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Jordan Prosser

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I thought this deserved its own thread...

In the 3 games in the TOCC, Jordan averaged 26 ppg, 16 rpg.

Last night vs. Olympia he had 20 pts., 14 rebounds

now his averages are - 24.5 ppg, 15.5 rpg

here are some pics...looks like he was constantly doubleteamed


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Ok, I want to ask this because I have never seen Prosser play in person. Everyone on here who sees him talks about how physical his body is and that he has a good inside and outside game.

I really would like to know from someone who can objectively tell me, if he is talented enough to step into Division 1 basketball and contribute as a freshman?

I know everyone is excited because he is local etc, but I am concerned because of the level of high school competition he faces nightly. Few smaller school players are prepared to step into D1 and contribute. Carlton Fay played often at SIU last year but at times looked overwelmed.

Now I will say, contributing as a freshman is not the absolute most important thing, getting better yearly and being a force as junior and senior are more important.
 
houstontxbrave said:
Ok, I want to ask this because I have never seen Prosser play in person. Everyone on here who sees him talks about how physical his body is and that he has a good inside and outside game.

I really would like to know from someone who can objectively tell me, if he is talented enough to step into Division 1 basketball and contribute as a freshman?

I know everyone is excited because he is local etc, but I am concerned because of the level of high school competition he faces nightly. Few smaller school players are prepared to step into D1 and contribute. Carlton Fay played often at SIU last year but at times looked overwelmed.

Now I will say, contributing as a freshman is not the absolute most important thing, getting better yearly and being a force as junior and senior are more important.
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He will be able to contribute as a freshman. He is physically strong enough to handle the rigors of DI, and is skilled enough around the basket to give us something we're sorely lacking, which is a legitimate inside scoring threat. He also will benefit greatly from having capable players around him, and playing in a system where he won't be double- and triple-teamed nightly. I don't foresee JP starting as a freshman, but I do see him contributing immediately.
 
I also think he can contribute right away, especially offensively. He is skilled as far as knocking down a jumper, and finishing around the bucket. Has a great lower body, which is more important, imo, than a chiseled upper body. I think his biggest challenge, at first, will be defensively. That is understandable coming from a small division high school to a Division 1 program. He appears to a have a good basketball IQ, so I'm sure he'll be able to adjust fairly quickly. He'll also benefit tremendously from BU's strength and conditioning programs, his body structure could definitely handle some more weight on it.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
I also think he can contribute right away, especially offensively. He is skilled as far as knocking down a jumper, and finishing around the bucket. Has a great lower body, which is more important, imo, than a chiseled upper body. I think his biggest challenge, at first, will be defensively. That is understandable coming from a small division high school to a Division 1 program. He appears to a have a good basketball IQ, so I'm sure he'll be able to adjust fairly quickly. He'll also benefit tremendously from BU's strength and conditioning programs, his body structure could definitely handle some more weight on it.
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What I like the most about JP is that I don't see him wanting or needing to roam the perimeter. He plays in the paint. He can make FT's, and that's really the only outside game he needs. Everyone gets so fixated on people's 'well-rounded' game and 'developing the 3'. We have too much of that already. I don't care if he ever develops a 3-point shot. His job will be to score inside, set screens, defend, and rebound. We haven't had anyone who could effectively do all 4 since the Sweet 16. That's what we should be wanting him to continue to develop. From what I have seen, he's already leaps and bounds ahead of even POB funadamentally, which is a good thing.
 
By the way.this was posted elsewhere, but I thought I'd reproduce it here...

our fellow poster "thecoach" who kept us informed on the Trusted Choice Tournament of Champions
has listed all the top performers and the All Tournament teams from the TOCC.


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Methodist Medical Center Invitational
Champions- Kinston, NC (3-0)
All-Tournament Team
MVP/MOP- Reggie Bullock, Kinston, 6'7" Jr.
33.0 ppg- 8.7 rpg- 3.7 spg, Broke several records: Most points in a game (36), Most Points in a tournament (99)

Ben Worner, Washington, 6'3" Sr.
25.0 ppg- 4.0 apg- Scored 31 points and had 6 3's against Fayette County.

Dyricus Simms-Edwards, Washington, 6'3" Sr.
22.3 ppg- 7.0 apg- Scored 33 points and had 7 assists in win over Fayette County

Noel Johnson, Fayette County, 6'7" Sr.
25.3 ppg- 6.3 rpg- Scored 35 points against Champaign Central

Angus Brandt, Lake Forest Academy, 6'10" Sr.
14.7 ppg- 9.0 rpg

Marquez Jones, Kinston, 6'3" Jr.
13.3 ppg- 3.7 apg

Malcolm Brogdon, Fayette County, 6'4" So.
17.7 ppg- 13.0 rpg- Led MMCI Tourney in rebounding as a Sophomore

HELITECH NATIONAL CLASSIC
CHAMPIONS- Chicago De La Salle, IL (3-0)
All-Tournament Team
MVP- Derek Needham, Chicago De La Salle, 6'0" Sr.
16.7 ppg- 3.7 apg- 3.3 spg

