Kansas assistant Tim Jankovich to be new ISU coach

[DannyCooksey]

PS-- In Bill Liesse's article, he reiterates that as of yesterday, Wayne McClain had not even been contacted about the ISU coaching position.
So did Zenger make any effort to interview anyone besides his hand picked guy?
Does that bother anyone?

Sure as hell doesn't bother me. I was hoping for a bigger name, but I'd much rather have Jankovich than McClain by far. His resume' is far stronger than McClain's.

Plus, the BU and ISU situations are totally different in regards to McClain. McClain is a BU alum (I know about the master's at ISU), a Peoria native and BU was his 'dream job' supposedly.

Here's a thought? If McClain was interested, why not contact Zenger himself? Nothing against the rules there.

 

[it's boogie time]

Tim Jankovich was 10-16 in his forth year at North Texas and resigned with three years left on his contract. The new coach inherited no players over 6'6".

 

[Braves4Life]

ISU Mentality

ISU Mentality

So it appears the fix was in.
Sheahon Zenger and Jankovich have ties at K-State that go back many years.
It is clear this is the guy AD Zenger wanted all along, and that the phony,
token posturing by calling the Black Coaches Assoc. was just a charade.
Were there any other candidate considered?
Was any minority candidate even considered or interviewed?
It appears not, and I wonder where is the outrage that we saw when Bradley made its hire in 2002?
Will we see newspaper columns blasting ISU for not hiring Wayne McClain?
http://pjstar.com/stories/032007/ISU_BCMR24N2.076.php

Unless things have changed since I was around (grew up in Peoria and "lived" Bradley basketball until moving in 1990)....................

ISU fans do not have near the passion as BU fans. Bloom/Normal is more of a transient community as far as students and basketball fans go and has never had the "small town" "basketball is everything" attitude that Peoria has.

The reality of this situation (IMO) is that the majority of people in B/N and the "fans" really don't care/aren't interested unless the team is winning. When ISU wins they care and show up (a jump on the bandwagon mentality). When they're just an average (or worse) team nobody seems to care.

In Peoria Bradley basketball rules (year 'round). When I think of Peoria I think of two things: Caterpillar, and Bradley basketball. When I think of Bloom/Normal I think of................State Farm? :lol:

(Don't take offense ISU fans. This is just my take; correct me if I'm wrong 8) )

 

[DannyCooksey]

Re: ISU Mentality

Re: ISU Mentality

So it appears the fix was in.
Sheahon Zenger and Jankovich have ties at K-State that go back many years.
It is clear this is the guy AD Zenger wanted all along, and that the phony,
token posturing by calling the Black Coaches Assoc. was just a charade.
Were there any other candidate considered?
Was any minority candidate even considered or interviewed?
It appears not, and I wonder where is the outrage that we saw when Bradley made its hire in 2002?
Will we see newspaper columns blasting ISU for not hiring Wayne McClain?
http://pjstar.com/stories/032007/ISU_BCMR24N2.076.php

Unless things have changed since I was around (grew up in Peoria and "lived" Bradley basketball until moving in 1990)....................

ISU fans do not have near the passion as BU fans. Bloom/Normal is more of a transient community as far as students and basketball fans go and has never had the "small town" "basketball is everything" attitude that Peoria has.

The reality of this situation (IMO) is that the majority of people in B/N and the "fans" really don't care/aren't interested unless the team is winning. When ISU wins they care and show up (a jump on the bandwagon mentality). When they're just an average (or worse) team nobody seems to care.

In Peoria Bradley basketball rules (year 'round). When I think of Peoria I think of two things: Caterpillar, and Bradley basketball. When I think of Bloom/Normal I think of................State Farm? :lol:

(Don't take offense ISU fans. This is just my take; correct me if I'm wrong 8) )

You make some interesting generalizations. I think everyone loves a winner and I'd question the passion of BU fans during the last couple Molinari years as well as the 1st couple Les years. I don't think they were breaking turnstiles in those days either. I could argue BU has 'bandwagon' fans also and I'd be wrong to say that.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that you guys set an attendance record the year after you went to a Sweet 16. People will follow a winner and that's not exclusive to ISU. The Redbird football team had 2 sellouts and an average of nearly 13,000 per home game. They also made the playoffs. That's not a coincidence.

