MVC players transferring

[Da Coach]

Posting this in a new thread so it doesn't get lost in the Transfer portal thread, with all the frequent changes...

The top 4 MVC scorers, and 5 of the top 6 from last season will not be returning to the MVC next season.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...yer/_/group/18
#1 Isiaih Mosley- Missouri State- transferring
#2 Antonio Reeves- Illinois State- transferring
#3 A.J. Green- Northern Iowa-- transferring
#4 Gaige Prim- Missouri State- graduated
#5 Marcus Domask- Southern Illinois
#6 Noah Carter- Northern Iowa- transferring

And here were the 1st and 2nd team All-MVC this past season-
The entire 1st team is gone, and only Tucker DeVries and Marcus Domask will return out of the top 10 players from last season, thanks to the portal (Prim, Williamson, & Sturtz graduated).

 

[Da Coach]

Duke staff has spoken with and are interested in former UNI guard A.J. Green, and trying to arrange a visit
https://twitter.com/BlueDevils/statu...87280084541440


Here are all the MVC players transferring so far-
Belmont-
Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg- transferring to Florida
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg
Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferring to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior- transferring to Georgia
Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman
Devin Dahlke- sophomore
Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman- transferring to South Carolina as walk-on
Jawaun Newton- senior
Emmette Page- redshirt junior
Blake Sisley- freshman- transferring to Wright State
Iyen Enaruna- senior- transferring to Fort Hays State (D2)
Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior- transferring to Kentucky
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior
Josiah Strong- senior
Jayden Johnson- sophomore walk-on
Howard Fleming, Jr.- sophomore
Emon Washington- redshirt-sophomore
Sy. Chatman- junior
Julian Samuels- freshman walk-on
Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior- transferring to Tennessee
Nick Hittle- sophomore- transferring to Southern Indiana
Quimari Peterson- freshman
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore
Sam Mervis- sophomore
Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior- transferring to Oakland
Demarcus Sharp- senior- transferring to Northwestern State
Ja'Monta Black- junior- transferring to Northwestern State
Melvyn Ebonkoli- sophomore
Skylar Wicks- redshirt freshman
Elijah Bridgers- sophomore
Lu'Cye Patterson- sophomore
Isaac Haney- freshman- transferring to Northwestern State
Isiaih Mosley- junior
Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman- transferring to Wofford
Damiree "DJ" Burns-sophomore- withdrew and will return to Murray State
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferring to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferring to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore- transferring to Radford
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferring to LSU
Nicholas McMullen- sophomore- transferred to UNC-Asheville
Dionte Bostick- freshman
UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore- transferring to Missouri
A.J. Green- junior
Antwan Kimmons- sophomore- transferring to Concordia St. Paul
SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior
Kyler Filewich- sophomore- transferring to Wofford
Steven Verplancken- junior
UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior- transferring to Tennessee State
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior
Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman- transferred to Triton College
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore- transferring to Loyola
Trey Woodyard- freshman

 

[Dubl R 1]

They should just all transfer to the same valley school and take their chances.

Now that I think about it… how long before somebody with super deep pockets from a non power 5 tries to buy a championship?

Could be done now that it wouldn’t be overly suspicious

 

[MacabreMob]

They should just all transfer to the same valley school and take their chances.

Now that I think about it… how long before somebody with super deep pockets from a non power 5 tries to buy a championship?

Could be done now that it wouldn’t be overly suspicious

I think the power and control is shifting to the players. It won't be long before THE PLAYERS are scheming together to create champions. THE PLAYERS will find a school to "take over" and take them to the championship. Plenty of teams out there that have rich histories, plenty of NCAA appearances and victories... but no titles... Just to name a few: Houston, Wake Forest, Missouri, Iowa, St Johns, Memphis, Texas, Notre Dame, Purdue, Oklahoma... and Illinois.

 

[bradleyfan124]

I think the power and control is shifting to the players. It won't be long before THE PLAYERS are scheming together to create champions. THE PLAYERS will find a school to "take over" and take them to the championship. Plenty of teams out there that have rich histories, plenty of NCAA appearances and victories... but no titles... Just to name a few: Houston, Wake Forest, Missouri, Iowa, St Johns, Memphis, Texas, Notre Dame, Purdue, Oklahoma... and Illinois.

Who runs he prisons? The Wardens or the inmates? Lol

 

[molar50]

It is always been a challenge to be a college coach. The coach's future is dependent upon the decision making (often off the court) of young men aged 18-23, who are maturing. Now, with the changes happening, its getting more demanding. A lot of this is due the lack of enforcement by the NCAA against the top programs that continue to cheat. The coaches are significantly paid more than the presidents of the universities, the television revenue is astronomical, and now it is legal for sports betting. There is so much more money now and the players and their parents want "their money". I am not sure how this goes for the future of college sports.

