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Next year? Might as well begin the message board discussions...

BU FAMILY said:
Why in the hell would anybody want to give serious consideration to a candidate being "pushed" by JG? Does anybody recall that's she is the reason we are in this mess in the first place?
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I could not agree with you more. You talk about a lack of credibility. I didn't even know that it was official Geno had been fired and the university was actively looking for a new head coach. If this is true, the university is totally bush league.
 
Da Coach said:
I heard another name today as Bradley's next head coach while talking to someone who is a friend of a former PJ Star sports writer who has a lot of connections with former college coaches.
For what it's worth, this name is getting serious consideration, and was suggested and is being pushed by outgoing President Glasser.

Since there were some people who blew a gasket the last time I correctly predicted a firing a week before anyone else reported it, I will not post this name right now.

But if anyone is interested in this development, I am happy to share what I know.
Send me a Private Message.
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Could it be because it was posted on this board before the individual fired had not been officially notified? And if this isn't true, why was it taken down?
 
Can't answer for sure. The spokesman for Bradley said our information was wrong, but that was not the case.
 
The information was correct, the timing was wrong. The individual should have been told by the university, before it hit the message boards.
 
Vent said:
The information was correct, the timing was wrong. The individual should have been told by the university, before it hit the message boards.
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Vent - every firing that has happened at Bradley since the invention of the message boards has been discussed on the message boards before or regardless of whether the "timing was right" or the info made known publicly...

I actually do slightly agree with you that there's a degree of etiquette & fairness about what gets said - except for a few factors....


#1 - even Kirk Wessler two weeks earlier had said essentially the exact same thing, that Dr. Cross would be following Dr. Glasser out the door - nobody blew a gasket then?

#2 - there was a discussion on a different board with claims that Jim Les had been fired back in March 2010... a full year before it actually did happen.
(but of course it did not happen in 2010)
A couple of the posters - one in particular who swore his claims were true and staked his reputation on it - claimed Les had been fired by Glasser--
the discussion became so intense - that Kirk Wessler even wrote an article about all these rumors-
must not have had anything factual to talk about that day...
http://www.pjstar.com/x1838117210/Wessler-Is-March-going-out-like-a-lyin

The huge difference this time around is that while Dave Reynolds was tweeting that it was NOT true and that the Bradley people were "saying it was not true" - it was, in fact TRUE - and it was THEM who were either wrong or lying!
 
tornado said:
Vent - every firing that has happened at Bradley since the invention of the message boards has been discussed on the message boards before or regardless of whether the "timing was right" or the info made known publicly...

I actually do slightly agree with you that there's a degree of etiquette & fairness about what gets said - except for a few factors....


#1 - even Kirk Wessler two weeks earlier had said essentially the exact same thing, that Dr. Cross would be following Dr. Glasser out the door - nobody blew a gasket then?

#2 - there was a discussion on a different board with claims that Jim Les had been fired back in March 2010... a full year before it actually did happen.
(but of course it did not happen in 2010)
A couple of the posters - one in particular who swore his claims were true and staked his reputation on it - claimed Les had been fired by Glasser--
the discussion became so intense - that Kirk Wessler even wrote an article about all these rumors-
must not have had anything factual to talk about that day...
http://www.pjstar.com/x1838117210/Wessler-Is-March-going-out-like-a-lyin

The huge difference this time around is that while Dave Reynolds was tweeting that it was NOT true and that the Bradley people were "saying it was not true" - it was, in fact TRUE - and it was THEM who were either wrong or lying!
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I do not believe two wrongs make a right.
 
The Nerve!

The Nerve!

wizard said:
The very thought that Joanne Glasser is having any kind of viable input to selecting the next coach scares H-LL out of me. After all we have been through to get these changes made and to get BU back on track, I cannot believe that the BOT would be so derelict and irresponsible. Something is really wrong with BU if this is how our trustees are thinking. Wiz
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I agree too! Someone tell Coach K BU is going to pass on him, cause JG and BOT are pushing for him. The nerve of the BOT to listen to JG or search before AD named and GF officially released! ;-) ;-) :lol:
 
Vent said:
I do not believe two wrongs make a right.
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nope - never said that -
I thought I made myself quite clear - I was pointing out ONLY ONE THING

... I am 100% consistent and have thought in each situation we ought to be careful with attitude when someone is let go - I never went ballistic the other times it happened- and I posted plainly that I did not favor discussing it based on rumor two weeks ago... 100% consistent..

I was only pointing out that the ONLY people who are inconsistent here and hypocritical - are those who argue it's perfectly OK to discuss firings & rumors when it applies to people they don't like - but that it is wrong, hurtful, and has to be removed when it involves the people THEY SUPPORT.
 
