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I haven't given up on a possible NIT / CBI tournament appearance by BU this year...or even the distinct possibility that they could run the table and win an NCAA birth in St. Lou...but I'm also thinking toward next year, and must admit, I'm as excited as I've been in years about next year's BU team. Here's why: 1. AW returns to give BU the much needed perimeter game it lacked this year and 15-20 ppg. 2. Attention given to AW should make it easier for other guards like DD, EM and SM to score. 3. Will Egolf is poised to be a viable 5 who can score inside or outside...giving BU a scoring option from 5 spot. 4. Jordan Prosser will eventually develop into a legit low block scoring threat as he's proven acceptional aptitude in getting put-backs and around the basket garbage hoops...this will give BU depth (including MK) it hasn't had at the 4/5 spot since...?

That's not to mention normal development of Norris, Brown and McCain.

There will be much love from the pundits for Creighton (returning Stinnett and Lawson), UNI (returning most of their team), and ISU (returning Eldridge and Odiakosa), but BU will be the team to beat IMO.
 
I agree with many of your opinions, the thing that concerns me most is losing T.Wilson who is not only a good player but our toughest one, plus T.Brown is not getting enough minutes and AT not any minutes, Will Egolf is a huge ? because of his injury and going up against Creighton, Ill.St. and UNI"s experienced inside personnel will be a very tough task, we should have the best guards in the league.
 
doug shank's crossover said:
I haven't given up on a possible NIT / CBI tournament appearance by BU this year...or even the distinct possibility that they could run the table and win an NCAA birth in St. Lou...but I'm also thinking toward next year, and must admit, I'm as excited as I've been in years about next year's BU team. Here's why: 1. AW returns to give BU the much needed perimeter game it lacked this year and 15-20 ppg. 2. Attention given to AW should make it easier for other guards like DD, EM and SM to score. 3. Will Egolf is poised to be a viable 5 who can score inside or outside...giving BU a scoring option from 5 spot. 4. Jordan Prosser will eventually develop into a legit low block scoring threat as he's proven acceptional aptitude in getting put-backs and around the basket garbage hoops...this will give BU depth (including MK) it hasn't had at the 4/5 spot since...?

That's not to mention normal development of Norris, Brown and McCain.

There will be much love from the pundits for Creighton (returning Stinnett and Lawson), UNI (returning most of their team), and ISU (returning Eldridge and Odiakosa), but BU will be the team to beat IMO.
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I agree, never give up! There could be some very good things happen to this team, yet!
 
It does look like next year's team could be very, very good. Yet with the way things have been the last couple years, the pessimist in me can't help but wonder what will go wrong next year (injury or something else) to derail us again.

Hopefully we can finally have an injury/trouble free year in 2009-10 and finally win another MVC title.
 
doug shank's crossover said:
I haven't given up on a possible NIT / CBI tournament appearance by BU this year...or even the distinct possibility that they could run the table and win an NCAA birth in St. Lou...but I'm also thinking toward next year, and must admit, I'm as excited as I've been in years about next year's BU team. Here's why: 1. AW returns to give BU the much needed perimeter game it lacked this year and 15-20 ppg. 2. Attention given to AW should make it easier for other guards like DD, EM and SM to score. 3. Will Egolf is poised to be a viable 5 who can score inside or outside...giving BU a scoring option from 5 spot. 4. Jordan Prosser will eventually develop into a legit low block scoring threat as he's proven acceptional aptitude in getting put-backs and around the basket garbage hoops...this will give BU depth (including MK) it hasn't had at the 4/5 spot since...?

That's not to mention normal development of Norris, Brown and McCain.

There will be much love from the pundits for Creighton (returning Stinnett and Lawson), UNI (returning most of their team), and ISU (returning Eldridge and Odiakosa), but BU will be the team to beat IMO.
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Don't forget about the 2010-2011 team! Subtract Collins, Singh, TW, CR, and DD but add AW, WE, JP, MK and an extra year of experience for everyone on the team! On paper, that team is stacked. (knocks on wood)

I haven't given up on this team. Get back to keeping teams around 60 points and make some plays down the stretch in St. Louis and I still think this team can win the Valley. :mrgreen:
 
VeveJones007 said:
Don't forget about the 2010-2011 team! Subtract Collins, Singh, TW, CR, and DD but add AW, WE, JP, MK and an extra year of experience for everyone on the team! On paper, that team is stacked. (knocks on wood)

I haven't given up on this team. Get back to keeping teams around 60 points and make some plays down the stretch in St. Louis and I still think this team can win the Valley. :mrgreen:
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Don't forget JW (I hope) for 2010-2011.
 
I agree I am excited about next year's team.

1) AW rejoining us is about a push with the loss of Theron-probably a positive from a scoring perspective but a loss from a rebounding/toughness perspective (not saying AW is soft but just does not give us what Theron does). AW will also be a positive because he will force the opposing defense to extend.

2) Getting WE back is a slight positive from SS and DC. It will a big positive if WE comes back quickly and a slight positive if it takes him as long as it might to get back in rythm.

3) The growth of our returning players especially EM, TB and DN.

4) MK and JP -they will be freshmen but I am optimistic with these two.

5) We still have 2 open scholy's for next year so who knows

6) I saw AT plan in HS a fair number of times and I thought he'd see the court this year but I still think he will be a special player before he is done.


