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Pathetic

I had to leave with 13 minutes to go but even then and before that it was not hard to see that they were taking complete advantage of SM, he is to slow to guard anyone with any speed. He also took several completely ill advised shots.

Sickening we lose up 7 with less then 2 to play on our home court. To me with 2 on the road coming up this type of loss will kill a season quickly.

JL better get control of his coaching very quickly. Going zone, not attacking a zone press out of a time out, playing a walk on, BTW if your going to dig deep on the bench and go walk on that is when you go zone to hide that person, not man to man v Fay.

Terrible loss and real possiblity to come back next Wednesday at 1-3. Mo for all his faults rarely if ever lost 3 straight home games.

I still cant believe he thought it was a good move to play Philips at all. Just a silly coaching move. But worst of all we simply have no point guard. We have one who shoots, but cant defend and we have one who cant shoot but can defend. Games are won in this conference in the back court. We wont win much with what we put out on the court from the 1. And if one of them is hurt stop playing him until he is healthy.

JL your ship is sinking bigtime, you better wake up and figure it out quick and stop playing walk ons. And if you have to put Warren at the 1 because SM is going to get exploited every night and EM is not going to get guarded ever.
 
When you lose like Bradley did, it's easy to second-guess any moves the coaches made. I was critical of several things in the Loyola game, but I did not see anything obvious in this game that the coaching could be faulted for.

I did not read the whole thread yet, so forgive me if this was already posted, but I have 1 HUGE issue I am second guessing coach Les on. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY go to a 1-3-1 zone with SIU coming out of a timeout down by 7 with a minute and a half to go. You KNOW they are drawing up a play for a three points shot... and you go to a zone and give the a WIDE open look. That play, IMO, was when i looked over to my friend sitting next to me and said, we will lose this game.
 
.... BTW if your going to dig deep on the bench and go walk on that is when you go zone to hide that person, not man to man v Fay.

My thoughts exactly. SIU went right at "the walk-on" and exploited him mercilessly. I felt bad for the kid as it reminded me how bad I might look if I tried to guard Fay.
 
Houston, You are wrong about not having a PG! EM is that guy IMO. He played great D and to his defense he only took one shot. They were guarding him and he was breaking them down with his dribble. If we talk about D there is no comparison. EM is our best man2man defender bar none.

I like SM a lot but if he is hurting then there is no way he can be in great game shape. If you are injured then you are not practicing 100% of the time. It means you are in the trainers room in the ice tubbs, whirlpool and etc.. Not getting conditioned! SM is our last 2 minute guy because he is clutch but if you are winded things can change quickly.

One more thing. Where was MK? What did he do to be sitting? Something happened that has not been said. AT??? I'd have thought that either one would have done a better job on Fay then Ryan?????

WE had his best game to date!
 
He went to a zone to try to protect Brown from getting his 5th foul.


My son thought Brown would come back in then, and I said no...they should wait until they're on offense. Then he wouldn't have to worry about his 5th foul. I still stand by what I said at the time...Brown should not have come in at that time on defense...the result was an open 3 by Dillard.
 
Houston, You are wrong about not having a PG! EM is that guy IMO. He played great D and to his defense he only took one shot. They were guarding him and he was breaking them down with his dribble. If we talk about D there is no comparison. EM is our best man2man defender bar none.

SFP,

I believe a point guard is the floor general on the court, he gets the ball to the players who are scorers in the right spots, he plays tight, tough D, he handles the ball, when needed he makes open shots but knows not to force shots, he gets to the lane and either finishes or distributes the ball because he has caused the D to break down.

We do not have a point guard capable of what I just described. We have two who can do some of all but complete, absolutely not. And this is very surprising since we are coached by a guy who could do all of the above.

I though do agree EM is a better option especially v a team like SIU with a quick scoring guard. But JL insists SM is his man regardless of the time or situation on the scoreboard. SM is not the problem, the problem is JL playing him in situations he is not suited for and playing him while he is hurt.
 
All of the great BU teams seem to have had an above average PG. This needs to be a priority on the recruiting front. Let's hope and pray Donovine Stewart comes to BU. He may be just what we need (but unfortunately that's still two years away).
 
A 1st round NBA center can make a lot of coaches look good.
Murph I agree a 7'0" 1st round NBA center will make alot of coaches look good. I'm a firm believer GOOD PLAYERS can make a coach look good. Matter of fact its necessary. If your players are questionable you better have some asst's that can do more for you then you can. Does the name Tony Barone ring a bell. Tricky Dick wasn't the best coach in the world, but he could sure recruit and had Tony B. sitting right next to him. You be the judge what do we have in this scenerio? I will say again I do not agree with booing but if you really don't think things will change, remember money talks. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon ,but very disappointed in what I'm seeing from our bench. Go Braves lets get this turned around.
 
Murph I agree a 7'0" 1st round NBA center will make alot of coaches look good. I'm a firm believer GOOD PLAYERS can make a coach look good.

They can also make a coach look bad when they leave two years early, but then it's considered an "excuse" just like injuries. :roll:
I'm speaking of course about Bradley, which isn't accustomed to such a thing.
 
