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Knicks-Nuggets brawl

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The embarrassment that is the Knicks took a step further tonight. They were getting blown out on their home court by the Nuggets when a Nuggets player was fouled hard by a Knicks player and a huge brawl broke out. League-leading scorer Carmelo Anthony, who was still in the game despite the blowout situation, threw a punch as did others. Knicks coach Isiah Thomas was upset that the Nuggets still had a couple of their starters in the game late with a 20 point lead. The Nuggets felt a cheap foul in a blowout game like this was unwarranted. All 10 players on the court were ejected and there will certainly be fines and suspensions.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/12/16/nuggets.knicks.brawl.ap/?cnn=yes

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-spknix1217,0,1420250.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/article.jsp?content=20061216_224437_6444
 
The game has lost so much respect at the pro level.

I can't wait to hear how society has diss'd these players and they are actually victims.
 
Mello needs to sit and get fined more than any other player for his gang style punch and run to hide behind team mates play! :oops: :oops: :oops: What a coward.........too bad non of the knicks could get a hold of him and give him what he has coming.........let's see if the league can stand up to one of it's marque players and give the "gang banger" the suspension and fine he really desreves? :-o :roll:
 
Anthony

Anthony

Wow. I'm really disappointed in Carmelo Anthony for doing that. The holy trinity (Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony) were supposed to usher in a new age for NBA basketball, where the face of the NBA isn't some punk.

This puts all of that in the toilet for now. (Well, Lebron also had a bit where he just walked off the court with a few seconds left in the game.)

The NBA, to me, has been hardest working sports organization to try and lift its image. Every NBA game, they have segments from the NBA Cares Program. In fact, I think Carmelo Anthony just gave like over $1 million to some youth center. I also think Dwayne Wade tithes 10% of his income to his old church back in Chicago.

It's too bad things like this will overshadow some of the good things. And I think there are good things, including Carmelo. This was a bad choice he made, no doubt about it. He needs to accept the consequences, and I hope they are fierce. This is unacceptable in any sport on any level.
 
Sad but the NBA has never been the same since Shaq and Iverson brought the same
bad elements that go with rap music, gangsta-ism and cheap hits.
Attendance for almost every team peaked in 1997-98 and has been going down since.
The loss of Bird, Magic, MJ, Barkley, Olajuwon, and Ewing obviously has hurt the League way more then they're letting on.
I am sure David Stern knows he has to make some sort of move to clean up the NBA
but how does he go about it in this age of political correctness.
He tried by instituting a dress code and heavily punishing the thugs,
but this gangsta berhavior is so ingrained into the players that only complete expulsion from the NBA would work.
They cannot be rehabilitated.
 
Agree 100%
I just read a piece in which the Knicks players are justifying the fighting, brawling, and criminal behavior as "protecting their family".
Then all the Knicks blame the Nuggets since they had their starters in at the end of a blowout.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/480943p-404745c.html

Here's an interesting story about thugs in college basketball.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/tigers/article/0,2844,MCA_25363_5219563,00.html
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/tigers/article/0,2844,MCA_25363_5199056,00.html


Makes you really appreciate the quality of athletes Bradley has recruited.
 
I love this! I hate the NBA for what it has become. The more this happens the more attention that is brought to the problem. The NBA is a business, bottom line. So, as this stuff happens and attendances and interest drops the owners are going to be forced to do something. Soon enough the NBA is going to have to take drastic measures...and that is just economics. The "thugs" are only hurting themselves.
 
The legacy of David Stern might just show that his biggest blunder was the failed attempt to introduce the new ball this year.

But in reality, the greatest blunder is his failure to stem the growing thuggery and gangsterism.

We can no longer win internationally, because the Euros actually study, learn, and play real team ball while the American version is all selfish, one-on-one, and nobody can shoot.

Maybe as long as the NBA can grab more money out of Europe and China they don't care, but soon America will reject this farce that the NBA has become.
Even GM's and coaches want more of the European and Argentinian players because they know the game better and are dreams to coach compared to the thugs.