Sounds like the decision has been made, especially if we are talking to other coaches to find out if they are interested. It just won't become official until sometime after our final game. It just doesn't make us look very good when we're looking at candidates for a position that's not even officially available.
 
wizard said:
T...I think you forgot Brett Burchette in your list of good guys who should stay.
Wiz
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Has anyone else talked with Brett Burchette lately.. I know you have wizard...
but here's what I guess bothers me a little...

where we see how far Bradley has gone in the wrong direction - hiring the wrong people, ticking off fans, raising ticket prices, moving games to the campus gym, driving off so many fans, and continuing to tout how great they have done and how the fans really don't don't see what a tremendous job everyone's done & Bradley's doing better than any time the past 30 years ....etc...

what bothers me is that this is apparently where Burchette stands....unwilling to admit we need changes, unwilling to concede fans have plenty of right to feel ignored & angry.... unwilling to actually admit there's any problem at all in the way they're running things - despite taking us in just five short years from RECORD REVENUES in Athletics to RECORD SPENDING & DEBT of over $7.1 million per year down the drain - and the all time worst stretch of BAD Bradley basketball and last place finishes Bradley has ever seen!
that he's part of the very group that has destroyed Bradley athletics & he does NOT see the problem the way everyone else does -
that of the things I have heard him say, and tweet - and things I have heard others tell me- that he stands behind all those horrid decisions and moves that have torpedoes Bradley's success.

I know it is his job somewhat to be a cheerleader - but what I would prefer to hear - and I have said this all along -
I would prefer to hear ..
"Gee, I know we have some serious problems, and we're getting our noses to the grindstones, and we WANT to hear what the fans think and we will respond & we will find the solutions, and we will DO BETTER."

Instead, what we do hear..
"we're doing better than any time in the past 30 years, let's give everyone in the department a big raise & a nice long extension. The fans are uneducated, impatient, and hard to please - we DON'T want to hear what they say - we wish they'd shut up and just be satisfied with what we give them - take their comments off the message boards - in fact shut the message boards down..stop writing letters..
AND - stop trying to talk with us at the Bradley games - we're busy & we don't want to hear what the fans say - in fact we're going to walk right by you and not even make eye contact. We run this program and who do you think you are to interfere?
.....fans don't know how good they have it, we never made a dammm cent on those people buying the cheap seats in the upper bowl, and wow - Cross Country did well in regionals so the Basketball fans should shut up and be happy, etc...
We don't care if your tickets are expensive and you paid your maintenence faithfully for 30 years, we're taking your tickets and selling them off to the highest bidder who isn't really a fan, he's just an advertiser who for a little while is willing to spend more than you.
 
I think it is reasonable to look at who are the best coaches in the conferences that are a notch below us....
this is where we, along with U of I got their current guys the last time we hired...

MAC - right now the best coaches in the Mac are Toledo's Todd Kowalczyk & Buffalo's Bobby Hurley. Not sure if either would take the BU job - Hurley's an east coast guy and Kowalczyk would surely make one call to Geno and would probably say no thanks.

Horizon- three best coaches in the Horizon are Valparaiso's Bryce Drew and Green Bay's Brian Wardle plus Cleveland State's Gary Waters (wins even in Cleveland!)
I could be happy with any of these three but wonder if any of them would look at Bradley as a step UP? Might have to make a big offer to get any of them - and all three would certainly say NO to the terms that have been the standard at BU recently with upper level meddling.
But I have thought all along that each of these guys is a good option.

Summit
Summit is interesting - South Dakota State is on top once again - they are every single year - so why does their head coach Scott Nagy not get the interest that any other coach with this consistent winning gets?
Don't know - but BU will almost certainly pursue...He's not flamboyant, not obnoxiously self-promoting but I am ok with that....and we're already paying more than triple what he makes now..but the guy puts up 20 wins a year and does it with players the MVC doesn't give a call to.
He actually is a VERY good coach
One problem though - just look at his roster and look at his stats - he wins by recruiting shooters.
Almost everyone on his teams shoots 40% and better from outside...
Nagy's teams rely on shooters - kids who can sink the open shot...
....a couple years ago he had Nate Wolters - a really great college player who was in the exact mold of Alec Peters
..went on to score 2352 career points!
Many people thought after Wolters left, then Nagy would have a dropoff....NOPE - just 25-9 the next year and another 20-win season currently!
BUT - we don't have ANYONE like the players he uses - so he probably wouldn't be happy with the roster at BU
...- so it would take years for him to get the players he can win with but surely he'd land the Alec Peters/Gavin Block/Garrett Covington types...and Bradley fans might appreciate that the guy can coach and win.
The other top team right now in the Summit is North Dakota State but their coach hasn't even been there a year - benefiting largely from the hoarde of good players left behind by Saul Phillips who was hired away to Ohio (who btw- are in last place in the MAC).
The jury is out on North Dakota State's Dave Richman.
 
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They are going to have to get a name and pay them to get fans back. They can't take another chance they have to get this right.
 
If the BU coaching position opens up as it appears it may, fans should not set their sights too high in their expectations of the next coach. The Bradley job is not the job it was back in the 80's or even four years ago.

A lot of young coaches have no idea of the success Bradley had back in the 80's. There are going to be multiple firings take place as teams are eliminated from the post season conference tournaments. Coaching openings from the Big 10, Big 12, ACC, SEC, Pac 12, Big East, American Athletic and Atlantic 10 will get the top candidates due to exposure and money.

Bradley needs to get a young coach that has aspirations on going to the next level, when he leaves here. He also needs to surround himself with quality assistants to can take the position when he moves on. This is what Butler did as well as some other schools. We need to have a stable program again, with sustained success.
 
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