The fans are there, they are just tired of the losing of the last 7-8 years. If that's bandwagon to you, then I guess it is. I can attest to the Redbird fans being starved for a winner and if Jankovich turns things around, you'll see Redbird basketball become in demand again.

 

[OrangeandBlack74]

Sounds like a good hire. Was an Asst at Vandy - so a tie to Stallings?

If he is the recruiter for Self, the MVC better look out.

Mac....I could recruit kids to KU.

DRU.....you could recruit kids to the local watering hole (i.e. Gorman's). :lol:

And what is the status of your recruitment of Bertrand to BU??? :wink:

 

[OrangeandBlack74]

Re: ISU Mentality

Re: ISU Mentality

The fans are there, they are just tired of the losing of the last 7-8 years. If that's bandwagon to you, then I guess it is. I can attest to the Redbird fans being starved for a winner and if Jankovich turns things around, you'll see Redbird basketball become in demand again.

I hope you're right, Danny. Many BU faithful would love to see the ISU-BU rivalry become the "war" that it once was.....

 

[dogsrus]

Sounds like a good hire. Was an Asst at Vandy - so a tie to Stallings?

If he is the recruiter for Self, the MVC better look out.

Mac....I could recruit kids to KU.

DRU.....you could recruit kids to the local watering hole (i.e. Gorman's). :lol:

And what is the status of your recruitment of Bertrand to BU??? :wink:

Yes...I usually have NO problem getting guys like you, Braves12 to follow :lol:

The Betrand thing is dead....being gone 20+ years I've lost my contacts :lol:

 

[dogsrus]

Danny I will like to hear you're thoughts on this.

ISU fans really feel like they will be very good next year....what if they finish .500.

To me the guy is coming in with no room for error.

Bare minimum is getting out of the playin game....if that doesn't happen, and I don't think it will be as easy as some think...look out.

I know you directed this at Cooksey, but I'll chime in too.

Assuming (hoping and praying) we keep everyone, then we will have the pieces in place for a good year. We will have a good amount of talent and experience, and can hopefully add another couple good players with our remaining 2 schollies. I agree, getting out of the play-in round is a must. We almost got out of it this year but oh well.

If we retain everyone on the roster and finish .500, I would be rather dissapointed. There is a chance for us to have a strong year next year, but like Cooksey aluded to, we must concentrate on keeping our roster intact. If we do, then thats a good first step. Time will tell on this hire, but again the potential exists for immediate success IMHO.

No problem and thanks for chiming in.....I think expectations are high from ISU fans. Thats got to be tough for a first year coach. I get the feeling, as you kind of indicated, that there is a MINIMUM standard of no play-in game.

Assuming UE,DU,InSU stay at the bottom ISU will have to leap past BU,CU,SIU,WSU,MS or UNI. Lots of assumptions but really no easy task.

 

[DannyCooksey]

Danny I will like to hear you're thoughts on this.

ISU fans really feel like they will be very good next year....what if they finish .500.

To me the guy is coming in with no room for error.

Bare minimum is getting out of the playin game....if that doesn't happen, and I don't think it will be as easy as some think...look out.

I know you directed this at Cooksey, but I'll chime in too.

Assuming (hoping and praying) we keep everyone, then we will have the pieces in place for a good year. We will have a good amount of talent and experience, and can hopefully add another couple good players with our remaining 2 schollies. I agree, getting out of the play-in round is a must. We almost got out of it this year but oh well.

If we retain everyone on the roster and finish .500, I would be rather dissapointed. There is a chance for us to have a strong year next year, but like Cooksey aluded to, we must concentrate on keeping our roster intact. If we do, then thats a good first step. Time will tell on this hire, but again the potential exists for immediate success IMHO.

