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BradleyBrave said:
Why does he deserve to lose his job?
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Because he is a liar, hyporcrite, and not a role model for young men.

I would be very curious to know how many times a situation has come up, that he gave advise on and it has turned out his advise was exactly contradictory to what he has done in his own life.

Tell me why he should keep his job?
 
Why does he deserve to lose his job?
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Larry Eustachy lost his at Iowa State, and there are other examples of coaches losing their jobs over less serious "indiscretions". (I love the word- indiscretion - that Pitino uses to describe his actions!)

Like all coaches, as well as players' scholarship agreements, they have a "morals" clause in their contracts that allow their employer to terminate the contract "for cause", without having the obligation to continue to pay him if they want.

Recall the situation with Marv Albert and his "indiscretions" with a hooker. NBC dropped him and terminated his contract.


BTW- I am not saying he should lose his job, I am just saying that it is the employer's decision, and some have fired coaches for indiscretions that have not gone as far as Pitino's.
 
houstontxbrave said:
Because he is a liar, hyporcrite, and not a role model for young men.

I would be very curious to know how many times a situation has come up, that he gave advise on and it has turned out his advise was exactly contradictory to what he has done in his own life.

Tell me why he should keep his job?
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College coaching is full of liars and hypocrites. Are coaches really supposed to be role models? Just like athletes shouldn't be role models, neither should coaches. They live quite similar lifestyles. I think coaches are there to make sure the kids maximize their ability and get an education (which is a stretch). I can't recall one player saying that they went to college because they wanted to be like or emulate the coach. If parents are looking for a DI basketball coach to raise their kids or teach them right from wrong, then quite frankly they've failed as parents.

So, he should keep his job because he didn't break any laws and didn't commit any crimes. He might not do too well in a divorce settlement but adultery isn't against the law, and neither are abortions. I don't know the language of his contract, but I doubt he broke any clauses in his contract either.

Sounds like the university is looking at it the same way, at least for now.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-pitinoextortion&prov=ap&type=lgns

And here's an article that touches on a lot of things houston has been saying. A good read.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...B?slug=aw-pitinonba081309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
 
BradleyBrave said:
College coaching is full of liars and hypocrites. Are coaches really supposed to be role models? Just like athletes shouldn't be role models, neither should coaches. They live quite similar lifestyles. I think coaches are there to make sure the kids maximize their ability and get an education (which is a stretch). I can't recall one player saying that they went to college because they wanted to be like or emulate the coach. If parents are looking for a DI basketball coach to raise their kids or teach them right from wrong, then quite frankly they've failed as parents.

So, he should keep his job because he didn't break any laws and didn't commit any crimes. He might not do too well in a divorce settlement but adultery isn't against the law, and neither are abortions. I don't know the language of his contract, but I doubt he broke any clauses in his contract either.

Sounds like the university is looking at it the same way, at least for now.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-pitinoextortion&prov=ap&type=lgns

And here's an article that touches on a lot of things houston has been saying. A good read.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...B?slug=aw-pitinonba081309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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This is my last post about this because the more I think about it well it really is a waste of time, but just to nitpick a bit, but isnt having sexual relations in a public place breaking the law?

And you really never hear a player say they went to a school because of a coach or who he is or what he stands for or what type of a guildence can give? Sales is what recruiting is and sales is pursuasion and often persuasion is selling yourself and who you are, the school and the program often are second its the person selling and who he/she is what often hooks and signs a player.
 
My last post, too, I hope.

But I think the Louisville President's response to this is a lot more about wanting a winning baskletball program than holding his coach to a high standard of ethics and behavior.
 
houstontxbrave said:
This is my last post about this because the more I think about it well it really is a waste of time, but just to nitpick a bit, but isnt having sexual relations in a public place breaking the law?
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Actually if it was in the back room as we've heard it was, I don't think it is illegal. Yes, we're nitpicking at this point. I'll stop. As the great Ron Burgundy once said "Agree to disagree". :)
 
BradleyBrave said:
Actually if it was in the back room as we've heard it was, I don't think it is illegal. Yes, we're nitpicking at this point. I'll stop. As the great Ron Burgundy once said "Agree to disagree". :)
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there was the moral clause in his contract that gives the university the right to let him go...it doesn't demand it.

People in the area know he's not been faithful for years...
 
houstontxbrave said:
Prediction, Pitino resigns by the end of the month.

On a personal note I read his book recently and I feel he is a complete hypocrite and I feel like I wasted part of my life and money on him. He deserves all he gets after all this is completed. Pitino is a disgusting person.
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I read his book also and thought it was good. My son-in-law worked with the U of l sports teams and set up Pintino's radio shows for the last two seasons so RP autographed it for me. I'm let down as well. The principles are still good though.
 
lefty said:
there was the moral clause in his contract that gives the university the right to let him go...it doesn't demand it.

People in the area know he's not been faithful for years...
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And that's the case with several big-time DI coaches, including one that was waltzing the sidelines a few years back in Cham-bana. ;)
 
Da Coach said:
Like all coaches, as well as players' scholarship agreements, they have a "morals" clause in their contracts that allow their employer to terminate the contract "for cause", without having the obligation to continue to pay him if they want.
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Here is an article that outlines Pitino's moral's clause.
Interestingly, this writer contrasts Rick Pitino to former BU AD Ken Kavanagh.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/aug/15/david-moulton-there-isnt-room-college-sports-anyon/
 
wow-- that column amounts to a very loud, broad endorsement of Ken Kavanagh, and almost to the point where he singles out Ken as the absolute antithesis of Pitino.
 
Da Coach said:
Here is an article that outlines Pitino's moral's clause.
Interestingly, this writer contrasts Rick Pitino to former BU AD Ken Kavanagh.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/aug/15/david-moulton-there-isnt-room-college-sports-anyon/
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What does KK have to do with Pitino's situation. To say KK would have fired him is crazy. Given the fact that the Prez was behind the decision....I doubt KK would have done any different than the Louisville AD...Pitino has a lot more power down there for an AD to let him go on his own...
 
BradleyBrave said:
Ken Kavanagh would never fire Rick Pitino.
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If RP was at Bradley under KK, he would have been "bigger" than everyone else, so probably you are right. But if any other coach did what RP did, and KK was the AD, I believe he would stand up for decency, honor, and respect and fire him.
 
RP, like a lot of multimillionaire superstars in whatever profession (sports, pop music, politics), become sociopathic and actually believe they are bigger and better than everyone else, and don't really have to follow the rules, because the rules only apply to the little people.
Things like getting serviced while in the Oval Office, jetting to Argentina for an adulterous fling, having a restaurant owner give you the keys so you can have some fun without the wifey's knowledge, and spending $160,000 a month so you can have your own private doctor to give you intravenous dope are all pretty unbelievable to most of us.
But I guess we're all getting used to the idea that these people really do morph into something we can barely imagine...and develop a considerably different standard.



In fact this whole thing is so weird, that I kinda think it's a secret plot between Pitino, Sypher, and her hubby
to act out such a bizarre scenario that it'll sell great in books and on the big screen, just like Fatal Attraction.
They'll be rich & famous forever with the royalties!



Anyway, it makes you wonder who likes restaurants more, Pitino or Rick Majerus (for different reasons of course)
http://www.porcinilouisville.com/info.html
http://www.porcinilouisville.com/private.html
 
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