MOP- Michael Shaw, Chicago De La Salle, 6'8" So.
12.7 ppg- 7.3 rpg- Put on the best Highlight reel of the event with his 7 dunks

Richie Fisher, Chicago De La Salle, 5'10" Sr.
17.3 ppg- 3.7 apg

Nolan Dennis, Richland, 6'5" Sr.
22.3 ppg- 9.7 rpg- 3.3 apg

Jordan Davis, Tampa Sickles, 5'10" Jr.
10.3 ppg- 7.0 apg

Jarrion Norris, Cahokia, 6'4" Jr.
16.0 ppg- 5.7 rpg

Uftring Auto Group Invitational
Champions- Indianapolis Howe, IN (3-0)
All Tournament Team
MVP- Andre Hampton, Indianapolis Howe, 6'2" Jr.
24.7 ppg- Hit 10 3-pointers in a win over Eureka

MOP- Jordan Prosser, Eureka, 6'8" Sr.
26.0 ppg- 15.3 rpg, Broke several tournament records- Most rebounds in a tournament 46, career rebounds 76 and career points, 142.

Jacoby Cotton, East Peoria, 5'9" Sr.
14.0 ppg- 3.7 apg- 2.7 spg

P.J. Boutte, Indianapolis Howe, 5'9" So.
11.7 ppg- 6.7 apg- 4.3 spg , tied Tournament Record for most assists in one game- 11 v. East Peoria

Alex Cline, East Peoria, 6'5" Jr.
13.3 ppg- 8.7 rpg

Javonta Davis, St. Anne, 6'3" Jr.
12.7 ppg- 7.3 rpg

P.J. HOERR SHOOTOUT SERIES
All-Tournament Team
MVP- DeMarius Sumrell, Limestone, 6'1" Sr.
21 pts, 6 asts, 6 stls, 5 rbs and 5 dunks

MOP- Evan Richard, Cuba City, 6'3" Jr.
28 pts, 3 stls, 3 asts, 3 dunks

Donivine Stewart, Limestone, 6'0" So.
16 pts, 7 asts

Kevin Dwyer, Rockwood Summit, 6'7" Jr.
20 pts, 6 rbs, 3 asts

Wells Davis, Culver Military Academy, 6'5" So.
15 pts, 10 rbs

Max Bielfeldt, Peoria Notre Dame, 6'6" So.
18 pts, 7 rbs, 7 blks

Codey Funk, El Paso-Gridley, 6'7" So.
24 pts, 24 rbs, 5 blks- Broke a tournament record for most rebounds in one game with 24.

Six Biggest and Best Moments
* Kinston and Washington game- This game was more than basketball. It was about two great teams finding respect for one another as competitors, people and friends.

* Dyricus and Ben Worner combining for 64 points in a win over Fayette County.

* Watching the ultimate warrior, Jordan Prosser shatter every rebound record the tournament has ever known and becoming the all-time leading scorer and rebounder of the event.

* Honoring the greatest coach in Wisconsin History- Jerry Petitgoue. The 78-year old Petitgoue graciously accepted an award after his Cuba City team won his 727th game for him.

* Watching De La Salle play!!! They were a machine!!!

* Wall to Wall Basketball

* Five Biggest Disappointments
John Henson, Tampa Sickles (#3 Sr. in USA) did not play because of severely sprained ankle suffered two days before the event.

Jordan Manuel, Indianapolis Howe (Top 30 Junior in USA) did not play because of eligibility issues

Linn, MO played with two missing starters: 6'8" Sr. Mike Reinkemeyer and 6'8" Jr. Ryan Mosley.

Brady Zimmer of Delavan played one quarter before ramming heads with Travis Britt of Culver. He got 14 stitches and had a concussion and missed rest of game.

More people from the surrounding area didn't take advantage of all the wonderful games and amazing players!! You missed one heck of a good time!the coach
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THANKS......

one other comment...in Greg Stewart's coverage of the tournament....he said this...
"Limestone's Demarius Sumrell has averaged 17.5 points so far...Several other players — like ...Limestone's Marious Lobdell ...have stood out as well."
http://www.pjstar.com/preps/x1772970542/This-season-isnt-likely-to-be-turkey

But....Marious Lobdell is already graduated and is playing for ICC
http://icc.edu/athletics/basketballM/players_display.asp?id=474


The player he means is younger brother Marquis Lobdell...who transferred to Limestone this season from Manual
 
JPs game right now really reminds me of Bob Harstad from Creighton circa 1990. very physical face the basket offensive player who is an aggressive rebounder.
 