 

[molar50]

I think the power and control is shifting to the players. It won't be long before THE PLAYERS are scheming together to create champions. THE PLAYERS will find a school to "take over" and take them to the championship. Plenty of teams out there that have rich histories, plenty of NCAA appearances and victories... but no titles... Just to name a few: Houston, Wake Forest, Missouri, Iowa, St Johns, Memphis, Texas, Notre Dame, Purdue, Oklahoma... and Illinois.

Maybe, the schools can have a draft day, just like the NBA or NFL and can "fix" the amount that the number 1 high school player is paid, number 2, etc. And then each player can have an attorney (sport's agent) represent the player. They can put the draft on television and make more money.

 

[bradleyfan124]

Maybe, the schools can have a draft day, just like the NBA or NFL and can "fix" the amount that the number 1 high school player is paid, number 2, etc. And then each player can have an attorney (sport's agent) represent the player. They can put the draft on television and make more money.

They should put a limit on the money they make anyway. How much does a college kid need? Can he get by with $50,000 instead of $400,000? I think it all goes back to the NCAA has refused to enforce their own rules. However you are starting to see college coaches rebelling against the rampant and blatant cheating that goes on. (Bruce Weber)

 

[egib52]

They should put a limit on the money they make anyway. How much does a college kid need? Can he get by with $50,000 instead of $400,000? I think it all goes back to the NCAA has refused to enforce their own rules. However you are starting to see college coaches rebelling against the rampant and blatant cheating that goes on. (Bruce Weber)

What authority would they have to cap it?

 

[molar50]

They should put a limit on the money they make anyway. How much does a college kid need? Can he get by with $50,000 instead of $400,000? I think it all goes back to the NCAA has refused to enforce their own rules. However you are starting to see college coaches rebelling against the rampant and blatant cheating that goes on. (Bruce Weber)

You make sense, but the genie is already out of the bottle. By enforcing a $50,000 restriction, you are restricting the "right" of that "student-athlete's" ability in the free market. The NBA and NFL are exempt from anti-trust ligation because of legislation and each have player's associations that are supposed to represent what's in the player's best interests. The owners win every time. It is always about the money.

 

[Tommy]

Give the free market time to adjust. These big schools will be shelling out all kinds of money, but once these kids start flopping and they're on the hook to pay them anyway, it should work itself out.

Mid-majors have always worked at a disadvantage under the power conferences and the money has always passed hands, it's just out in the open now.

 

[bradleyfan124]

Give the free market time to adjust. These big schools will be shelling out all kinds of money, but once these kids start flopping and they're on the hook to pay them anyway, it should work itself out.

Mid-majors have always worked at a disadvantage under the power conferences and the money has always passed hands, it's just out in the open now.

Total Agreeance on this

 

[egib52]

Give the free market time to adjust. These big schools will be shelling out all kinds of money, but once these kids start flopping and they're on the hook to pay them anyway, it should work itself out.

Mid-majors have always worked at a disadvantage under the power conferences and the money has always passed hands, it's just out in the open now.

You act as if there is a limit on the money they have available. I don't think this will happen at all. That's like saying when the Yankees over pay someone they will stop signing big money deals.

 

[Big Mike]

Mid Major is now the new Juco.....play a year after they recruit and bring you into D1 and get cherry picked by the big boys. I hate it and it also has destroyed high school kids recruiting. Unless a high schooler is top 100 why take him when proven D1 kids can transfer at will.
Basically turned into professional free agency for who can offer the most $$$$$.....so sad.

 

[bradleyfan124]

What authority would they have to cap it?

I dont know but there should be some kind of cap on what they make. The Supreme Court said the NCAA has to allow them to make money off there likeness but the NCAA should be able to put a cap on what they make per endeavor. What is the value of each endeavor? Example if an athlete signs autographs in front of a store, Is $50 for 30minutes reasonable or is $500,000 reasonable. There needs to be some kind of regulation of this

 

[Tommy]

Free market works if you give it time. Let the big boys run up the price for the best recruits with each other. Half of them will not turn out as good as they were expecting anyway.

Mid-majors have always been at a disadvantage and that hasn't changed. My biggest concern is that I'll be rooting for an entirely new team every year, but this being the first year, I suspect it'll be the worst, and so far at least, we've only lost 2 players to the transfer portal. Now that mid-majors know this is how the rules work, they'll adjust their recruiting and hopefully find kids that are interested in sticking around. In a world of 8 billion people, there should be enough talent to go around and if the Tampa Bay Rays taught us anything it's that smart decisions can help you be successful without spending big time money. Let's just hope we've got some savvy guys making those decisions at BU.

