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It's Nice to Be Wrong About BU

tornado

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A nice article by Dave reynolds about how well BU has done this year.

"considering how entertaining and unselfish these kids have been on the court and how maturely they've handled themselves off it.

They've been a true team in every sense of the word. Jim Les and his BU coaching staff deserve great credit for pulling it all together."

http://pjstar.com/stories/021207/DAV_BCC0U5B0.W02.php
 
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.
 
I do not agree that if BU won out and lost the Championship game of the MVC they may not make the NCAA. Other than that a great clip.....
 
Unfortunately, I think a running the table to the MVC final probably wont be enough. If the Braves do that it will still be near impossible to makethe case for Bradley over Creighton, SIU, and Mo. St. So the question becomes: Can the Valley be a four team league? I think it should be, but its hard to make the case for Bradley over middle of the road Big 10 teams when they lost to both Illinois and Michigan St. Likewise its an uphill battle over most ACC middlings like FSU who has beat Duke and Florida, or NC ST. who beat UNC. That said, who knows anything can happen between now and March.
 
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

I know Paige. In fact, last year when I made the trip up to Allstate Arena for the DePaul/Bradley game I met her and her father afterwards. She rooted for us despite then attending DePaul, so it's not as if she has some axe to grind.

I think her concerns are genuine but I don't think they're legitimate. BU cheerleaders are not the most scantily-clad out there, and there is a functional element to having less clothing. "Objectification" is in the eye of the beholder....
 
I like Dave Reynolds.
He is fair and never seems to rip on BU as if it is his job at the PJS.
Even when he has an honestly low opinion of BU as he did when he voted them down in the Valley preseason, he is fair enough to acknowledge they've done much better!
 
tornado said:
I like Dave Reynolds.
He is fair and never seems to rip on BU as if it is his job at the PJS.
Even when he has an honestly low opinion of BU as he did when he voted them down in the Valley preseason, he is fair enough to acknowledge they've done much better!

In this article, Dave Reynolds shows how to present the columnist's opinion without the blaring that some other writers seem to think is necessary. It happens in all professions, not just journalism, where people start to think that their opinion is the news and not the story they are covering.
 
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

This writer points the finger at the middle-aged man as the problem, but she needs to look no further than her own political party to blame. I suggest starting with the 'Hollywood Left'. Don't blame the Middle-aged Conservative Man... he is just a spectator at the GAME. Really, all the liberal left wants anymore of the middle-aged man is to be just that.. a spectator, an observer. Just sit back and shut up - because whatever you say is gonna be politically incorrect.

Now, go back to your teaching of 7th graders and brainwash them all by recreating history.

And I will go back into my quiet dark hole that is reserved for middle-aged men.

:roll:
 
MacabreMob said:
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

This writer points the finger at the middle-aged man as the problem, but she needs to look no further than her own political party to blame. I suggest starting with the 'Hollywood Left'. Don't blame the Middle-aged Conservative Man... he is just a spectator at the GAME. Really, all the liberal left wants anymore of the middle-aged man is to be just that.. a spectator, an observer. Just sit back and shut up - because whatever you say is gonna be politically incorrect.

Now, go back to your teaching of 7th graders and brainwash them all by recreating history.

And I will go back into my quiet dark hole that is reserved for middle-aged men.

:roll:


Loved this Post! 8)
 
yourbradleybraves! said:
MacabreMob said:
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

This writer points the finger at the middle-aged man as the problem, but she needs to look no further than her own political party to blame. I suggest starting with the 'Hollywood Left'. Don't blame the Middle-aged Conservative Man... he is just a spectator at the GAME. Really, all the liberal left wants anymore of the middle-aged man is to be just that.. a spectator, an observer. Just sit back and shut up - because whatever you say is gonna be politically incorrect.

Now, go back to your teaching of 7th graders and brainwash them all by recreating history.

And I will go back into my quiet dark hole that is reserved for middle-aged men.

:roll:


Loved this Post! 8)

Can I second that? :o
 
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

man she really got chewed out w/ the replies for the most part. :D
 
Dallas Brave said:
tornado said:
I like Dave Reynolds.
He is fair and never seems to rip on BU as if it is his job at the PJS.
Even when he has an honestly low opinion of BU as he did when he voted them down in the Valley preseason, he is fair enough to acknowledge they've done much better!

In this article, Dave Reynolds shows how to present the columnist's opinion without the blaring that some other writers seem to think is necessary. It happens in all professions, not just journalism, where people start to think that their opinion is the news and not the story they are covering.


