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ISU Hosting Exempt Tourney Next Season

tornado

tornado

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Details are still thin, but it appears that ISU will host a 4-team tourney with
themselves plus Nicholls State, UC-Santa Barbara, Winston-Salem State.
Here is the link being discussed over on Valleytalk.
http://basketballtravelers.com/pages/m_wvinvitational.htm

Missouri State also appears to be hosting a similar tourney in December of 2008 with Norfolk State, Middle Tennessee, Cal-Irvine
http://basketballtravelers.com/pages/m_btitipoff_northerniowa.htm

These guys (Basketball Travelers) are the same people who run the Top of the World Classic in Alaska and Paradise Jam in the Virgin Islands.




edit....I resisted the temptation to comment on the quality of opponents,
that is until I went to the Redbird board and saw their thread about this tournament.
In their thread they rip on BU and criticize BU's involvement in the CBI, and use the age-old Bradley-suc*s
line (surprise - they seem to allow unprompted BU-bashing!)

NEWSFLASH--- hey ISU guys....do I need to tell you that the teams in the CBI all had RPI's from around 100 to 80's and 90's (Tulsa, Ohio..)
The best team among the above in this low-rent early season tourney is an 89 RPI while the others are 248, 311.
I can only imagine the criticism had BU hosted those guys or maybe Missouri-St. Louis (DII) and SEMO like last year.
 
This gets me thinking - what games do we know about for Bradley's schedule next season? I know I saw some talk a couple months ago, but haven't seen much since.
 
I believe we go to play @ Mich. St. again and Butler is at least coming to Peoria. Not sure about other non-conf opponents. Loyola is coming to Peoria too, I believe.
 
tornado said:
NEWSFLASH--- hey ISU guys....do I need to tell you that the teams in the CBI all had RPI's from around 100 to 80's and 90's (Tulsa, Ohio..)
The best team among the above in this low-rent early season tourney is an 89 RPI while the others are 248, 311.
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Well...given the fact that ISU's schedule last year was a contributing factor against them being selected to the NCAA tournament, one would think people at ISU would have learned a lesson... Then again maybe not...:idea: ;) :rolleyes:
 
mportsch said:
This gets me thinking - what games do we know about for Bradley's schedule next season? I know I saw some talk a couple months ago, but haven't seen much since.
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ser_solace said:
I believe we go to play @ Mich. St. again and Butler is at least coming to Peoria. Not sure about other non-conf opponents. Loyola is coming to Peoria too, I believe.
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Also I think we get UIC at home, and UW-Milwaukee away
 
Come on Redbirds! You're dragging the whole Valley rpi down with that schedule! UC Santa Barbara, maybe. But those other two?

And where the heck is Winston-Salem State located???
 
I would really like to see Bradley play in an exempt in-season tournament, but not like this. It looks like ISU took the Illini Classic concept and one upped it by playing all three teams.

ISU is certainly putting their marketing department to task by trying to get them to get people to come to Redbird Arena over a holiday against poor opponents.
 
To be fair, a couple of ISU guys posting over on Valley Talk (one of whom also posts on here) are bemoaning the quality of the opponents for this tournament. Not everyone in Redbirdland is happy about this...
 
BradleyBrave said:
I had heard that the game next year may be pushed back a year because the two schools can't agree on a date.
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I sure hope not. I anxiously await the return of Dunson to Hilton. He is a class individual and I wish him well in every game but that one!

I am hoping the game takes place next year because I believe that would give ISU a likely schedule of at Iowa, at UNI, at Minnesota, home against Drake, home against Bradley and home against Oregon State.
 
Bravesfan said:
Come on Redbirds! You're dragging the whole Valley rpi down with that schedule! UC Santa Barbara, maybe. But those other two?

And where the heck is Winston-Salem State located???
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They are located near Marlyand-Eastern Shore and Florida Gulf Coast.
 
I think a little tournament like this is fine... It's a bit early to judge ISU's schedule just based on these three opponents. For all I know they've stacked the other 9 games up against some really tough teams.
 
Let's go to the Big Board, shall we:

NON-CONFERENCE SOS

Bradley 96

Illinois State 117

You guys absolutely killed us there. 21 whole spots.

And did someone really just boast about Iowa and Iowa State? Yikes. :eek:
 
cpacmel said:
Let's go to the Big Board, shall we:

NON-CONFERENCE SOS

Bradley 96

Illinois State 117

You guys absolutely killed us there. 21 whole spots.

And did someone really just boast about Iowa and Iowa State? Yikes. :eek:
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Fine cpacmel you got me there. But from what I read about that "Big Time" ISU non conference schedule, I have to guess the Birds would have killed to had ISU or Iowa on their schedule versus the great gets in Chicago State and Ball State not to mention a D2 game with UMSL.

And I also wouldnt be surprised if ISU would have been real happy to have had that 96 non conferences RPI versus that NCAA at large killing 117.

So you go ahead and laugh at me regarding ISU or Iowa State and Ill laugh at the birds for scheduling so poorly that an overall record of 25-9 and 13-5 was not good enough for an at large bid to the NCAA and friend that one sole reason is that 117 non conference rpi.
 
houstontxbrave said:
Fine cpacmel you got me there. But from what I read about that "Big Time" ISU non conference schedule, I have to guess the Birds would have killed to had ISU or Iowa on their schedule versus the great gets in Chicago State and Ball State not to mention a D2 game with UMSL.
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Do you see a big difference between Iowa and Chicago State?

Iowa 13-19 RPI 192 Chicago State 8-17 RPI 213

Don't get caught up in "name recognition" or conference affiliation when determining a team's power. Louisiana-Monroe beat Iowa and beat them in Iowa City too. Not that you guys are fans of KW, but wasn't he the one who said something like "IF I have one more Bradley fan tell it was Huge win beating Iowa, I am going to puke"

Ball State was a return game from the BracketBuster from 2007. Can't do anything about them. (think of it the same way you guys had to return the game with NIU back in 2005)

The D2 game is a joke. No way to even try and debate that. But just 2 years ago Bradley did play SIU-Edwardsville. And a few years past that, didn't BU play Arkansas Monticello?
And I also wouldnt be surprised if ISU would have been real happy to have had that 96 non conferences RPI versus that NCAA at large killing 117.
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That wouldn't have changed the fact that we didn't beat a single team in the NCAA field. And it wouldn't have made our record any better than what it was against the top 50 (2-5)
So you go ahead and laugh at me regarding ISU or Iowa State and Ill laugh at the birds for scheduling so poorly that an overall record of 25-9 and 13-5 was not good enough for an at large bid to the NCAA and friend that one sole reason is that 117 non conference rpi.
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You think the reason ISU didn't get in was it's 117 non-conference RPI?

I guess they didn't apply that to these schools and their non-conference RPI's:

St. Joes 119
Baylor 131
Miami (FLA) 144
West Va 157
Nova 159
Oregon 167
Clemson 183
Texas A&M 224

ISU didn't get in because they didn't beat a single tourney team. I believe they were 0-5 against them. They also only had 2 wins against the top 50. (in 7 chances)
 
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