Murph I agree a 7'0" 1st round NBA center will make alot of coaches look good. I'm a firm believer GOOD PLAYERS can make a coach look good. Matter of fact its necessary. If your players are questionable you better have some asst's that can do more for you then you can. Does the name Tony Barone ring a bell. Tricky Dick wasn't the best coach in the world, but he could sure recruit and had Tony B. sitting right next to him. You be the judge what do we have in this scenerio? I will say again I do not agree with booing but if you really don't think things will change, remember money talks. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon ,but very disappointed in what I'm seeing from our bench. Go Braves lets get this turned around.

Nothing against Tony B because he was a great guy, but the first season he was gone the Braves went 32-3. Give Dick V a little credit.
 
I had to leave with 13 minutes to go but even then and before that it was not hard to see that they were taking complete advantage of SM, he is to slow to guard anyone with any speed. He also took several completely ill advised shots.

Sickening we lose up 7 with less then 2 to play on our home court. To me with 2 on the road coming up this type of loss will kill a season quickly.

JL better get control of his coaching very quickly. Going zone, not attacking a zone press out of a time out, playing a walk on, BTW if your going to dig deep on the bench and go walk on that is when you go zone to hide that person, not man to man v Fay.

Terrible loss and real possiblity to come back next Wednesday at 1-3. Mo for all his faults rarely if ever lost 3 straight home games.

I still cant believe he thought it was a good move to play Philips at all. Just a silly coaching move. But worst of all we simply have no point guard. We have one who shoots, but cant defend and we have one who cant shoot but can defend. Games are won in this conference in the back court. We wont win much with what we put out on the court from the 1. And if one of them is hurt stop playing him until he is healthy.

JL your ship is sinking bigtime, you better wake up and figure it out quick and stop playing walk ons. And if you have to put Warren at the 1 because SM is going to get exploited every night and EM is not going to get guarded ever.

Its plane to see why no DII or DIII teams offered SM JL was his only opportunity and JL has no clue. Last year in St Louis EM totally shut down Dillard and JL kept him on the bench and let SIU exploit SM, what gives. I'm no coach but daaah. I want to win not let my buddies kid get me beat.
 
Its plane to see why no DII or DIII teams offered SM JL was his only opportunity and JL has no clue. Last year in St Louis EM totally shut down Dillard and JL kept him on the bench and let SIU exploit SM, what gives. I'm no coach but daaah. I want to win not let my buddies kid get me beat.

I don't know where you get your information BUFAN but Maniscalco was clearly a mid-major D1 prospect. There were plenty of press clippings and reports saying as much. His contributions and stats at this point in his BU career are rivaled by few in BU history. Is he a top D1 PG? Maybe not. But he has certainly been a major asset to BU throughout his career and has most certainly proven that he is a D1 player.
 
BUFAN, I don't know where you get your info, you are completely wrong.

Sam had a lot of interest from D1s but he verballed to Bradley in August before his senior season. He wanted to play for BU and Coach Les, and knew he would have playing time right away. He had a fantastic senior season and would certainly have gotten many more D1 offers. You don't have to believe me, just ask anyone familiar with Illinois basketball. Better yet, Sam's dad is at every game, ask him.
 
Nothing against Tony B because he was a great guy, but the first season he was gone the Braves went 32-3. Give Dick V a little credit.
Chico lets get real. You and I could have won 30 that year with JL,HH, Massive Mike etc. Anyone who knows BU BB knows TB was the X and O man and Tricky Dick was a Great recruiter. Maybe a little on the S- - -y side. Those sure were the good old days JL said he wanted to bring back.
 
Its plane to see why no DII or DIII teams offered SM JL was his only opportunity and JL has no clue. Last year in St Louis EM totally shut down Dillard and JL kept him on the bench and let SIU exploit SM, what gives. I'm no coach but daaah. I want to win not let my buddies kid get me beat.
Not sure I understand your first half of this post. SM was definately a D-1 recruit. He has been a big plus for our program but I do agree he's going through some tough times right now. He really struggles guarding quicker players and it has cost us numerous times this season. Last night was a good example and I also think EM should have seen alot more minutes against Dillard. Dillard ate Sammy up and EM did a nice job on him when he was in the game. I said in another post EM can'tthrow the ball in the ocean but he can guard you and rebound. Right now SM is not doing any of the three but when the game is on the line (last couple of minutes ) i'll take SM anytime. Go Braves lets turn this around.
 
SM is a D-1 talent, plain and simple. He is going through a tough spot here, may be still injured, may be playing out of his comfort zone...but he is a D-1 talent.
That said, he is struggling and should not have been in the game at the end, IMO.
I do agree that coaches at times have players they rely on heavily and tend to lean on them, some times to a fault. That is when a top assistant would step in and point out the guy needs to sit.
I know many are also down on EM because of his lack of scoring. IMO the pg does not have to score. He can just run the offense and make sure the right guy gets the ball and play tough D. EM can do that and right now would be my pick to get the majority of minutes at point and at crunch time.
 
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