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NCAA debating delaying the start of the 2020-21 season

Loyola just shut down after a week and went back to online classes only. Saw this coming back in March. Many of you stated that this would all go away, that fall games would be on and the stands full. And its unfortunate that it hasn't. But the only hope we have for a season at this point is some sort of bubble. Which is ridiculously hard for even professional level associations to pull off. I don't see schools having the economic resources to pull off an NCAA bubble.
 
It would be difficult for a bubble to work for regular season games, but it may become necessary. I am not sure how it would be done to lock players from multiple D1 teams into a bubble environment. The NCAA is considering a bubble for their postseason NCAA Tournament, and it could easy for the MVC to do something like that for the 4-day Arch Madness when all the teams are there anyway.

And indeed, the financial impact of cancelling or banning fans will irreversibly damage a lot of schools' athletics programs.
Has there been any examples of any college athletes who have contracted Covid-19 from participating in college athletics and died from the disease?

There is some good news. New cases are declining overall in the US, as well as in most states.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...20-11597393551
 
Da Coach said:
And indeed, the financial impact will irreversibly damage a lot of schools' athletics programs.
Has there been any examples of any college athletes who have contracted Covid-19 from participating in college athletics and died from the disease?
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Don't keep me alive by keeping me from living - Lou Holtz regarding COVID-19.
 
I just spent the last 30 minutes searching for any example of a college athlete who died after contracting Covid-19 because of athletic competition. Maybe I am missing examples, but I can't find one.
The only example I found that was anywhere close was this one- it was widely publicized. This is from People Magazine-
21-Year-Old College Baseball Player Dies of Coronavirus: 'It's Every Parent's Worst Nightmare'
https://people.com/human-interest/21...s-coronavirus/

But..... the title is a bit misleading. In that case, the 21-year old college baseball player who died from Covid-19 actually would not have died if his college's baseball program had not been shut down. His college, Colorado Mesa University, shut down their baseball program in mid-March. As a result, he was sent home for spring break, where he was exposed to his father who was sick with Covid-19, and got infected himself. Sadly, he died. But if the college had not shut down their baseball season, the games would have continued through March, April, and into May. Thus, he would have remained on campus and he would be alive today.
Here is their schedule-
https://cmumavericks.com/sports/baseball/schedule

My point is that there is no real evidence that shutting down college sports or closing campuses results in a safer experience for the students or athletes. It's possible that if we shut down college athletics, a lot more kids whose lives revolve around the sports they love, will end up spending their time doing other things like socializing with friends, partying, and other activities that might be even increase their risks.
 
If one death is too many, we should never have high school or college sports again. The flu has been killing young people since the beginning of time.
 
I had read an article by a college athlete(s). If college was only online and the athletes went home, they would not be in a structured environment and probably going out with friends and partying. Kids will are kids.
 
LongTimeFan said:
I had read an article by a college athlete(s). If college was only online and the athletes went home, they would not be in a structured environment and probably going out with friends and partying. Kids will are kids.
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You are right. I think there would be just as much or more spread of the virus in that case. However, unfortunately, the colleges have to be concerned about their own liability.
 
How is enrollment this year? I didn’t graduate too long ago. But I absolutely would’ve taken time off and done my gen ed at a community college during all of this. Can’t imagine paying to be locked in U-Halls basement.
 
algotrader said:
How is enrollment this year? I didn’t graduate too long ago. But I absolutely would’ve taken time off and done my gen ed at a community college during all of this. Can’t imagine paying to be locked in U-Halls basement.
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I have heard the enrollment is down, but I have not seen or heard the exact figure.
 
Da Coach said:
NCAA close to announcing a delay in the start of the 2020-21 season. It would wipe out the first 6 games at minimum.
https://www.pjstar.com/sports/202009..._medium=social
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Here are some interesting stats. This website has accumulated numbers of positive Covid-19 tests from 29 universities.
A total of 25,941 positive tests were recorded on these campuses, and not a single one lead to a hospitalization.
https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/sta...01597221957640

This is not meant to suggest there isn't any risk of serious complications or death associated with Covid-19 on college campuses, only that the risk is extremely low for college age people. And there is not any evidence that athletic competition is associated with an increased risk.
 
