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Post game comments- Wichita State 80 - BU 73
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CrouchsCrusaders
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The coaching staff does not have this team ready to play defense and until they decide to put someone in or recruit a player that can rebound we are in a world of hurt; this is embarrassing to be losing to mediocre teams at best; we stayed with the same starting lineup and got the same results; it is time for a change and we may as well start getting Egolf ready for the future as this season has gone down so fast that there is little hope left ; who is to blame when a team is picked to finish 2nd in the conference and look as if they may end up 9th.
Note to staff.. PLEASE recruit someone who isnt a guard,isnt a soft inside player and is at least 6'6.
It would be greatly appreciated.
The thing that is most frustrating to me about this game is that we had built a good lead with 5 or 6 minutes to go in the first half, and Marshall pulled all 5 starters to send them a message...
He put in 5 guys that were absolutely horrible and played them for a 4 or 5 minute stretch...and our starting lineup playing against essentially their JV squad couldn't do anything, and ended up losing 2 points off of our lead, I believe. With that horrid lineup that Marshall threw out there for the last 5 minutes of the first half, BU should have extended the lead to 18 points by halftime, if they had one ounce of toughness or killer instinct...
Here is who Marshall put in to send a message to his starters with 5 or 6 minutes left in the first half...and at least 4 of these 5 guys played a 4 or 5 minute stretch at the end of the first half.
Graham Hatch - 0 pts. scored all season...13 total minutes played all season before tonight
Bret Michael - 0 pts. scored all season...6 total minutes played all season before tonight.
Lance Harris - 0 pts. scored all season...8 total minutes played all season before tonight
Aaron Ellis - averaged 1.4 points per game before tonight
JT Durley - averaged 8.4 points per game before tonight
That was the 5 man lineup that our starters were matched up against at the end of the first half...They should have destroyed that lineup and forced Marshall to bring his starters back...but it didn't happen...we couldn't even overmatch that collection of deep bench players...that is an embarrassment...
It would be the equivalent of Les getting angry at our starters and bringing in Phillips, Lavin, Austin, Egolf, and Cole-Scott to play out the last 5 minutes of the first half on the road at Creighton....You think that the Bluejays wouldn't run off about 20 points in 5 minutes against that lineup?
But we could do nothing...absolutely nothing against those scrubs...Marshall handed us a gift...we could (and should) have run that lineup off the court and built a 20 point lead by half...instead, we wilted.
He put in 5 guys that were absolutely horrible and played them for a 4 or 5 minute stretch...and our starting lineup playing against essentially their JV squad couldn't do anything, and ended up losing 2 points off of our lead, I believe. With that horrid lineup that Marshall threw out there for the last 5 minutes of the first half, BU should have extended the lead to 18 points by halftime, if they had one ounce of toughness or killer instinct...
Here is who Marshall put in to send a message to his starters with 5 or 6 minutes left in the first half...and at least 4 of these 5 guys played a 4 or 5 minute stretch at the end of the first half.
Graham Hatch - 0 pts. scored all season...13 total minutes played all season before tonight
Bret Michael - 0 pts. scored all season...6 total minutes played all season before tonight.
Lance Harris - 0 pts. scored all season...8 total minutes played all season before tonight
Aaron Ellis - averaged 1.4 points per game before tonight
JT Durley - averaged 8.4 points per game before tonight
That was the 5 man lineup that our starters were matched up against at the end of the first half...They should have destroyed that lineup and forced Marshall to bring his starters back...but it didn't happen...we couldn't even overmatch that collection of deep bench players...that is an embarrassment...
It would be the equivalent of Les getting angry at our starters and bringing in Phillips, Lavin, Austin, Egolf, and Cole-Scott to play out the last 5 minutes of the first half on the road at Creighton....You think that the Bluejays wouldn't run off about 20 points in 5 minutes against that lineup?
But we could do nothing...absolutely nothing against those scrubs...Marshall handed us a gift...we could (and should) have run that lineup off the court and built a 20 point lead by half...instead, we wilted.
BUBraves2006
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Howdy,
Just finished a long drive back to Chicago after another loss ...
I think many of things that have been said are valid, but when you have so many players that do have at least a little skill, things have to fall on the coaching staff.
I'm still trying to figure out if all of the new players (except for Maniscalco) aren't playing well or at all because A. Coach Les & staff overestimated their abilities or B. Coach Les & staff isn't getting the most out of talented players.
The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, closer to B., as you see flashes of how good each player can be. We've all seen how Austin aggressively pounds the glass, Cole-Scott's quickness, Egolf's raw overall talent in different facets, Collins inside presence ... etc. These aren't bad players but obviously Coach isn't getting the most out of their abilities (whether you want to call those limited or limitless).
I'm willing to dismiss the first part of the second half as every team goes through rough parts of the game. But the absolute dagger tonight was Coach's decision to go to a 2-3 zone. Our players, for whatever reason don't understand how to properly run it, including (and most importantly) ... ROTATION! This kind of stuff can be taught but it isn't there. We ran it for approximately 3-5 possessions and Wichita scored on nearly every one (two wide open threes and an easy dunk). If you know something isn't working, and it's been subpar all season, why would you experiment with something like that when you're going through a tough stretch in the game.
Coach Les really needs to work on his in-game coaching or surround himself with better guys who can manage a game. For as much as he improved over the past few years (maybe it was Chuck B., who knows), he has regressed this year and hasn't adapted to the personnel we have.
