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Official Annoucement of Bradley's LOI's

chitownBUB said:
Sad to see Buycks name not on the list, but it's a pretty good recruiting class anyway!

Bradley???‚¬?„?s 2006-07 Recruiting Class

Player Yr. Pos. Ht. Hometown High School Last School

Tyrone Cole-Scott Jr. G 5-10 Waterloo, Iowa East H.S. Tyler (Texas) J.C.

David Collins Jr. C 7-0 Toronto, Ontario Emery Collegiate Institute Missouri State-West Plains

Will Egolf Fr. F/C 6-9 Juneau, Alaska Douglas H.S. Douglas H.S.

Sam Maniscalco Fr. G 6-0 Chicago, Ill. St. Patrick H.S. St. Patrick H.S.

Anthony Thompson Fr. C 6-10 Houston, Texas Klein Forest H.S. Klein Forest H.S.

DeAaron Williams Jr. G/F 6-5 Peoria, Ill. Limestone H.S. Illinois Central College
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hopefully a good year next year will keep buycks on our resume
 
OrangeandBlack74 said:
I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.
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I would like to know what your evidence is for your accusation toward ICC? Coach Wysinger is a good friend of mine and I consider your comments out of line with what I know of him and ICC. If you have evidence of this, show it, if not quit pointing fingers! As a professor of over 10 years I have found you cannot force a student to do anything if they lack the personal desire, period. :x
 
First of all, I hate the "Red Shirt" mantra that frequents this sight. If the intention is to "red Shirt" a freshman, that Freshman should be told in advance to his submtting an LOI.
That being said, if Coley wants to come to Bradley, I know of an extremely thin-underdeveloped player from Houston, who probably should "redshirt."
What I do not know, and I am sure you all will enlighten me, does a "red shirt" player count against your 13 scholarships?
If it does not, I know what I would attempt to do, if I were Coach Les.
 
georgethedog said:
OrangeandBlack74 said:
I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.
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I would like to know what your evidence is for your accusation toward ICC? Coach Wysinger is a good friend of mine and I consider your comments out of line with what I know of him and ICC. If you have evidence of this, show it, if not quit pointing fingers! As a professor of over 10 years I have found you cannot force a student to do anything if they lack the personal desire, period. :x
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Gtd, in your opinion from what you may know first hand, are you saying maybe DW lacks that personal desire you mention?
 
MacabreMob said:
georgethedog said:
OrangeandBlack74 said:
I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.
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I would like to know what your evidence is for your accusation toward ICC? Coach Wysinger is a good friend of mine and I consider your comments out of line with what I know of him and ICC. If you have evidence of this, show it, if not quit pointing fingers! As a professor of over 10 years I have found you cannot force a student to do anything if they lack the personal desire, period. :x
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Gtd, in your opinion from what you may know first hand, are you saying maybe DW lacks that personal desire you mention?
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I cannot say for sure, and what has been said to me was in confidence. As with many kids there may be a lack of seeing the importance of college to get personal goals accomplished. For kids that think this way they need to at least come to the conclusion that their basketball career is in jeopardy without college and at least see it as a necessary thing to get the most out of his chances of playing as a career. Didn't say much did I? :?
 
Big Mike said:
For me.................you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it? :-o :wink:
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Ah yes, but if you lead a man to a beer.....

(DRU - am I right?)

:lol:

Gtd, thanks for your response. Was well said, IMO.
 
georgethedog said:
OrangeandBlack74 said:
I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.
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I would like to know what your evidence is for your accusation toward ICC? Coach Wysinger is a good friend of mine and I consider your comments out of line with what I know of him and ICC. If you have evidence of this, show it, if not quit pointing fingers! As a professor of over 10 years I have found you cannot force a student to do anything if they lack the personal desire, period. :x
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First of all, I agree with your comment about personal desire. It helps when the student/athlete has the desire to succeed in school and complete his/her graduation requirements.

However, most student/athletes require someone in authority to follow up and make sure that they are attending class and performing their schoolwork. It sounds to me as if ICC could have (and should have) done a better job in DW's situation.

I made no specific negative comment toward Coach Wy or any other staff member. I only know what I read in the paper and hear on this and other message boards.
 
