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Official Red-White Scrimmage Updates/Thoughts/Analysis Thread

You think it's an easy fix (getting into shape) or is his skill set just not up to par?

My hope is that its just a matter of playing with D1 talent and getting used to the pace and strength of the college athlete. I'm giving him the benefit right now since it will even still be some time before TB is up to speed after sitting out a year.
 
You put Taylor Shayok and Jordan across the frontline and it is very good, Hodges will be fine after he adjusts more to college ball as he has skills, Wells can help us this year even if it is for 5 to 8 minutes a game, Thompson played well and is good in a fast paced game, DSE, W.L. J.C. and J.E. are 4 good guards and will look much better when on the floor with their 1st team players, Milos can shoot but still needs to be wide open, D.S. has a lot of work to do as he is way behind the 4 guards I mentioned, Prosser will also look better when he is on the floor with S.S. and Taylor.
It will be easier to evaluate them after the first exb. game when Geno will be playing a true rotation plus it is always harder scrimmaging agaist your teamates.
 
My impressions.

For a brand new facility, the sound system is ATROCIOUS! The system sounds as if it was purchased used from a small junior high school that was looking to upgrade!

As for the team:


Milos has bulked up and his footwork looked vastly improved. I think there is a good chance he contributes this year.

DS is ok but is clearly behind the other guards at this point. He handles the rock very well. Perhaps it was a case of the jitters, but he missed a few wide open shots.

So far I like what I see from Crawford.

Hodges looks rusty and completely lost. From what I had read, I thought that Hodges would have been a little bulkier. Hope he improves, as we could use him.

During layup drills, I thought that Wells was a 7 foot division 3 player, but he showed me something during the scrimmage. He runs the floor very well for a big guy. I know we have depth issues, but Wells really should redshirt.

It is very tough to evaluate the big guys and most of the team for that matter until they are seen against some competition.

That being said, I will throw out a semi-comparison.

The player I was most impressed with last night was Shayock! For anyone out of the area, Shayock has major upside:!: I was texting a friend last night during the scrimmage and he was asking for a comparison. He asked if Shayock was comparable to Theron. I responded no. We need to see him play against competition, but I texted that Shaycok is reminiscent of a very young JJ Anderson. I am not saying that SS will be as good as Anderson in any way, but the ability to create, the mid range and I think long range shot is there, and SS has the basic skill set as a Freshman to become a very good player for us. Oh and he likes to rebound!8)

Beninator over and out for a while....
 
I think the only thing that is going to get students to the game immediately is the team winning or free giveaways such as food or beer. A previous last place team isn't going to get students motivated to come to the game. I highly doubt the season game on campus will have much more student attendance than the Red/White scrimmage.

Jason
 
My hope is that its just a matter of playing with D1 talent and getting used to the pace and strength of the college athlete. I'm giving him the benefit right now since it will even still be some time before TB is up to speed after sitting out a year.

I'm not worried about TB being ready for Game 1 of the regular season. Shake off the rust in the 1st 2 exhibition games and he'll be ready to rock.
 
I think the only thing that is going to get students to the game immediately is the team winning or free giveaways such as food or beer. A previous last place team isn't going to get students motivated to come to the game. I highly doubt the season game on campus will have much more student attendance than the Red/White scrimmage.

Jason

Free beer and food woud be sweet.
But the fact is that last night was a scrimmage on a Tuesday. Plus all of Greek life has chapter meetings at 9 on Tuesday so a lot of them would have opted out.
 
Thanks for all the info. on the Red-White Scrimmage.

Encouraging...Sounds like effort was there.

GF has a track record of being able to coach. So, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting will decide the ultimate fate of GF and the Braves program!

PS Playing on campus may not be as important to student attendance as thought/hoped for. Appears BU has a ways to go (parking/audio) before considering more games on campus that count....
 
Guys,

If this team isnt a contender, which its not, and Nate Wells has a shot to be decent, I would much rather have him in his 5th year than his first.
 
we have to get someone hitting 3's -- i know DSE can and Milos ..but it would help a ton if someone hits at least 35-40%

The only guy who shot 35% last year graduated. Somebody is going to have to have made significant strides. It's happened in the past, but I don't see it on this team unless DSE is a better shooter for not having to handle the ball so much.
 
1. Just about every 7-footer wants to play professional basketball - many having NBA dreams...That being the case - the smart money would say a year as a redshirt would go along way to helping Nate achieve that

2. Kurt Pegler was also there with a video cam....

http://centralillinoisproud.com/fulltext?nxd_id=206477

1. Hopefully NW won't decide to bail for the NBA after one red shirt season and one playing season at BU! :eek:

Perhaps two playing seasons at BU for NW wouldn't be such a bad idea after all... ;-)

2. KP doing advanced scouting for ISU Red? :twisted:
 
GOOD WORK FWO ! !

these are the extras we need to be provided

And Sticks 2 out of 5 from 3! He's going to do it all this season!

Thanks :)
 
Free beer and food woud be sweet.
But the fact is that last night was a scrimmage on a Tuesday. Plus all of Greek life has chapter meetings at 9 on Tuesday so a lot of them would have opted out.

Sorry, that excuse just doesn't explain the extremely weak turnout. The scrimmage was over before 8:30 pm. I live 15 minutes outside Peoria, and I was home by 8:40pm. This scrimmage was heavily promoted to students by Bradley and by the Red Sea guys, and students were admitted free.
Maybe students just don't care enough any more.
 
Was anyone else disappointed in Coach Ford's comments last night? I thought Paula Buscher did a much better job when she spoke about the women's team. I don't get to the "galas" so I was hoping this would be a good chance to hear from the new coach, and he spoke for what -- two minutes?

I enjoyed past scrimmages when Coach Les introduced his players, especially the newcomers, with some personal stories. Coach Buscher did that last night with the story of her player who ran a charity golf outing this summer. All I remember Geno saying was that the program needs to get back to where it needs to be.

I'm for that, and think Geno can be the guy, but really wanted to hear more from him last night.

BTW, Lemon, Shayok, and AT impressed me on the court.
 
Guys,

If this team isnt a contender, which its not, and Nate Wells has a shot to be decent, I would much rather have him in his 5th year than his first.

Couldn't this be said for all freshmen? I'd say there's something seriously wrong with a kid that isn't better in his 5th year than his first.

That said.....I would rather have NW coming off the bench this season than DH.
 
Sorry, that excuse just doesn't explain the extremely weak turnout. The scrimmage was over before 8:30 pm. I live 15 minutes outside Peoria, and I was home by 8:40pm. This scrimmage was heavily promoted to students by Bradley and by the Red Sea guys, and students were admitted free.
Maybe students just don't care enough any more.

I completely agree, which is why I find it amazing that an on-campus game against SEMO is supposed to increase interest among students. Then again....it might not take much to increase that interest. We'll see.
 
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