 

[bradleyfan124]

Free market works if you give it time. Let the big boys run up the price for the best recruits with each other. Half of them will not turn out as good as they were expecting anyway.

Mid-majors have always been at a disadvantage and that hasn't changed. My biggest concern is that I'll be rooting for an entirely new team every year, but this being the first year, I suspect it'll be the worst, and so far at least, we've only lost 2 players to the transfer portal. Now that mid-majors know this is how the rules work, they'll adjust their recruiting and hopefully find kids that are interested in sticking around. In a world of 8 billion people, there should be enough talent to go around and if the Tampa Bay Rays taught us anything it's that smart decisions can help you be successful without spending big time money. Let's just hope we've got some savvy guys making those decisions at BU.

Amen!!

 

[Da Coach]

A couple updates-
Isaac Haney, Missouri State freshman who entered the portal, signs with Northwestern State in Louisiana. he becomes the 4th Missouri State player to transfer there. Former MSU associate head coach Corey Gipson is now the head coach there.
Iyen Enaruna, Evansville transfer, signs with D2 Fort Hays State.
Sekou Dembele, SIU transfer, commits to Fort Lewis College, a D2 school in Durango, Colorado
Illinois State freshman Elijah Williams and freshman walk-on guard Julian Samuels have entered the transfer portal.


Here are all the MVC players transferring so far-
Belmont-
Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg- transferring to Florida
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg
Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferring to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior- transferring to Georgia
Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman- transferring to Eckerd
Devin Dahlke- sophomore
Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman- transferring to South Carolina as walk-on
Jawaun Newton- senior- transferring to Southern Illinois
Emmette Page- redshirt junior
Blake Sisley- freshman- transferring to Wright State
Iyen Enaruna- senior- transferring to Fort Hays State (D2)
Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior- transferring to Kentucky
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior
Josiah Strong- senior
Jayden Johnson- sophomore walk-on
Howard Fleming, Jr.- sophomore- transferring to Winthrop
Mark Freeman- junior- transferring to Morehead State
Emon Washington- redshirt-sophomore
Sy Chatman- junior- transferring to Buffalo
Julian Samuels- freshman walk-on
Elijah Williams- freshman
Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior- transferring to Tennessee
Nick Hittle- sophomore- transferring to Southern Indiana
Quimari Peterson- freshman- transferring to John A. Logan Community College
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore- transferring to Nicholls State
Sam Mervis- sophomore
Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior- transferring to Oakland
Demarcus Sharp- senior- transferring to Northwestern State
Ja'Monta Black- junior- transferring to Northwestern State
Melvyn Ebonkoli- sophomore
Skylar Wicks- redshirt freshman
Elijah Bridgers- sophomore
Lu'Cye Patterson- sophomore
Isaac Haney- freshman- transferring to Northwestern State
Isiaih Mosley- junior-transferring to Missouri
Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman- transferring to Wofford
Damiree "DJ" Burns-sophomore- withdrew and will return to Murray State
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferring to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferring to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore- transferring to Radford
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferring to LSU
Nicholas McMullen- sophomore- transferred to UNC-Asheville
Dionte Bostick- freshman- transferring to Cal State Northridge
UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore- transferring to Missouri
A.J. Green- junior- remaining in NBA draft, and will forego his college eligibility
Antwan Kimmons- sophomore- transferring to Concordia St. Paul
SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior- transferring to Fort Lewis College (D2)
Kyler Filewich- sophomore- transferring to Wofford
Steven Verplancken- junior
UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior- transferring to Tennessee State
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior
Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman- transferred to Triton College
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore- transferring to Loyola
Trey Woodyard- freshman

 

[egib52]

I dont know but there should be some kind of cap on what they make. The Supreme Court said the NCAA has to allow them to make money off there likeness but the NCAA should be able to put a cap on what they make per endeavor. What is the value of each endeavor? Example if an athlete signs autographs in front of a store, Is $50 for 30minutes reasonable or is $500,000 reasonable. There needs to be some kind of regulation of this

Exactly the Supreme Court says they have to allow them to make money. So where would the authority to put a cap on it come from? That would be like saying that the government should be allowed to regulate business' income.

 

[bradleyfan124]

Exactly the Supreme Court says they have to allow them to make money. So where would the authority to put a cap on it come from? That would be like saying that the government should be allowed to regulate business' income.

I wish I could give you an answer. I dont know how the fallout will be but right now it does not look pretty. I know one limitation that the athletes will have is the IRS. They will be expected to pay a certain percent of their earnings in taxes. Unless they take it out upfront they are going to be liable for taxes. I have heard some the athletes are already starting to hear from the IRS. Also I agree with what Tommy said earlier. They were doing this before just under the table. Now with this out in the open this may work to their disadvantage because of the IRS and pitting one Power 5 school against another. Thier may be some backlash from that