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Patrick O'Bryant

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mike radigan

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played 6 minutes in last night's win over the Pistons. He was two of three from the field for 4 points, committed one turnover, and had one board.
 
I don't think he looked very good. It's year 3 for POB, sooner or later it's either going to click or it isn't. Oh well. Johnny's Italian Steakhouse will always be waiting!
 
No, each team can have 12 players active, and up to 3 inactive. The Celts sent JR Giddens to the D-League, so I think they now have 2 players on inactive, plus their 12 active players.
 
I watch him get an offensive rebound then proceed to make a slow soft move into a fade away jumper that got stuffed immediately. How a 7'0 get rejected on a fade away is beyond me.
 
bluedevils1 said:
Got some garbage time today in a blowout of the Kings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2008122823

The good:

5 Pts on 2-2 shooting, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist in 6 minutes.

The bad:

4 fouls, 3 turnovers in 6 minutes.
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I can't figure out the NBA - Will Perdue was never any good but stuck with the Bulls for what felt like forever and got pretty regular playing time. POB is a much better player and athlete and does put numbers (neg & pos) on the stat sheet whenever he gets regular playing time. I'm not sure why (because I've always heard he was a very amiable person) but he seems to rub coaches the wrong way.
 
It is fustrating. (much like watching AT on BU)
POB seems to become a victim of his own "potential"
Sometimes he seems to produce at a near all-star level, but much of the time his performance drops down. I guess most NBA coaches want the consistancy more than potential on the floor. I'ms also guessing that Will Perdue did not get paid (initially) like POB's lotto pick.
 
ph said:
It is fustrating. (much like watching AT on BU)
POB seems to become a victim of his own "potential"
Sometimes he seems to produce at a near all-star level, but much of the time his performance drops down. I guess most NBA coaches want the consistancy more than potential on the floor. I'ms also guessing that Will Perdue did not get paid (initially) like POB's lotto pick.
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He was the 11th pick in the 1988 NBA Draft (lottery), but I don't know about the pay.
 
No question POB is #14 or #15 on their roster right now, and the Celtics seem determined to win another championship, and have a lot of money to spend. So if they feel they can improve by signing a veteran post player, they will. There is talk of coaxing PJ Brown out of retirement (he played on the 2007-2008 championship team). Patrick's contract for this year is guaranteed, so he'll get his money, but I am sure he wants to stick with the team.
 
romar said:
I can't figure out the NBA - Will Perdue was never any good but stuck with the Bulls for what felt like forever and got pretty regular playing time. POB is a much better player and athlete and does put numbers (neg & pos) on the stat sheet whenever he gets regular playing time. I'm not sure why (because I've always heard he was a very amiable person) but he seems to rub coaches the wrong way.
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I am not sure how you can say that POB is a better player the Will Perdue. Will Perdue was the SEC player of the year in 88, I dont beleive POB was player of the year anywhere ever. They both were 11th picks overall.

Perdue won 4 NBA championships. Until POB does anything in the NBA, sorry you can not even compare the two because Perdue did it for 13 years and even if his numbers are not great they are better then POB's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Perdue
 
POB's problem is simply staying out of foul trouble. Ever since he got in the NBA he has averaged a foul about every 3 to 4 minutes. He seems to do great in the D-league, perhaps a trip to play in Europe will help him.

Jason
 
houstontxbrave said:
I am not sure how you can say that POB is a better player the Will Perdue. Will Perdue was the SEC player of the year in 88, I dont beleive POB was player of the year anywhere ever. They both were 11th picks overall.

Perdue won 4 NBA championships. Until POB does anything in the NBA, sorry you can not even compare the two because Perdue did it for 13 years and even if his numbers are not great they are better then POB's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Perdue
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Agreed. Perdue was better and will always be better until POB proves it. Being more athletic (running and jumping better) means very little if you don't know how to play the game or don't show a passion for the game. POB has made his money--more than my 9 years of college will ever make, but he is becoming a complete waste of size and talent. He is a classic underachiever.
 
georgethedog said:
He is a classic underachiever.
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This is an extreme hyperbole. Patrick has done what less than 1/10 of 1% of college players are able to do. He has used his physical skills to make it to the NBA. He was a lottery pick, and the odds of any college basketball player achieving that are more like 1/100th of 1%. He is earning millions, not to mention his success in college. Though he hasn't stood out in the NBA yet, I would say he is far from an underachiever.
How many of us can say we are in the top .01% of our field?

By the way, I have watched Aaron Gray as a part-time starter and regular center for the Bulls. I wonder how more success POB would have had if he had the chance, like Gray is getting. I think most of will agree POB would be better than Gray if given the opportunity. A lot of a players' success in the NBA is based on getting an chance to play, which POB hasn't had.
 
Da Coach said:
This is an extreme hyperbole. Patrick has done what less than 1/10 of 1% of college players are able to do. He has used his physical skills to make it to the NBA. He was a lottery pick, and the odds of any college basketball player achieving that are more like 1/100th of 1%. He is earning millions, not to mention his success in college. Though he hasn't stood out in the NBA yet, I would say he is far from an underachiever.
How many of us can say we are in the top .01% of our field?

By the way, I have watched Aaron Gray as a part-time starter and regular center for the Bulls. I wonder how more success POB would have had if he had the chance, like Gray is getting. I think most of will agree POB would be better than Gray if given the opportunity. A lot of a players' success in the NBA is based on getting an chance to play, which POB hasn't had.
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POB is 7 feet tall with a wingspan of well over 7 feet (I think 7'7") and that has given him his opportunity. What is the percentage of college players over 7 feet tall with his wingspan? When you have that number, you can refigure your statistics, otherwise your statistics are invalid from a scientific point of view and virtually meaningless as a way to compare POB with other college players.
 
I really wish the Bulls would have given POB a shot....I know he would be getting playing time...they are about the weakest team in the nba @ center and this would be the best case senario for playing time! The celts are not the place for POB to get on the floor, they are in posistion to repeat as champs IMO and will do whats needed to do that...the Bulls are in permanent rebuilding since MJ left and that will conmtinue.....on the brighter side just maybe POB can get a ring!
 
georgethedog said:
Agreed. Perdue was better and will always be better until POB proves it. Being more athletic (running and jumping better) means very little if you don't know how to play the game or don't show a passion for the game. POB has made his money--more than my 9 years of college will ever make, but he is becoming a complete waste of size and talent. He is a classic underachiever.
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Gentlemen this is why I like message boards, because we can agree to disagree. My take is that Perdue was awful! I don't care how many rings he has or what he did in College! Who doesn't think POB had the potential & talent to be MVC player of the year if he'd have played to his Sr year? Anyway, I was talking about once these players get to the NBA. And if I remember correctly for at least one of Perdue's championship rings the Bulls didn't even see fit to activate him. I used him as a example because he was a player who if he were 3 inches shorter at 6'9" would have never graced an NBA court. I would estimate I watched over 80% of his games throughout his career with the Bulls and have no qualms saying he sucked. Even in wikipedia they label him as an underacheiver and have a quote of MJ dissing him. My point was that similar to Gray's situation, given the PT, POB would have put up better numbers. Actually, I'm not anal enough to calculate production per minute of play, but I'd bet that POB's numbers are better. Like Big Mike said, POB may walk away with a ring this year as well, so I guess using others logic, even if he doesn't contribute to that ring in any way he will be a better player next year for having it on his finger?
 
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