It's an undisputable fact that junior college athletic departments do not have the resources that Division I colleges have. If you need any evidence of that, just check out the websites of ICC athletics:
http://www.icc.edu/athletics/
or Bradley athleics:
http://bubraves.com/

The difference in the athletic departments' budgets between the 2 is vast. Bradley spends large sums to employ support staff, develop academic programs for the athletes' success, and to help the student athletes in varieties of ways. Here are just a couple of the sites that explain some of the programs in place at Bradley for the help and support of the student athletes--
http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&KEY=&ATCLID=130328&SPID=1494&SPSID=25993

http://www.bubraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&KEY=&ATCLID=130272

I am no expert on ICC or the academic support staff that they employ. But I am certain there is no comparison in the number of academic support staff available for the student-athletes, or the amount of resources dedicated to their academic success. If I am wrong, I would like to hear from anyone who can describe the systems in place at ICC that remotely compare to those at Bradley and most Div I schools. Note that there is nothing on the ICC athletic website concerning academics.

Furthermore, the NCAA has adopted strict academic standards and graduation rates for all their member institutions. NCAA member colleges are required to comply or risk losing scholarships, and ultimately losing revenues.
The NJCAA has no such standards.

I know most people already realize most of this, but it goes without saying that athletes at a school like Bradley will receive far more help to guarantee their academic success than ICC could ever afford to offer their athletes. It's not a matter of how much Coach Wy does or cares, he simply cannot keep track of the athletes and their academic progress like 4-year schools do routinely.
 
I do know for a fact that ICC employs a person that monitors student athlete's classroom performance and meets with them during the semester. I also know that ICC faculty routinely fill out progress reports on all ICC athletes and that gets passed on to the monitor I spoke about in my first sentence. I agree with DaCoach in his assessment of the difference between the size of the budgets each school has to work with to monitor an athlete's progress. I believe he is very accurate in his post. However, ICC does have a system to monitor performance and it is the student's duty to do the work. If DW gets through ICC this year (which we all hope he does) but then fails to make the grade at BU, would you be as quick to judge BU as you did ICC Mr. OrangeandBlack74? :wink:
 
georgethedog said:
... If DW gets through ICC this year (which we all hope he does) but then fails to make the grade at BU...:
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Here's how likely I think that is...and although I don't know everything,
I have been a pretty good fan of BU basketball for 40 years since the Joe Allen era.

And....I cannot recall one player ever, in all that time, that ever lost even ONE GAME to academic problems....not one single "Lorenzo Gordon" in 40 years.
(this doesn't count those who, like Daniel Ruffin or Jermaine Brown, were non-qualifiers out of high school, because you can't hardly hold BU responsible for that!)
............I think this qualifies BU to get a pass on any wisecracks about someone failing....it just isn't going to happen!!
 
All this importaint and relevant talk about academia, tutors, self determination and motiavtion......posters getting a bit testy with eachother and lines being drawn in the sand.



And then somehow its takes a dive to Dru, dogs and beer..... :lol:

Hey anything at my expense to lighten the moment.....its what I do best. Sometimes by reputation only :wink:

BEER.....good. 8)
 
dogsrus said:
All this importaint and relevant talk about academia, tutors, self determination and motiavtion......posters getting a bit testy with eachother and lines being drawn in the sand.



And then somehow its takes a dive to Dru, dogs and beer..... :lol:

Hey anything at my expense to lighten the moment.....its what I do best. Sometimes by reputation only :wink:

BEER.....good. 8)
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No, BEER very, very good! :lol:
 
dogsrus said:
All this importaint and relevant talk about academia, tutors, self determination and motiavtion......posters getting a bit testy with eachother and lines being drawn in the sand.



And then somehow its takes a dive to Dru, dogs and beer..... :lol:

Hey anything at my expense to lighten the moment.....its what I do best. Sometimes by reputation only :wink:

BEER.....good. 8)
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Sorry DRU - I guess I am still ticked you never showed at Jimmy's after the Providence game to buy the first jar.

Tell ya what - I will buy the first jar before Midnight Madness (one for you too, GTD).

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