Long way to go ...
Just finished a long drive back to Chicago after another loss ...
I think many of things that have been said are valid, but when you have so many players that do have at least a little skill, things have to fall on the coaching staff.
I'm still trying to figure out if all of the new players (except for Maniscalco) aren't playing well or at all because A. Coach Les & staff overestimated their abilities or B. Coach Les & staff isn't getting the most out of talented players.
The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, closer to B., as you see flashes of how good each player can be. We've all seen how Austin aggressively pounds the glass, Cole-Scott's quickness, Egolf's raw overall talent in different facets, Collins inside presence ... etc. These aren't bad players but obviously Coach isn't getting the most out of their abilities (whether you want to call those limited or limitless).
I'm willing to dismiss the first part of the second half as every team goes through rough parts of the game. But the absolute dagger tonight was Coach's decision to go to a 2-3 zone. Our players, for whatever reason don't understand how to properly run it, including (and most importantly) ... ROTATION! This kind of stuff can be taught but it isn't there. We ran it for approximately 3-5 possessions and Wichita scored on nearly every one (two wide open threes and an easy dunk). If you know something isn't working, and it's been subpar all season, why would you experiment with something like that when you're going through a tough stretch in the game.
Coach Les really needs to work on his in-game coaching or surround himself with better guys who can manage a game. For as much as he improved over the past few years (maybe it was Chuck B., who knows), he has regressed this year and hasn't adapted to the personnel we have.
Long way to go ...
JasonAtBradley
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ARGH! I can't believe that Bradley lost another game to a weak team AT HOME! I'm glad that I was at the casinos in Las Vegas (for my 21st birthday) during the game. Losing $7 in an hour is a lot less painful then watching the Braves drop another one at home (especially with a halftime lead). 
I still can't believe that David Collins and Rashad Austin aren't getting more minutes. When there is no rebounding being done and Salley is getting more fouls than points, there needs to be a consistent inside presence.
I still can't believe that David Collins and Rashad Austin aren't getting more minutes. When there is no rebounding being done and Salley is getting more fouls than points, there needs to be a consistent inside presence.
BradleyBrave
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PJ Star articles--
http://pjstar.com/stories/010608/BRA_BFDJ5NSR.077.php
http://pjstar.com/stories/010608/KIR_BFDJ5Q7U.077.php
story from Kansas--
http://www.kansas.com/sports/updates/story/273149.html
http://pjstar.com/stories/010608/BRA_BFDJ5NSR.077.php
http://pjstar.com/stories/010608/KIR_BFDJ5Q7U.077.php
story from Kansas--
http://www.kansas.com/sports/updates/story/273149.html
CLBravesfan
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Same old same old, for the past 6 games, no defense, no rebounding, too many turnovers, no depth, no strength, and poor shooting. If we keep playing this way I can't see us winning any games in the MVC. Who can we beat? WSU is at the bottom and we could not beat them at home, Evansville and Ind. ST have shown some promise, we have zero at this point.
tornado
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In addition to those stories, Dave Reynolds has his
"Braves Report Card"
He gives F's to the Frontcourt, Bench, and Overall, and he gives a D to the Backcourt.
Here is what he says about BU's backcourt:
"Jeremy Crouch, Andrew Warren and Sam Maniscalco scored 49 points among them, dished out 19 assists and made 8 steals.
But they also missed 32 shots and were part of the defensive breakdown."
Wow, pretty harsh, but I guess he is entitled to his opinion.
I know they didn't play well, but they were in the game, and here's where I'd take issue....
His fatcs are not correct!!!
From the official box score-- the entire team missed 36 shots, and according to the box score, Sam, Jeremy, and Andrew were a total of 14-for-40, or a grand total of 26 missed shots.
And most of the points were scored close to the basket, and BU got beat in the paint 38-14.
I don't think you can hand much blame to our guards. I think they did most everything you can ask of them given they are without their leader and senior point guard.
What we need is more help in the paint.
"Braves Report Card"
He gives F's to the Frontcourt, Bench, and Overall, and he gives a D to the Backcourt.
Here is what he says about BU's backcourt:
"Jeremy Crouch, Andrew Warren and Sam Maniscalco scored 49 points among them, dished out 19 assists and made 8 steals.
But they also missed 32 shots and were part of the defensive breakdown."
Wow, pretty harsh, but I guess he is entitled to his opinion.
I know they didn't play well, but they were in the game, and here's where I'd take issue....
His fatcs are not correct!!!
From the official box score-- the entire team missed 36 shots, and according to the box score, Sam, Jeremy, and Andrew were a total of 14-for-40, or a grand total of 26 missed shots.
And most of the points were scored close to the basket, and BU got beat in the paint 38-14.
I don't think you can hand much blame to our guards. I think they did most everything you can ask of them given they are without their leader and senior point guard.
What we need is more help in the paint.
mike radigan
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Getting back to the rebounding, one thing I don??™t get is losing boards when the opponent misses a free throw. IMHO we are blocking out wrong. We are trying to push the opposing player backwards, but with the new rule where you start farther from the hoop, it is not necessary. As it is now, when you push backwards it allows the bad guys to either spin around you or use a football like swim move to get position. In reality all you need to do is stay between them and the basket. Don??™t push backwards, just maintain your place between them and the hoop. My two cents worth.