But it is a young conference and others will be better too...
 
houstonbrave said:
I agree I am excited about next year's team.

1) AW rejoining us is about a push with the loss of Theron-probably a positive from a scoring perspective but a loss from a rebounding/toughness perspective (not saying AW is soft but just does not give us what Theron does). AW will also be a positive because he will force the opposing defense to extend.

2) Getting WE back is a slight positive from SS and DC. It will a big positive if WE comes back quickly and a slight positive if it takes him as long as it might to get back in rythm.

3) The growth of our returning players especially EM, TB and DN.

4) MK and JP -they will be freshmen but I am optimistic with these two.

5) We still have 2 open scholy's for next year so who knows

6) I saw AT plan in HS a fair number of times and I thought he'd see the court this year but I still think he will be a special player before he is done.


But it is a young conference and others will be better too...
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Agree with everything. We will probably be picked 4th or 5th simply because we haven't proven we are better than that. I'd put good money that Creighton, UNI, and ISU are your top 3. After that it's probably us, Wichita St, and probably SIU. The bottom is still pretty weak.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Agree with everything. We will probably be picked 4th or 5th simply because we haven't proven we are better than that. I'd put good money that Creighton, UNI, and ISU are your top 3. After that it's probably us, Wichita St, and probably SIU. The bottom is still pretty weak.
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Yep, we should be picked 4th or so going into next year...that would be about right. With some breaks, we would have a chance to finish better than that.

You're right about the bottom of the conference being bad next year...Evansville will be awful. They aren't very good right now and they lose Ely, Holsinger, and Garner...yikes. They will return about 20% of their scoring from this year. Ugly.
 
TheHeemyMonster said:
I think the Valley can be a 3 bid league next year
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I'll put a million dollars on the under.

Who are going to be the two at large teams next year? Creighton will likely be picked to win the league again...so you think that two teams from the group of UNI, ISU, BU, WSU, or SIU are going to somehow put together an at large resume? I don't know...I really don't see it.
 
ER3 said:
I'll put a million dollars on the under.

Who are going to be the two at large teams next year? Creighton will likely be picked to win the league again...so you think that two teams from the group of UNI, ISU, BU, WSU, or SIU are going to somehow put together an at large resume? I don't know...I really don't see it.
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Yeah, the key word is that we can be a three-bid league. I personally see us being a two-bid league conference, but three is certainly possible.
 
ER3 said:
I'll put a million dollars on the under.

Who are going to be the two at large teams next year? Creighton will likely be picked to win the league again...so you think that two teams from the group of UNI, ISU, BU, WSU, or SIU are going to somehow put together an at large resume? I don't know...I really don't see it.
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You're assuming Creighton is going to win the Valley tourney. I agree they will likely win the regular season, but I think history shows us that doesn't translate into winning in St. Louis. If Creighton doesn't win the auto, then I still like their chances as an at large. Now...only one other team must produce a resume deemed worthy by the NCAA. I think that could happen. I belive Wichita will be a contender next season.
 
Next years team will be deep at gaurd with the bigs a question mark.
The gaurds will really be something. Going into this year(without AW) our guards had 1 year experience with BU and 2 total D1 years of experience. Next year our gaurds will return 8 years of BU experience and 9 total D1 years. That is a huge difference! We will have put all those 1st year adjustments behind us.
The bigs are a question mark again. TB is awesome and could put up numbers similar to what AW did as a sophmore. If WE picks up where he left off we will be pretty good. Throw in JP and maybe we will be real good. Lets hope for the best from MK and AT and who ever else we sign. One more year experience for Les and new practice digs!
The league will be better but I am drinking the Koolaid for sure.
 
I would bet that we are looking at a JUCO big for next year. It will take a bit for WE to work himself back to complete game shape mentally and physically. I hope we are only holding AT back because he is just not physical enough yet to handle playing minutes and JL does not want to see him get hurt. I really have no idea what AT can bring to a game:confused:
JP and MKwill be freshmen with two different skill sets. My predictions are that TB will start at the 4 with MK backing him up. JP has a great chance to start at the 5 unless WE is a real quick healer or AT is the real deal or we get a legitimate 5 from a JUCO. It would be nice to have JP at the 4 and a real 5 at the 5 but I doubt it. My ideal line up and back ups for next year.

EM - SM backup
AW - SM and DN backup
TB - DD and CR backup
JP - MK backup
WE - JUCO and AT backup

What we will probably see though is:
EM - SM backup
SM - DN, DD Backup
AW - DD, CR backup
TB - CR, JP, MK backup
WE or JUCO AT Backup

Small ball again!
 
For me you'd have something like this (players in specific order) --

1 - EM, SM, DN
2 - AW, SM, DN
3 - DD, CR, AW, MK
4 - TB, JP, MK, AT
5 - WE, JP, AT
 
I am not for bringing in a juco 5. The bigs next year just need to get it done. My opinion is that the type of juco big BU could get would take a minimum of half a year to get up to speed. By that time WE should be back. With the juco coming from his 2 year morman work and possibly JW, BU will have enough size. Knowing that in 1 year DD and CR will be gone and 1 more year and AW and SM will be gone, BU will be left with 2 short guards. I think BU needs to get a freshman guard who has some size and can shoot the 3. Also, when SM is a senior and EM is a junior, BU better be finding another point guard. I do not want to see anymore seasons where if the point guard is out for an injury, a 2 guard has to play point.
 
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