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Jim Les a Politician?

Beninator said:
sorry to burst your bubble but Belichik isnt the only NFL coach to do that.. The NFL injury report thing has been going on for years.....:rolleyes:
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My point was that he makes a complete mockery of the whole thing because absolutely everyone knows that Brady's fine and Belichick is just lying. He started doing it after one of the other coaches pulled a Les-Ruffin Illinois St thing. How would we react if next year before every ISU game Jankovich said that Eldridge was beat up when he looked completely fine?
 
VeveJones007 said:
My point was that he makes a complete mockery of the whole thing because absolutely everyone knows that Brady's fine and Belichick is just lying. He started doing it after one of the other coaches pulled a Les-Ruffin Illinois St thing. How would we react if next year before every ISU game Jankovich said that Eldridge was beat up when he looked completely fine?
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Well NFL coaches have been doing this for years.... The only time I pay attention to an NFL injury report is if the report states that a player is definately not going to play in an upcoming game.... AS for your ISU comparison, if Jank had publicly stated an injury in the media for Eldrigdge and Eldridge was and or appeared fine, I would chalk everything up to "coach speak" about a player with a minor injury and state that BU should prepare for a healthy game from Eldridge.... I wouldnt loose any sleep over whether a lie had taken place in the media.
 
Out of balance, when you start a thread on a Bradley basketball board cutting up our coach, IMO you shouldn't tell other posters to chill out. Most of us are happy with coach Les. You shouldn't expect us to let it go without defending him.
 
Until school ends or one of the players tells him that they are leaving I believe his statement is true today but subject to change any day. (end of statement)
 
I think this whole thread is funny and can't believe it managed two pages.

Everything JL said here makes perfect sense to me. They never stop recruiting because anything can happen. I don't think it should be that hard to understand
 
lefty said:
I think this whole thread is funny and can't believe it managed two pages.
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Go to a top header titled "Quick Links", select "User Control Panel", Then "Edit Options".... then 3rd section down titled "Thread Display Options", for "Number of Posts to Show Per Page" select "40 Posts Per Page" in the drop down box....

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Then this thread is still (currently) only 1 page.
 
MacabreMob said:
Go to a top header titled "Quick Links", select "User Control Panel", Then "Edit Options".... then 3rd section down titled "Thread Display Options", for "Number of Posts to Show Per Page" select "40 Posts Per Page" in the drop down box....

;)

Then this thread is still (currently) only 1 page.
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awesome!..by the way Lefty.....why is it I always agree with what you are saying? :)

Guess there is not enough other things to talk about ;)
 
Scouter said:
I didn't say I thought Jim Les shouldn't have told the truth. I just said he shouldn't have lied. If he didn't want to disclose anything about Ruffin's status, he shouldn't have said anything at all. Les has been around the media long enough to know that -- at least I'd think so.

I'm not stupid enough to think that coaches and players aren't always up front with what's going on. And I realize that not wanting to disclose information about injuries and whatnot is gamesmanship. All I'm saying is if you don't want to talk about it, then don't talk about it. Just don't lie. It's simple as that. Because if you do and the media finds out, it certainly doesn't do anything to improve your relationship with the media. And, from what a lot of people say on here, that's something BU and the PJS could improve on.
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Amazing. I won't even dignify this post with a response!
 
MacabreMob said:
Go to a top header titled "Quick Links", select "User Control Panel", Then "Edit Options".... then 3rd section down titled "Thread Display Options", for "Number of Posts to Show Per Page" select "40 Posts Per Page" in the drop down box....

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Then this thread is still (currently) only 1 page.
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Thanks MM
way to much work for me there ....maybe when I retire I'll tackle that issue :)
 
Bravesfan said:
I'm sorry. I just had to respond to this.

You know, I understand not everyone is the biggest Jim Les fan here, and I know occasionally he gets called out for a coaching move, or disciplinary move or whatever (what coach doesn't?). But to be nitpicking over this statement? Come on! This is right out of the Kirk Wessler school or morality. A coach can't ever hide anything, or a coach never ever is truthful because he doesn't want to reveal details about something that hasn't even occurred yet!

Even if you are right Out of Balance, why should he reveal his entire hand here if he still may be trying to secure another player or two, and risk scaring off potential recruits? I just don't understand why people have to get so nitpicky over every little statement someone says.
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I agree with you 100%. I wasn't nitpicking and my intent was mistaken by a few! I would direct you to my last quote to (won't name), where I explained what all my intent was but because I rebuttal in the same matter to the way my mantality was attacted, I got the axed but theirs remain posted. Trust me I am a JL fan and met NO harm in anyway to him and do fully understand his intentions.
 
Out of Balance, I'm yet to read in that article where JL said he wasn't looking at anymore players. Coaches are always looking. Don't feel alone on having posts deleted. I have seen a lot worse on this board than the ones I've had deleted.
 
Out of Balance said:
I agree with you 100%. I wasn't nitpicking and my intent was mistaken by a few! I would direct you to my last quote to (won't name), where I explained what all my intent was but because I rebuttal in the same matter to the way my mantality was attacted, I got the axed but theirs remain posted. Trust me I am a JL fan and met NO harm in anyway to him and do fully understand his intentions.
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You're OK with me OB. I knew what you were trying to do. Some (ex: Scouter) just got suckered into your trap;) :lol:
 
Chico said:
Out of Balance, I'm yet to read in that article where JL said he wasn't looking at anymore players. Coaches are always looking. Don't feel alone on having posts deleted. I have seen a lot worse on this board than the ones I've had deleted.
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There have not been any posts deleted for language. But a few posts were removed for specifically naming or suggesting players who posters thought were being asked to leave.
 
Hmmm...here are some stats that'll get some arguments going...
Jim Les is actually right in the middle of some very good company

Career head coaching record/winning pct.........

Jim Molinari - career .545
Jim Molinari's last 3 years .417, 5 years .462, last 6 years .471
Jim Les -career .538
Jim Les' .......last 3 years .613, last 4 years .542, 5 years .536, last 6 years .538

Comparison....
Kelvin Sampson's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (83-92) .474
Mike Krzyzewski's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-72) .555
Dana Altman's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-86) .511
Bill Self's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (97-76) .561
Travis Ford's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (74-95) .438
Dr. Tom Davis' 4 years at Stanford: (58-59) .496
James Naismith (the inventor of the game)/first 6 years: (31-39) .443
 
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