No problem and thanks for chiming in.....I think expectations are high from ISU fans. Thats got to be tough for a first year coach. I get the feeling, as you kind of indicated, that there is a MINIMUM standard of no playing game.

Assuming UE,DU,InSU stay at the bottom ISU will have to leap past BU,CU,SIU,WSU,MS or UNI. Lots of assumptions but really no easy task.

No doubt. he has his work cut out for him. Assuming the current roster remains in tact, he will have some pieces to compete for next year. After that, he loses a bunch. I think we'll know very soon whether this was the right move or not.

 

[Phantom]

Danny I will like to hear you're thoughts on this.

ISU fans really feel like they will be very good next year....what if they finish .500.

To me the guy is coming in with no room for error.

Bare minimum is getting out of the playin game....if that doesn't happen, and I don't think it will be as easy as some think...look out.

I know you directed this at Cooksey, but I'll chime in too.

Assuming (hoping and praying) we keep everyone, then we will have the pieces in place for a good year. We will have a good amount of talent and experience, and can hopefully add another couple good players with our remaining 2 schollies. I agree, getting out of the play-in round is a must. We almost got out of it this year but oh well.

If we retain everyone on the roster and finish .500, I would be rather dissapointed. There is a chance for us to have a strong year next year, but like Cooksey aluded to, we must concentrate on keeping our roster intact. If we do, then thats a good first step. Time will tell on this hire, but again the potential exists for immediate success IMHO.

No problem and thanks for chiming in.....I think expectations are high from ISU fans. Thats got to be tough for a first year coach. I get the feeling, as you kind of indicated, that there is a MINIMUM standard of no playing game.

Assuming UE,DU,InSU stay at the bottom ISU will have to leap past BU,CU,SIU,WSU,MS or UNI. Lots of assumptions but really no easy task.

True. No team or game in the Valley is "easy". That said we were close to being in the thick of things this past season. We found new ways to piss away games we should've won. Had we not done that, we wouldve been right there. Hopefully this new coaching staff is the fresh start that we need to get over the hump. Like I said, if everyone stays, and we get another couple good players with our remaining schollies, then we will have the team in place to be good. If the new staff can then develop a good system around these players' abilities (like you guys did), then we'll be right there.

 

[Dubl R 1]

Sounds like a good hire. Was an Asst at Vandy - so a tie to Stallings?

If he is the recruiter for Self, the MVC better look out.

Mac....I could recruit kids to KU.

Apparently so can Bruce Weber! :lol:

 

[dogsrus]

Danny I will like to hear you're thoughts on this.

ISU fans really feel like they will be very good next year....what if they finish .500.

To me the guy is coming in with no room for error.

Bare minimum is getting out of the playin game....if that doesn't happen, and I don't think it will be as easy as some think...look out.

I know you directed this at Cooksey, but I'll chime in too.

Assuming (hoping and praying) we keep everyone, then we will have the pieces in place for a good year. We will have a good amount of talent and experience, and can hopefully add another couple good players with our remaining 2 schollies. I agree, getting out of the play-in round is a must. We almost got out of it this year but oh well.

If we retain everyone on the roster and finish .500, I would be rather dissapointed. There is a chance for us to have a strong year next year, but like Cooksey aluded to, we must concentrate on keeping our roster intact. If we do, then thats a good first step. Time will tell on this hire, but again the potential exists for immediate success IMHO.

No problem and thanks for chiming in.....I think expectations are high from ISU fans. Thats got to be tough for a first year coach. I get the feeling, as you kind of indicated, that there is a MINIMUM standard of no playing game.

Assuming UE,DU,InSU stay at the bottom ISU will have to leap past BU,CU,SIU,WSU,MS or UNI. Lots of assumptions but really no easy task.

True. No team or game in the Valley is "easy". That said we were close to being in the thick of things this past season. We found new ways to piss away games we should've won. Had we not done that, we wouldve been right there. Hopefully this new coaching staff is the fresh start that we need to get over the hump. Like I said, if everyone stays, and we get another couple good players with our remaining schollies, then we will have the team in place to be good. If the new staff can then develop a good system around these players' abilities (like you guys did), then we'll be right there.

