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Buesch N Chips said:
Yep, DV did with JJ and Hersey. And he also broke the rules.

Jim Les may deserve to be fired, but not doing what has never been done should not be the reason.

From another thread...

Record Without an NBA Player (JJ, HH, AP, POB)
Versace 31-26
Albeck 32-54
Molinari 92-113
Les 113-105

That stat does not tell the whole story of their tenure, obviously, but it is valid nonetheless.
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BC...we are stretching this far?...records without an NBA player....

how about records with coaches over 6 feet?

records with players who names start with the letter J?

they are absolutely meaningless
 
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squirrelgotdead said:
You can look at a lot of situations...one could also argue both AP and POB were not NBA-ready while collegiates...

You can also look at BU coaches hired who had DI experience vs. those who were hired with none, and you get some interesting numbers...


With DI experience:
-17 years at Bradley
-2 MVC Championships (not in MVC Forddy's last 3 years)
-3 NCAA appearances
-2 National Championship game appearances
-5 2nd place finishes
-1 NIT Championship appearance

Without DI experience:
-45 combined years
-5 MVC Championships
-5 NCAA Appearances
-4 NIT Championships & 1 more Final appearance
-7 2nd place finishes


So in theory (and that's all it is) you are basically looking at a disparity of:

-1 MVC title every 7 years vs. every 9
-1 NCAA appearance every 5.6 years vs. every 9
-2nd place finishes every 2.8 years vs. every 6.4
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Sure. There are enough stats to substantiate every position from criminal to saint. Those in charge need to decide what they consider their priorities in terms of the qualities of a coach, and evaluate JL on those, and decide if they can find someone better.
 
lefty said:
BC...we are stretching this far?...records without an NBA player....

how about records with coaches over 6 feet?

records with players who names start with the letter J?

they are absolutely meaningless
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Sure. There are enough stats to substantiate every position from criminal to saint. Those in charge need to decide what they consider their priorities in terms of the qualities of a coach, and evaluate JL on those, and decide if they can find someone better.
 
Buesch N Chips said:
Yep, DV did with JJ and Hersey. And he also broke the rules.

Jim Les may deserve to be fired, but not doing what has never been done should not be the reason.

From another thread...

Record Without an NBA Player (JJ, HH, AP, POB)
Versace 31-26
Albeck 32-54
Molinari 92-113
Les 113-105

That stat does not tell the whole story of their tenure, obviously, but it is valid nonetheless.
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Isn't recruiting part of the equation? About the only person the 'non-NBA player' argument works for is Stan. Every other guy recruited their NBA player, including Les (see, I am giving him credit). So it counts. One could make a strong argument that recruiting, and not X's and O's, is a bigger reason why we're at where we are at right now.

And I would be careful on the 'cheating' accusations with Dickie V. There have been NCAA infractions in this regime as well. This time though, we didn't lie about them.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Isn't recruiting part of the equation?
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Absolutely. My point is that if you are trying to evaluate a coach, in general, it might be valid to look at the times where a player will not just flat out win a game for you, regardless of game plan. It is an attempt to look at how the coach does with your typical MVC player types.
 
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