a special extra number of potties because they claim they are inherently different and NEED MORE potties than the men...
this is absurd to even use the word equality in this discussion...
boys & girls are different and the insane inability for some to NOT see it doesn't make the statement wrong
 
tornado said:
so you're saying that boys have to look for other opportunities outside of school -- but girls don't have to do so -- they MUST be allowed to play on the boys' teams?
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Yes, that is what I am saying.

I think most people can readily see that boys playing against girls would obviously have an unfair physical advantage, in most cases.

If you believe boys should be allowed to play on girls teams, then I can accept your opinion. It's okay to disagree.

I, personally, do not believe boys should be allowed on girls teams. That clearly would be unfair.

When a girl plays in a boys league she usually would do so at a huge disadvantage. Not a huge advantage as boys would have in a girls league.
 
I agree with everything you say...but I think what we have here are women's activists trying to jack the system --

they want it one way when it's boys playing on girls' teams, then they want it the other way when it's girls on boys' teams.

All I'd like to see are rules and laws that are consistent...
either boy & girls are different so laws can be passed as such...

or they are the same and laws should be passed as such....
but stop giving one side the opportunity to have it either way they want in every situation..
 
tornado said:
I see.. canadian -- now you've imposed yet another rule that the boys have to justify -- they have to prove their religion when competing against the girls....:roll::roll:

it's hypocrisy to say you want equality then ban the boys from doing exactly what it is you want the girls to be free to do...
but then we've seen massive evidence of this hypocrisy before......
remember the "potty parity"?? Women claim they want equality in bathroom facilities in public arenas...but then they really DON'T wont equality -- they want a special extra number of potties because they claim they are inherently different and NEED MORE potties than the men...
this is absurd to even use the word equality in this discussion...
boys & girls are different and the insane inability for some to NOT see it doesn't make the statement wrong
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Tornado--I didn't say anything about imposing a rule. It was honestly just a question I had. Nothing more, nothing less. I give the kid credit for doing what he felt was right, despite negative consequences.

I was honestly asking out of religious curiosity. What religion would have this kind of clause in it where competing in sports against a girl would be considered something against his faith.

The # of potties in public areas is your deal. I don't have a dog in that fight. I don't care how many potties women have as long as I can go when I need to :)
 
canadian -- I see lots of things people do in following their religion -- kissing beads, wearing headgear, braiding their beards, homeschooling their kids, refusing to play cards or go to dances, bowing to statues in a church, etc...
I doubt anyone can find a clause in their holy books that proves they HAVE to do those things, but they do and I respect those things as long as those actions don't clash with the rights of others.
 
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