I agree but what I'm asking is what will the fans do or what do they want? A new coach needs time to develop...IF ISU is a Thursday nite team again I see the natives going crazy.

I get the feeling many think its a given that Thursday is out. Now its what MORE can you do for us coach. IOW..talent returning alone is enough to move us (ISU) up....

 

[Phantom]

I agree but what I'm asking is what will the fans do or what do they want? A new coach needs time to develop...IF ISU is a Thursday nite team again I see the natives going crazy.

I get the feeling many think its a given that Thursday is out. Now its what MORE can you do for us coach. IOW..talent returning alone is enough to move us (ISU0 up....

The natives have been going crazy for some time now as it is :lol: Right now the majority of our fans seem excited about this guy. While they may be adopting a "wait and see" stance, I think there is some excitement based solely on the fact that we have a new coach. If the team stays intact, I would expect a slight (if not significant) attendance increase at least at the outset of the season for no other reason than the staff is new. There are a lot of our fans who refused to come to games simply because Moser's staff was still there. Sad and embarrassing, but true. There are other factors as well---who we get on the non-con sched (so far its not bad with home games vs. Cincinnati, UIC, and the BB), and of course the cure-all: WINNING.

If the team stays, then avoiding Thursday should be entirely possible. We lose some very key guys after next year, so his first recruiting class will be vital to see where we are going. The chance is there for him to hit the ground running with a good year off the bat and if that happens, then I think our fans will be back and will be patient with his recruits during the '09 year. Time will tell on all of the above of course...

 

[Fetz86]

PS-- In Bill Liesse's article, he reiterates that as of yesterday, Wayne McClain had not even been contacted about the ISU coaching position.
So did Zenger make any effort to interview anyone besides his hand picked guy?
Does that bother anyone?

Does not bother me at all

 

[Braveman]

According to WJBC radio, Jankovich signed a 5 year deal and Bill Self himself called Zenger to pitch him as a candidate....

 

[MikeCash]

Jankovich is scheduled to talk to Boers and Bernstein this hour (3.20.07, 3:00+). Free streaming at 670thescore.com.

 

[DannyCooksey]

Jankovich is scheduled to talk to Boers and Bernstein this hour (3.20.07, 3:00+). Free streaming at 670thescore.com.

Damn

I missed it!! Did anyone catch it? I heard a couple minutes of him on WJBC at lunch today, but I would have liked to hear those guys interview him when they know little to nothing about the Valley

 

[Braveman]

I heard the whole thing.. He sounded excited to be in teh Valley- said it is a good league and that he thinks it is almost as good as back in the Big O and Wes Unseld days.. which goes back to Louisville and Cincinnati...

Said he met briefly with team and felt positive...

B&B asked if Bill Self would mind if he brought Collins and Wright back to Illinois State with him....

 

[DannyCooksey]

I heard the whole thing.. He sounded excited to be in teh Valley- said it is a good league and that he thinks it is almost as good as back in the Big O and Wes Unseld days.. which goes back to Louisville and Cincinnati...

Said he met briefly with team and felt positive...

B&B asked if Bill Self would mind if he brought Collins and Wright back to Illinois State with him....

thanks Braveman. He might as well add Rush whiles he's at it.

BTW-Who is the hammer in the picture? She's solid.

 

[Braveman]

I heard the whole thing.. He sounded excited to be in teh Valley- said it is a good league and that he thinks it is almost as good as back in the Big O and Wes Unseld days.. which goes back to Louisville and Cincinnati...

Said he met briefly with team and felt positive...

B&B asked if Bill Self would mind if he brought Collins and Wright back to Illinois State with him....

thanks Braveman. He might as well add Rush whiles he's at it.

BTW-Who is the hammer in the picture? She's solid.

She is Julianne Viani, one of the star players for Marist... Who made it to the women's Sweet 16....