Da Coach said:
NCAA close to announcing a delay in the start of the 2020-21 season. It would wipe out the first 6 games at minimum.
https://www.pjstar.com/sports/20200909/what-bradley-quarantine-means-for-its-basketball-team
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Another new development from the NCAA...
The NCAA oversight committee has met yesterday (Friday, Sept. 11) and has decided on a start date of November 21 for the 2020-21 college basketball season. The proposal will now go to a vote of the Division I Council, which is the governing body that will meet Sept. 16.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...propose-nov-21-start-date-for-2020-21-season/

The two-hour meeting focused in large part around upping the start date to accommodate multi-team events (MTEs), which had been a driving force the past week-plus for reconsidering Nov. 25, a date oversight committees agreed to during their Sept. 1 meeting.

So could this mean the Paradise Jam might still be played? It was scheduled from Nov. 20-23, but could be moved to Nov. 21-23 and still accommodate each team playing 3 games in 3 days.

Here was the preliminary schedule. The games prior to Nov. 20 would have to be rescheduled-
Date unknown, but probably early November- Home game vs. St. Joseph's (return game from last season)
Saturday, November 14, 2020- Road game at Toledo (return game from last season)
Paradise Jam games will take place in St. Thomas, USVI from Friday-Monday, Nov. 20-23-
Sunday, November 29, 2020- Road game at Missouri (this is a one-time "buy game")
Wednesday, December 2, 2020- Road game at Tulsa (return game in Peoria in 2021-22 season)
Thursday, Dec. 17, 2020- Home game against Jackson State
Saturday, December 19, 2020- Home vs. Miami Ohio (return game from last season)
And a home game vs. South Dakota State- date unknown
 
I wonder how they came up with that date? Seems like a lot of the things being done due to COVID-19 are subjective, and I don't know why that date is any safer than the original start date. Seems like there are a lot of really strange decisions being made for no rhyme or reason to me.
 
Tommy said:
I wonder how they came up with that date? Seems like a lot of the things being done due to COVID-19 are subjective, and I don't know why that date is any safer than the original start date. Seems like there are a lot of really strange decisions being made for no rhyme or reason to me.
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Tommy - if you don’t see why 11/21 is a safe start date for basketball compared to other dates in November, I’m not sure how any of us can help you. And clearly 11/25 is overkill on Covid safety, as most rational people can see. I’m not sure why you’re struggling with this... maybe turn your brain off and leave it to the experts in communicable disease?
 
Help me out.... Is this sarcasm? I'm guessing it is. Otherwise, why is 11/21 better than 11/13? Or even 11/10, the original NCAA start date for the season? If they just left the start date as 11/10. it would have made life a lot easier for everyone. Now, hundreds of games have to be cancelled or rescheduled. And why would 11/25 be "overkill", but 4 days earlier is ideal?
BTW, 11/25 was the original date the NCAA was going to pick, but they were persuaded to move it back to 11/21 just so the several tournaments on the weekend of 11/21-11/23 wouldn't have to be cancelled. That saves a large number of games from being affected.
 
Da Coach said:
Help me out.... Is this sarcasm? I'm guessing it is. Otherwise, why is 11/21 better than 11/13? Or even 11/10, the original NCAA start date for the season? If they just left the start date as 11/10. it would have made life a lot easier for everyone. Now, hundreds of games have to be cancelled or rescheduled. And why would 11/25 be "overkill", but 4 days earlier is ideal?
BTW, 11/25 was the original date the NCAA was going to pick, but they were persuaded to move it back to 11/21 just so the several tournaments on the weekend of 11/21-11/23 wouldn't have to be cancelled. That saves a large number of games from being affected.
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haha! Dub was definitely being sarcastic! I think we're all frustrated with the constant changes without any explanation as to why.

I'm just ready for some BU basketball and the longer they put it off, the more agitated I'll get! It's literally my only hobby!
 
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