By the way, Carmelo is a sad, sad example of an NBA representative. He's been repeatedly linked to drugs, thuggery, and crimes. It's been mentioned here before.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3519

If he is the best the league can do as a "diplomat" of the NBA, then bring back Hersey Hawkins!!
 
tornado said:
Agree 100%
I just read a piece in which the Knicks players are justifying the fighting, brawling, and criminal behavior as "protecting their family".
Then all the Knicks blame the Nuggets since they had their starters in at the end of a blowout.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/480943p-404745c.html

Here's an interesting story about thugs in college basketball.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/tigers/article/0,2844,MCA_25363_5219563,00.html
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/tigers/article/0,2844,MCA_25363_5199056,00.html


Makes you really appreciate the quality of athletes Bradley has recruited.
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After watching ESPN this morning, this all is Isiah Thomas's fault. He told Mello before this altercation to stay out of the lane. It seems Isiah was upset that Camby and Anthony were still in the game when they were up 20. I saw Isiah's post game press conference and he is a wormy man anymore. I can't wait to hear if George Karl has a response to him basically ripping him for leaving those two in the game. Given Mello was wrong for reacting like he did with his cowardly hit and run, but Isiah stirred the pot and then puts the blame all on George karl. This is just a sad situation.
 
This guy really lets Isiah Thomas have it.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=dw-knicks121606&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

"It's all gone in New York now ???‚¬??? the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy."

I watched ESPN tonight and they showed video of Isiah Thomas just before the brawl telling Carmello Anthony not to take the basketball to the basket implying he would get hurt. The NBA will surely see this and has to conclude Isiah played a part in orchestrating the thug act. He'll get suspended with the players.
 
Just for fun, while at work, I searched more articles on the brawl. These seem to acknowledge that Thomas probably ordered the hard foul because he was mad at George Karl for leaving 2 of his starters in the game with a 20 point lead. But a lot of the NY media hold Thomas responsible.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/sports/basketball/18knicks.html
http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spken1218,0,7820707.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/sports/basketball/18sandomir.html?ref=basketball
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=bba71e10-8a94-4294-bebf-b918aca917bb
 
night shift said:
Just for fun, while at work, I searched more articles on the brawl. These seem to acknowledge that Thomas probably ordered the hard foul because he was mad at George Karl for leaving 2 of his starters in the game with a 20 point lead. But a lot of the NY media hold Thomas responsible.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/sports/basketball/18knicks.html
http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spken1218,0,7820707.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/sports/basketball/18sandomir.html?ref=basketball
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=bba71e10-8a94-4294-bebf-b918aca917bb
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Did I not already say this????
 
Carmelo Anthony gets 15 games suspension and all the rest of the players get even substantially less.
These penalties will, in all likelihood, be reduced upon appeal further.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2701228

And the thing I thought should have been penalized the hardest was referred to only as
"Stern also made it clear he was annoyed by comments from Thomas and the Knicks that the problems were caused by the Nuggets still having four starters on the floor late in a blowout."

These guys on the Knicks actually tried to justify their horrid actions by saying it was deserved because the Nuggets had their starters out there.
That kind of alibi making, goon-enforcement, and justification needs to be called out and penalized hard.
Denver might have been a bit unreasonable with starters still in but it isn't a violation and other teams do it at all levels of play.
Get over it, Isiah, grow up!
 
I just want the NBA to fix the travelling issue. You're supposed to dribble in this game. I think the "thug" issue will work itself out over time, but the playing of the game is what is broken for me.
 
This whole its justified because the other team kept his starters in the game is insane.

There is a sport radio guy here in Houston who thinks Karl should be suspended/fined for leaving his starters in, hence this is the reason the fight happened. HUH? Is there a rule that says a coach must take players out of a game because the score is has gotten to high and we dont want to upset, embarrass, make the paid players feel inferior?

This whole line of justification sounds like the high schools that have running clocks or you get suspended if your team wins by to many points.

Heres and idea for the Knicks, stop getting blown out of basketball games.
 
I hear everyone saying how the punishments were appropriate. 15 games for Mello, 10 for a couple others, and 6 for a bunch of the rest. Am I the only one who thinks the punishments should have been more???
 
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