Dont forget that Dave is the PJS BU beat writer. It is not his job to editorialize. I agree he has always been fair when covering BU. Kirk Wessler (as I am assuming some are alluding to) is aneditorial writer. It is his job to opine and he does it often, much to the disdain of some BU fans. But they have different roles in writing about BU
 
BI_Brave_alum said:
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

man she really got chewed out w/ the replies for the most part. :D

As she deserves to! As a Bradley Cheerleader I was very offended by the criticism and negativity that surrounded her article. I am a science major, involved in other extracurricular activities including a national service fraternity and other volunteer and social activities. I am going to attend graduate school next year to earn my Ph.D. in chemistry. Her article does not consider the people behind the uniform, but instead puts down our hard work and intelligence which already is rarely recognized. I think I speak for my entire team when I say that we are all deeply offended by this article. I personally hope that she never makes any of her students feel like less of an intelligent, strong, athletic woman for wearing a skirt.
 
This writer points the finger at the middle-aged man as the problem, but she needs to look no further than her own political party to blame. I suggest starting with the 'Hollywood Left'. Don't blame the Middle-aged Conservative Man... he is just a spectator at the GAME. Really, all the liberal left wants anymore of the middle-aged man is to be just that.. a spectator, an observer. Just sit back and shut up - because whatever you say is gonna be politically incorrect.

Now, go back to your teaching of 7th graders and brainwash them all by recreating history.

And I will go back into my quiet dark hole that is reserved for middle-aged men.

:roll:

Non basketball post of the year and it's only Feb.
 
BUCheer07 said:
BI_Brave_alum said:
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

man she really got chewed out w/ the replies for the most part. :D

As she deserves to! As a Bradley Cheerleader I was very offended by the criticism and negativity that surrounded her article. I am a science major, involved in other extracurricular activities including a national service fraternity and other volunteer and social activities. I am going to attend graduate school next year to earn my Ph.D. in chemistry. Her article does not consider the people behind the uniform, but instead puts down our hard work and intelligence which already is rarely recognized. I think I speak for my entire team when I say that we are all deeply offended by this article. I personally hope that she never makes any of her students feel like less of an intelligent, strong, athletic woman for wearing a skirt.

I respectfully disagree with most of the opinions stated here. BUCheer07, I don't think her intent in writing the editorial was to demonize the cheerleaders themselves, or Bradley as a whole. What she was doing was pointing out that cheerleading uniforms are a microcosm for society as a whole.

Can anybody deny that cheerleading uniforms have gotten smaller and smaller? That's not really up for debate; it's a fact. Simply looking at pictures of years past will confirm that.

Likewise, does her editorial state that its the cheerleader's fault? It does not. it doesn't really pin the blame on the 'middle age male' spectator, either.

She was simply lamenting the constant 'oversexing' of society. And in that, I agree. She was pointing out that its become so pervasive, that one can't find refuge anywhere, even a family-friendly college basketball game.

Whose to blame? I have my own opinions, but Ill keep them to myself. I just wanted to give her my support as I happen to agree with her, but felt that her article is being misinterpreted.

And, for the record, BUCheer07, I think you cheerleaders do a GREAT job. I know the uniforms aren't your choice and have never held them against you. Hey, im a 26 year old man, i enjoy seeing the coeds in their outfits, and I enjoy the dance team's outfits as well. But, Im also reasonable and I understand where she's coming from.
 
GObravesGO1981 said:
Dallas Brave said:
A very well-written article with a balanced, objective perspective presented. A few more articles of this caliber and my faith in the PJS might get restored.

Just when things were looking up they let someone who obviously doesn't know what they're doing submit this... http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021107/OP__BC0U0FST.059.php

Is this supposed to be a letter to the editor? If it was then I understand the complete opinionated point of view of the letter, if this was an article written by a PJS staff writer or a person paid by the PJS then the total disregard for research into the apparent non change in uniform, the decision to opinonate the personalities of the Cheerleaders, the idea she knows what is or isnt objective to a middle aged man or the simple disregard for any type of journalistic intergrety is on the PJS.

Again, I do not know if this was written as a letter to the editor but if it was not the fingers that need to be pointed are at the PJS for deciding to print an article written in a completely unprofessional, uniformed manner. Shame on you PJS.
 
tornado said:
I like Dave Reynolds.
He is fair and never seems to rip on BU as if it is his job at the PJS.
Even when he has an honestly low opinion of BU as he did when he voted them down in the Valley preseason, he is fair enough to acknowledge they've done much better!

We definately need more people like Dave in the media. Are you listening Kirk?! :wink:
 
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