BradleyBrave said:
What I like the most about JP is that I don't see him wanting or needing to roam the perimeter. He plays in the paint. He can make FT's, and that's really the only outside game he needs. Everyone gets so fixated on people's 'well-rounded' game and 'developing the 3'. We have too much of that already. I don't care if he ever develops a 3-point shot. His job will be to score inside, set screens, defend, and rebound. We haven't had anyone who could effectively do all 4 since the Sweet 16. That's what we should be wanting him to continue to develop. From what I have seen, he's already leaps and bounds ahead of even POB funadamentally, which is a good thing.
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Like it or not BB, Prosser has already been quoted as saying he is working on his outside game because the BU coaching staff wants him to.
 
amettrick said:
Like it or not BB, Prosser has already been quoted as saying he is working on his outside game because the BU coaching staff wants him to.
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I've read that also but like BB we would like him to dominate the paint for us. In reality I'm sure JP has the goal to take his game to the next level and the only way to do that for him will be to develop an all around game. It did not hurt Larry Bird to be able to go inside out.
 
amettrick said:
Like it or not BB, Prosser has already been quoted as saying he is working on his outside game because the BU coaching staff wants him to.
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Outside is relative. POB developed an 'outside' game by extending his range out to 15-17 feet. I still don't consider that a perimeter game. Prosser projects out as a power 4 or true 5. He's going to play in the paint, set screens, and maybe pick-and-pop the 15-17 footer. He's not going to be jacking up 3's, and if that's anyone's goal for this kid then they're insane. I think the staff learned their lesson in trying to make a post player play outside with WE last year.
 
BradleyBrave said:
What I like the most about JP is that I don't see him wanting or needing to roam the perimeter. He plays in the paint. He can make FT's, and that's really the only outside game he needs. Everyone gets so fixated on people's 'well-rounded' game and 'developing the 3'. We have too much of that already. I don't care if he ever develops a 3-point shot. His job will be to score inside, set screens, defend, and rebound. We haven't had anyone who could effectively do all 4 since the Sweet 16. That's what we should be wanting him to continue to develop. From what I have seen, he's already leaps and bounds ahead of even POB funadamentally, which is a good thing.
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Oh, I agree with you BB. Maybe I should have clarified a little. I don't mean to say that JP is gonna be running around shooting jumpers. He certainly does have range to about 16 feet though. I think he prefers to stay primarily in the paint, and that's where his strong lower body comes in. I think that JP has developed a little mid-range game out of necessity at the high school level. Anyone who watched Eureka play could see JP doesn't have a whole lot of help, and JP is facing doube and triple teams even when he doesn't have the ball sometimes, so he has to leak out on the floor a little more to get some open looks. I'd love to see what he could do on the block when a team would be forced to play him straight up, or at least more honest than constant double and triple teams.

I mentioned his ability to step out and hit a 12-15 foot jumper because usually all freshman have strength issues when they first play division 1, especially post players. I think JP's all around basketball skills will allow him to contribute as a freshman until his physical skills catch up at this level.
 
If he can make freethrows then his range is pretty good right now as a 6-8 player that can shoot from 15 ft. out is a very valuable player to have on anyones team.
 
Double D said:
JPs game right now really reminds me of Bob Harstad from Creighton circa 1990. very physical face the basket offensive player who is an aggressive rebounder.
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From what I have seen of JP, this is a good comparison. Jordan has extremely well developed skills, and a good sense for where he should be on the court. He will be a good scorer and rebounder at the D1 level.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
Oh, I agree with you BB. Maybe I should have clarified a little. I don't mean to say that JP is gonna be running around shooting jumpers. He certainly does have range to about 16 feet though. I think he prefers to stay primarily in the paint, and that's where his strong lower body comes in. I think that JP has developed a little mid-range game out of necessity at the high school level. Anyone who watched Eureka play could see JP doesn't have a whole lot of help, and JP is facing double and triple teams even when he doesn't have the ball sometimes, so he has to leak out on the floor a little more to get some open looks. I'd love to see what he could do on the block when a team would be forced to play him straight up, or at least more honest than constant double and triple teams.

I mentioned his ability to step out and hit a 12-15 foot jumper because usually all freshman have strength issues when they first play division 1, especially post players. I think JP's all around basketball skills will allow him to contribute as a freshman until his physical skills catch up at this level.
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JP is a real deal:!: I think he will grow another inch or maybe more. He will get stronger over the summer and not doubt be a player for BU next year, as BB said. He may just be as good or better than a couple players that have been here for 2 years and thats not a knock on anyone but a personal view of how good I think this kid is. As for him being double and triple teamed that can only help his game. The more hands and body's on him will force him to make moves and find ways to better improve his game. As for his outside shooting, MS had and could hit long range and man the paint too. By JL and the coach's wanting him to develop a deeper shot will just give them the opportunity of playing him at the 4 or 5. Nothing wrong with that.;-):biggrin:
 
houstontxbrave said:
I know everyone is excited because he is local etc, but I am concerned because of the level of high school competition he faces nightly. Few smaller school players are prepared to step into D1 and contribute. Carlton Fay played often at SIU last year but at times looked overwelmed.
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I've never seen Jordan play, but hasn't he played on AAU teams against other top talent?
 
ser_solace said:
I've never seen Jordan play, but hasn't he played on AAU teams against other top talent?
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Yes, which is part of what made BU offer him as a freshman and why bigger schools offered him as well. He's played against as good or better competition than Carlton Fay had at this point, and had more BCS offers. Both came from small schools, and both have big-time talent.
 
A 6"8" player who can post up and shoot from outside....I see no problem with this. I think if the BU staff want JP to develop an outside game, it is with a plan.
 
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